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Posted: 14 years ago
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The bond that is between mother and son ..........especially the one shown in PR is PARASITICAL ! OMG ! Its EXPLOITATIVE this kind of financial dependency ! The mother son bond ain't an eternal debt , times have changed ! Children gotta move out and live THEIR LIFE !


I think of your entire commentary I found this statement very disturbing. to think that modern educated people have this mindset is very distrubing.

a parent child relationship is unique. it cannot be equated with any other relationship and should not be compromised for any other relationship. each relationship influences a person's personality and behaviour and to ignore that relationship is like abandoning that facet of your personality. credit for positive virtues and strenghts are naturally attributed to genes and upbringing not to inlaw association or spousal personality.

a mother is not obligated to bring her child in this world. not then not now.
varsha - an educated woman living securely with a devoted husband in the lap of luxury - chose to abort her child.

could savita not have done the same to manav? of course she could, there would have been no ultrasound at the time to confirm it was a boy, she could well have killed it thinking it to be a girl. she - an uneducated woman with a husband a drunk, living hand to mouth with barely any support in a big city and no skills to support her. would anyone have criticized her for aborting that child? I don't think so. decisions were very pragmatic then and seem to be the same now.

yet she chose to have him inspite of her vulnerable lifestyle.

if she is is his stepmom, she chose to keep him inspite of her vulnerable lifestlye rather than force his drunk father to give him up for adoption.

one never knows how a child will turn out - it is a risk parents take out of parental love - the child could be sickly, a drug addict, a mentally challenged person, etc, etc. no matter what the parents will be by his side. yet spouses have been known to abandon in time of hardships.

who fed him, educated him and nutured him as an infant/ child? was he self-sustaining? that is a foolish thought.

unabandoned children have an eternal debt to their parents - one that is borne out of their love , support and very presence in their lives - a parent is a child's support structure in their youth and a child is the parent's support structure in their old age. it is the cycle of life. questioning this questioning the very foundations of civilized society.

and thethought that supporting one's parent financially and otherwise can only happen in a joint family setup is equally absurd. so are we to believe that NRI's abandon their parents and do not financially or emotionally support them? there is a saying in Konkani, kam zhallo voiz melo - I am no longer sick so doctor be damned. the attitude of people with no loyalty or graitutde for blessings of associations received.


