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Posted: 14 years ago
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Ok guys am going to bed . . Varsha darling have a SAFE trip . Take good care of ur health and happy shopping for ur sons wedding .For weddings , Idia is the place to shop , for sarees and jewellery . . tiya darling I think the story is about Lord Shiva's son [ I don't think Lord Shiva has a brother 😊} ...........its Ganpati Bappa [ the one Manav worships] and his brother Kartikeya who had the bet . While Kartikeya circled the whole world , Bappa circled his mother and father who were seated in meditation . Thereby telling the world that parents ARE THE WORLD . The father was Lod Shiva and the mother was Parvati . . Ok guys hitting the bed . Good night .
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Arre where is shraddhu nowdays . the new promos disgust me
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Posted: 14 years ago
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nice post hope and kool.

was touched by hope's post that two people who offer the unconditional love are your parents . the spouse comes in much later after the child has grown up.

why are archana and vaishu worrying about their parents . sulochana is a very modern mother who got archu from manav house when she found about his infidelity..so why won't she support vaishu .

got to get back to work , bye.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Arre where is shraddhu nowdays . the new promos disgust me


kools .. i hope u know that manav is also coming to america with jayawant to solve the economic problems and give obama govt sahara and also help them fight the alqeda...😆

the amount of sahara that manav has given all his life.. he shld be given noble prize...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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brillant post by hope and kools.. really reading ur thoughts is a pleasure..
very nicely out the mother - child relationship...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: viram

I can understand .Your head must not be aching it must be throbbing with pain. and spinning too at the way the writers are spinning the YAWN 🥱(not yarn).

I had mentioned earlier that I dont watch PR on a regular basis.I survive on a daily diet of Tanya's updates. All my comments are based on the updates. At times I catch up with the repeat telecast. Kudos to the two of you for making such a bi sacrifice for us members.My kids watch SAB . So generously whenever there is a commercial break they let me have a glimpse at PR. Now that I dont have the connection I dont have to go through the boring track in PR. 😆😆

How regressive can the CVs be.? I can understand it is painful for a woman to know that she is unable to conceive . But it shudnt be shown as if it is a life and death question.What about the feelings of those women who are going through such a situation. Won't it depress them? Let them show that Varsha and Satish adopt a kid. better still send her away to the US. Satish can have an affair with someone and chuck her out of his life. I dont want him to do this to her for not being able to have kids. but for the pure reason that she doesn't deserve his love.

Same with Vaishu's decision.How better is she than the maids who put up with domestic violence just to remain married.They tolerate even bigamy (trigamy too. we had a maid long back at my granny's place .Her husband was so large hearted that he married all the three sisters. ). Shame on PR for showing an educated woman going back to her bigamous husband just to secure a future for her kid and to ensure that her mother doesn't hit the bottle ...oops i mean the pump.

Have a great day.Mine has started just now .I have a long list of jobs looming large right in front of my eyes. I am trying to ignore it to read the posts.
Duty beckons.So have to go,
Bye
Love.

Darling Im very sorry to respond late . I totally agree with ur thoughts on Varsha and Vaishu's precicaments ...........they r gonna be NO nbetter than all the maids that put up with domestic violence and illegitimate bachas .
Even todays episode was BORINg but I did a commentary for my friends [ And that incudes YOU }..So enjoy .
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hope and Kools, three excellent and thought provoking posts. Objectively, I concur with almost all points. Subjectively, I need to dissent, for a mature discussion-a lone voice here but not as a discordant note. If I am too late, and hence you're not willing to discuss here I'd understand, take it as a lack of opportunity earlier in daily routine of the day.

For the first part, I agree comprehensively. Mother. The word invokes our brightest and earliest moments- life at its pristine beginning enveloped in a security of the word LIFE itself. Spiritually too, she is nearest to godliness. In my faith, her benevolence is explained as 'sakaam karuna' (compassion out of attachment)- next only to that of our gods- 'nishkam karuna' (compassion without attachment). She builds our three bodies- 'audarik,vaikriya and aharak' as our soul's temporary abode in this life. As such, our indebtedness to her is immeasurable. Of three limitless indebtedness to Sumata, Supita, Suguru, hers is first arisen….