Edited by --Hope-- - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hope . Both your posts r really beautiful , I wish they had been independent posts by themselves .But no probs , we can discuss here too . . What disturbed me was the mindset of simply flicking the parents aside . . There r thousands of families .lower income families where the uneducated mothers r dependent on their offsprings for income .........as their husbands r sick , or bedridden or dead or alcoholics like Damodar . This financial dependency does not make them parasitical . . This bond doesnt make them exploitative . Savita has done her fair share of mistakes but she loves Manav , nothing can obliterate the fact . She is really NOT bound to love Archana . Today when Archana is indifferent to her and dancing only after her maayka , people say Good for Archana , she is not bound to love this selfish abusive woman .Good for Archu .Well I wish to point out , it always was the same with Savita too ..........she wasn;t bound or obliged to LOVE Archana ...ever .Especially not when she suffered such stark , real losses in her life . Coz all her losses mind u , stemmed back to that one house .......The Karanjkars . And we all see how much this girl Archu LOVES them unconditionally . Savita is really not obliged to lOVE the Karanjkars .They havbe done NOTHING for her , infact they have hurt her BAD , real BAD .
But Manav she DOES love . That love is unconditional and has no beginning and no end . She loves him in her own crass , dysfunctional way . It needn't be in a perfect mould ..........a palatable dish for all to see . But its there . All along its Mera Manav Mera Manav . Manav was her pride . Well her pride was taken away and she is stripped of her dignity today when she is crawling back to him to welcome THE PACKET ...........him and Archana . Coz a lot of SHABAASI was given to Manav for insisting on ACCEPT ME AND MY WIFE AS THE PACKAGE DEAL OR FORGET ME ALTOGETHER .
I wish Manav the best and I admire his current loyalty to Archana but I do wish he had not rubbed the packet deal so much on his mOm's face .I do wish he had been more tactful . No one asked him to go back without Archana but constantly telling ur mom we r a package deal is kind of HURTING her . The wife and husband r undoubtedly a packet but what about the packet that God ordained ..........the string wrapping this packet being the umblical cord ? This packet came far far earlier than the marraige packet . The marraige packet can be untied with DIVORCE .........infact we dID see a divorce between Archana and Manav ...........but there is no divorce between A mother and son ......EVER . Even if they stay apart and dont talk to each other for ages , they die UNDIVORCED . God doesn't recognise that divorce , and its not granted in any court in the world . So before talking of packages one shud look at THIS package FIRST .
And Im so sorry but I don't believe for a moment that the ETERNAL KARZ thing is BULL . I DO believe in the ETERNAL KARZ that exists between Mother and son bond .......the child should be eternally obliged to his biological parents for coming in the world , yes , I firmly and unashamedly believe in this antiquated sentiment . Look what Varsha did ..she aborted the child . Our moms cud have done the same . The labour they went thru is no laughing matter ..........each time a woman gives birth to a child , its a second birth for HER TOO as she runs the risk of losing her life while giving someone life . Our hindu scriptures teach us MATRU DEVO BHAVA ... it doesn't mean MOTHER IS GOD ...........It strongly suggests that the bond between a mother and child is spiritual .They are not stupid u know . There always was substance to everything our ancestors taught us .
Manav cud have very well done his duties without bringing Archana in the picture . He didnt .He Didnt have aNY time for his mother after his marraige and viewers took glee in it .
I look down heavily on romance done on the dead body of responsibility .
Questions were asked ..Is Manav not then entitled to pursuing his own happiness ?
Answer [ Mine] You re damn right he Isn't . Coz he aint a normal guy , he is unique and was given tons of responsibility by the Bappa he visits on Sankashti days . He was Manav Deshmukh ..he wasn't Sachin .
Who says Savita is GOOD ? Not me . I only say she loves Manav . And I also say providing her with food and medical aid lifelong is Manavs responsibility tll the end . Thats the way it is and always will be .
Saying that Savita is now sucking upto Manav coz he is coming into money is another favorite and deliberate puncline . I disagree coz I ALWAYS saw her loving him , even when he was poor . Infact the Karanjkars r now gathered around him when their own horses have flagged down and they r losing ............the latest is VInod who is now gonna joing the CHOR in his business . Savita didnt even KNOW he was starting a business , her firsst reaction was that of WORRY about the intricacies of financial dealings that her simple child may not be able to handle . Hence her questions to Damodar .
I dont see Savita SUCKING upto him .I do see her MISSING him .But yes , I do see Manav SUCKING upto the Karanjkars , especially Varsha . That i DO see .
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Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

samarth the Dharmesh track is having no meaning coz Vaishali will eventually go back . The two wives will come to a pathetic understanding of sorts and Dharmesh will go scot free . The only point of interest is If Satish will dissolve his partnership due to this personal feud ........coz in PR personal and professional problems overlap . I dont see the point of Satish dissolving the partnership if Vaishu goes back ........coz that will be ADDED loss to Vaishu , the only bright thing to look forward if she goes back is her rich lifestyle although husband is a creep . And anyway if Vaishu is going back , why wud Satish be miffed enuf to dissolve partnership ............it serves no purpose .

Right as right…it sucks… sloppiness everywhere…Every third day, another tacky track while mess of the previous one was yet to be cleared … loose ends and no logical resolutions, no rhyme or coherence only clumsiness as a constant…it truly sucks.

Dharmesh as one exponent of this 'talent' is simply loathsome. The child like innocence on a ponderous frame and an offending character is looking deformed…perhaps pointing to another unsatisfying reconciliation or even more hugely unsatisfying exoneration- la affair Madhuri, with some saintly assumed responsibility by an innocent Dhammu in the past?!😕…The grotesque of his script has worn out to tiredness, where one feels inured… Dharmesh- Madhuri-Vaishali…whatever.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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No commentary today? :(.. Your awesome commentary brings life to the already boring filler episodes. But I guess, today's was too lack lusture for you to waste your time commenting. I am a new member here, but I have been following your commentary since a few months. so, thumbs up to your commentary... keep it going.
you should consider writing a book .
U think so ? That has made my day coz its my dream .Thanks .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Sorry to butt in. just wanted to say. nice job Kools and Hope 👍🏼 agree with most of what you have said. Hope, you should start posting more often...i miss reading your post. 😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
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well said kool and hope..savita has been one person who stands up for manav no matter what her personal issues wid him are..i do not see anybody else do it,bar archu at times..and in archu's case her loyalties get divided btwn her family and him..am not judging,its fine..they are her family,she loves thm..bt how come manav on the other hand tells his aai "its not ur business,stay out of it" everytime?y is it not her business to support him and the karanjkars' business to humiliate him whenever he is down?tht i dislike..and yes,no matter what,savita is his mother and no amt of change in personal life is going to change tht..how come manav dsnt seem to respect tht anymore?how come she dsnt get told tht her son is starting a business,in person?how come she dsnt get followed on the street to call her back wen she left his home widout even coming inside?how come she dsnt command the respect tht sulochana does,inspite of being unconditionally by her son's side at all times?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Great job Hopester & Kools....Hope we were missing your posts...Good to see u back..
Kool part of post about mother-son bonding especially "matru devo bhavah" touched me so much I had tears in my eyes...I totally agree with you...Savita is one person who has loved & defended ULM when ever K's have humilliated him or anyone else to that matter..
I am so sick of this show now...What the leads are doing, FBD, Varshu and now Vaishu even considering going back to FBD...
Ajit giving up his regular job to do thekadaari with ULM..WHile he is roaming around with his saalis and their husbands who is collecting the money? I never see ULM consistantly working...He is taking day off here and there and now this..Archu needs to zip her mouth...she spews all bad advice..Thank god I am off to India tmrw and possibly won't be watching this stupidity..Will miss you all...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Varshu, OMG have fun in India...make sure to eat lots of chaat. Have a safe and fun journey i will miss you.🤗
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Posted: 14 years ago
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one thing i dont understand .. I thought the CVs stalk the forum ..
There were so many posts made about how we would want to see dharmesh punished .. by stripping him of his wealth ...
What the hell is this ? Why on earth did they choose this bigamy route ? I only see vaishu's life in mess ... dharmu is going scot free ..
heck , the CVs have given him a brand new wife and a 10 year old son ..

EDIT : varshadi , hope u have a nice time .. :)
Edited by lunza - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000


I look down heavily on romance done on the dead body of responsibility .
Questions were asked ..Is Manav not then entitled to pursuing his own happiness ?
Answer [ Mine] You re damn right he Isn't . Coz he aint a normal guy , he is unique and was given tons of responsibility by the Bappa he visits on Sankashti days . He was Manav Deshmukh ..he wasn't Sachin .
Who says Savita is GOOD ? Not me . I only say she loves Manav . And I also say providing her with food and medical aid lifelong is Manavs responsibility tll the end . Thats the way it is and always will be .
Saying that Savita is now sucking upto Manav coz he is coming into money is another favorite and deliberate puncline . I disagree coz I ALWAYS saw her loving him , even when he was poor . Infact the Karanjkars r now gathered around him when their own horses have flagged down and they r losing ............the latest is VInod who is now gonna joing the CHOR in his business . Savita didnt even KNOW he was starting a business , her firsst reaction was that of WORRY about the intricacies of financial dealings that her simple child may not be able to handle . Hence her questions to Damodar .
I dont see Savita SUCKING upto him .I do see her MISSING him .But yes , I do see Manav SUCKING upto the Karanjkars , especially Varsha . That i DO see .

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Hope, Kools, both have you have some truly valuable thoughts. Loved the comments.
here is Kools portion, that caught my eye, wanted to add my two cents.

@blue: 100% agree with you. i even go a step further to say, parents happiness, their SUKH comes first.
i believe parents( maa and paa) make sacrifies for their kids, that No-one else can do. the inner willingness to do it, sacrifice something for your child, it tugs at my heart more than anything else.
the whole mindset of parents change when they bring a child to this world. NOW for them, SOMETHING other than themselves is important, beyond compare.
with that, when a child is of age and capable, should extend the SAME gesture to his/her parents. DUTY to YOUR parents is always first.
manav in that sense, is failing. savita demands his LOVE, nothing else. she has the right to do that as well.
manav should realise that , HIS mother WANTS his unconditional LOVE, same love, she gave him.
manav is sucking up to the K-klan, but some of that consideration to his mother, would have MADE her soo happy. thats the thing with moms. the simplest gestures please them ( i know, my mom is a sucker for that.😊)
manav DOESNT have to live with his parents. FINE. but DONT balatanly rub the K-Klan in front of savita. comparsion between moms is a BIG no-no.

there is a story: when lord shiv and his brother had to compete for a sole mango. Lord shiv chose to circle his parents as a gesture to say, they are my world and won the mango.
that story is ingrained in my head, and i have ALWAYS felt the same way. NOTHING comes before my parents. we have disagreements, fights BUT nothing COMES before my mom and dad.
i wish manav to do the same.

savita in ALL honesty has been there for MANAV, more times than i can count. she is NOT perfect in anyway, but she LOVES her son. i want her son to do the same.

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