My dissent is for the second part. When Hope says, the comparison is 'disturbing', It is. But may I assume, she has not read its first occurrence? For it was contexted in a mother's unjustifiable demands- Even gods can't demand 'injustice'. Manav's indebtedness is question less. But, does that give Savita a right to demand or insistence to come him along her way abandoning his wife? As Kools says, that is not what we are asking…just little tact and silent discharge of his duties to old parents. But how normally- rather how at all- she is allowing him to do so? What right does she have to burn another mother's womb in very presence of that mother? For all her accumulated baggage? Or the way she unleashed a public onslaught on her son, (validity of that onslaught- the banishment effected by her son or her own dictate - is another point), had she given a glance at her son's hurt eyes or withered face at helplessness to subside this road show from his mother? What kind of dark possessive love is this? Not a mother's pure love. Kools- 'Savita is not right' is not enough here. That was a broad day light murder attempt. (there's concept in my tenet - Kumata and a son's duty to bring her around to correctness). She is losing some of her claims. Her limping retreat later was only artificial. You may rightly say it was lack of exposure by many episodes on my part to miss that 'baggage', but that day she was phony- with a gold set in one hand and not a glance towards his burnt son. That was more a competent Usha Nadkarni then hurt Savita. Contrast this to her earlier attempt to shield her offspring at Rasika's party. I was fearing a very awkward scene of an aged woman's unbecoming dance…But Usha Nadkarni gave a dignified mother's dignified Lavani- shaming the offender then being shamed herself. (Incidentally turn around point). Then onward, she knows in her heart, Archana is not wicked (whatever her other faults and likely to be reconciled again), but yet when Archana asks her, what should she do to make her happy- a blunt order- get out of Manav's life. Is she not a far away portrait of a loving mother we are cherishing above- let alone imperfect?

I know, I might be irritating and perhaps misfit here. But this is not an attempt to put a dissenting note, just for the sake of a dispute. I sincerely believe in above, as well as I DO respect and cherish both of yours' posts on mother. If you feel anything otherwise, please allow for that as my limit in presentation and language. My POV.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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wah wah 👏 , Smrth has said everything that I wanted to say as well....but I cannot even dream of saying it in his kind of beautiful language ....
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Posted: 14 years ago
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samarth ..........I would not describe Savita as a Kumata . A Kumata is one who harms her own offspring ...........sells it , maims it , kills it , eats it . Savita hates Archana , not her son ,She loves her son deeply in her own way . . I am angry at the CVS for blurring her character and retreating hurriedly realising they went too far with the burning incident . However I wud still not call her evil , i wud call her psychologically crazed with grief and the losses she had incurred by then . Coz they were TREMENDOUS . She has no right to burn the child of someone else's womb yes ...............but had this burning attempt been shown on the day Sachin died , over his dead body , the furore wud have been lesser . People wud have put it down to a crazed mother's grief . Not that I justify it ..THEN or NOW . Unfortunately CVS showed her just yelling and screaming over his dead body and this attempt was shown much later when the girl had waltzed 3 times in and out of her life , disrupting it with her so called sacrifices and each time walking away after throwing her life in havoc . First time by labelling her son characterless , second time when she hERSELF requested her NOT TO GO after ensuring she got attached to her , third time by disrupting an entire bana banaya wedding when she had so many days to discuss this rationally and do it . . I have not asked Manav to go back . I have asked him to provide his family with expenses for their upkeep , and look after baby Sachu who is his dead brothers son . I have asked him NOT to make MOTHER WIFE comparison dialogues tactlessly in front of his ignorant uneducated motherand IN FRONT OF HIS WIFE as that wud further complicate things adversely . I also strongly feel that he shud not flaunt his camaraderie with his bogus sasural so openly on his crass , uneducated mom's face ..........coz she witnessed EVERY INSULT that sasural doled out to him . She was there present for it ALL . Each time she and her son had been thrown out or passed over due to their economic status . All She had was her son . They had EVERYTHING else . Today they have even her son .
You say DARK POSSESIVE LOVE . I somehow dont see u dwelling on the time she requested Archana to stay or the time when she told Archu Sukh Dekar tujhe dukh dete huye jaane ki adat hai , u shudnt have played with our emotions that way then if u intended to go .
When did Savita change Again to worse ? Only when Manav was jailed a second time . By the same family . The same pattern . Even her arch rival Rasika pointed this out matter f factly to her ..that all those who have gathered around u r hypocrites ...infact they r the ones who will look the other way while ur son rots in jail .
Cud she afford losing her only living son ? One she had lost and indirectly this family was responsible for it . She snapped and decided , NOT THIS GIRL AND NOT THIS FAMILY , NAHI CHAHIYE YEH LADKI .Let her be a beauty , Gunvan kalavati whatever , nAHI CHAHIYE . Mind u she had till that point been consistent in her love and acceptance for Archu ..she had gone to Archus engagement to give a good report to Archu's mother in law Prabha . The second jailing however did it for her .
She had not listened to Rasika and destroyed Varshas life by revealing her secret but had infact warned Varsha. This was not a woman who had Dark possesiv love . She was uneducated , crass , non diplomatic , blunt , tactless and openly and proudly greedy for wealth as she liked to taste the good things in life .
She never taught Vandita to behave badly at her sasural like Rasika teaches Manju even after she is a mother of two kids . No Samarth ...Savita is no Kumata . She is simply Savita .
Manju has repeatedly tried to BURN Archanas life ....even today she was there asking for fuel so she cud try again .These Burning attempts and their consistency is far more evil and alarming . All Manju wants is Archna to burn in hell and be miserable . Savita doesnt care if Archna lives or dies once she gets Manav back ..she is indifferent to Archana if she gets her Manav back . This is the essential difference between a dark character and grey character .
Although full of mistakes and a foul mouth , she still shines brightly compared to the picture perfect hypocritical Karanjkars who change colors like chameleons . For her only two things matter ...Her Manav and now that Sachin is no more ........her ggrandson Sachu . She doesn't understand why Manav is impractical enough not to understand that alliance with the K family will never come to any good . They will ALWAYS backstab him , they have proved it AGAIN and AGAIN .
Its not that she doesn't know that Archana is good .She DOES . This time , she CHOOSES TO IGNORE THAT GOODNESS . And if u look at her losses objectively , can u blame her ? Which mother in the real world wud have welcomed Archna as a bahu after the death of Sachin although directly she wasnt responsible ?
The gold necklace she took on the day Archna remarried Manav was more SPITE than greed .
Her grabbing of baby Sachu is again her crazed grief that knows no reason . VERY WRONG , but there it is . These r her FAULTS , but with reasons of their own ......very unfortunate reasons . The Savita we saw in beginning of PR and the Savita that remains today r two different people . Her husband actually manipulates her when he puts his mind to it .she is THAT transparent as a character .
For me this show is not about the Beautiful , graceful Archana or Ankita Lokhande . Its a story as a whole and without Savita AS SHE IS , the story crumbles . She is far more interesting a character compared to Archana .
All that is required is her anger to be channelised positively and her love to be directed correctly when Archana becomes pregnant .I have no doubts she will look after Archana like a mother and protect her in her own , crass , fierce way . I do hope CVS show this .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
This show is a huge success, it is a blockbuster and one of the main reasons of the show doing so well is the very talented cast .The show cannot be complete without the main characters ....Manav, Archana, Savita ...they all are important to the show in their own way ...
The track that Kool is sugegstign , of a crass loud Savita being protective of Archana sounds good ..Hope this is where the show is leading to ....
Difficult to say right now when this will happen ..
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago

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