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Posted: 14 years ago
Manav was at that time only interested in Shravni's future so how can I assume that he loved her ....
I think he used to just feel sorry for her that she was a good person and he was unfortunately responsible for destroying a good person
She was getting dumped for another woman and her devta was the one who was dumping her ..
I have different views about this . Mind u , I have blasted Manav a lot for fun , I have blasted Archu a lot for fun . Insaniyat Baba and Miss Shakkar and what not . The truth is I can argue like a lawyer on any character's behalf and I do it for my fun . I decide to pick one and I start my defence . I keep my real thoughts camoflauged .............and people feel but Kools defended Archu then ........now how she is taking Manavs side ? Or .....Kools defended Damo once , how is she taking Savitas side ? I do the defences based on current story tracks , but my assesment of the STORY in general is always seperate from that . I never say my real thoughts . So I will give some food for thought today ...........at these sentences of yours Tanya .
And as I see the story ..........I don't see Manav dumping Archana at all . Archna dumped him and went and came back too late is the story . By the time she reached a conclusion that I want to go back to him , it was TOO LATE . I keep repeating , the story is about how a marraige that never took off got snuffed out due to circumtances .
Far too much is made of Archu coming back and Manav not accepting her back with open arms after realising she was innocent and Manju was the real culprit . VERY LITTLE CREDENCE IS GIVEN TO THE FACT THAT MANAV"S BROTHER DIED AND ARCHANA"S STUPID FAMILY PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN CREATING THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LED TO THE YOUNG MAN"S DEATH . U see A LOVE STORY CANNOT BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN A DEATH .
When Archana saw the photos and went off , if u note , I had NOT blamed her ............it was a 15 day marraige and she was NOT THAT MUCH IN LOVE THEN TO TRUST MANAV WITH ALL HER HEART . That was so , so NORMALand I had supported her going back . It was one of my real thoughts , that understanding of that action .
Similiarly , when Archana came back after Manavs brother died after that horrific beating in jail and the badnaami that came with it , Manav had taken on a responsibility of salvaging his broken family and he had now NO TIME FOR ARCHANA AND A LUXURY CALLED LOVE COZ FAR MORE SERIOUS THINGS HAD HAPPENED . QUITE FRANKLY , THINGS HAD SPIRALLED OUT OF CONTROL AND ARCHANA DIDN"T FIT IN ANYWHERE .
Just as Archana was not THAT Much in love with Manav then when she looked at the photos and flounced off with her mom , Manav too was NOT that much in love with Archana to disregard his grieving mom , the baby his bro left behind , the shambles his dysfunctional family was left in and re accept Archana . So where does the question of him DUMPING Archana comes in ? Give me one good reason why a girl he had barely known or observed for some weeks and felt an attraction to shud be THIS IMPORTANT in his life so as to make him ignore a physically torturing Jail beating , a baby , a death , and tremendous financial burden .
When both of them and their so called LOVE STORY was merely in ATTRACTION STAGE THEN why shud Archnas going off with her mom be understood as 'normal as she was not that much in love ' and his rejection of her shudn't be understood as ' normal , he endured too much and he was only attracted to the girl but circumstances kind of nipped it in the bud didnt they ....."
Where does the question of DUMPING her comes here when obviously bOTH were not in love then , but merely attracted to each other and floundering ?
What was he supposed to do ..........be so madly in love with her , a girl whose pretty thobda had caught his fancy for some months now .........that he shud welcome her with open arms when that girl's maayka had very much been responsible for his brothers death and for the beating his old mom got in jail ? Why ? Who was Archana , was she some Queen Victoria , who was she ? Why this expectation was there that he shud have prioritised Archana then ...........what had Archana done to earn that kind of prioritisation from a man ?She hadn't even lived with him that much , they didnt even have a marraige together in real sense ! To get this kind of prioritsation from a man .....that he ignores a horrific jail beating and a death in his family and a baby duein the world , the woman shud spend at least 5 years with that man na and do some very special things for him to earn that much respect or love from his end ............here , there had been hardly any interaction between the newly wedded couple , the so called LOVE was in a primary attraction stage and horrific circumstances had taken its toll .........will , in reality , even that bASIC attraction remain ?
Well it remained for Manav , right ? that attraction remained , and that proves he kind of really loved this girl who brought nothing but turmoil in his life . Coz Manav was much happier before Archu came in his life . He worked hard , ate two meals , had a full family .......not a perfect one , but they were all together and they were kinda happy . The alliance with his dream girls family ..the superior Karanjkars wreaked havoc on them ..........coz the Karanjkars harboured a snake in their midst ........a viper called Manju , who was given full immunity by the K family as she had given them a grandchild and she wud hence ALWAYS BE THEIR GRANDCHILD"S MOM . This snake bit everyone in the D family ......she first corrupted Savitas mind , she then took away Sachin's life by destroying his dreams , She took away Shravnis life by destroying her fiancee , she gave Savita Damo a never healing grief of losing a young son . Whats more , she gave little Sachu a horrible future of NO FATHER . To this day , The Karanjkars r giving immunity to this snake . She is very much a part of the baggage with Archu ........she was then and she is now . Do u really blame Savita for being tired of the baggage that comes with Archna after Rasika pointed it out to her when Manav was framed by Dharmesh ? That was the point Savia said enough is enough for this baggage .
What is Manavs life now , after he met Archana ? Two jailings , slaps , a dead brother , insults galore like a kutta , no family any more inspite of having one , no contact with the bro's child whose responsibility he once so dearly wanted to take , incessant threats to his izzat and life by her crooked brother in law or bahu jo HAATH DHO KE USKE PEECHE PADE HUE HAI . Is any gal , in real life worth it ? Howmuchever pretty thobda she may have and howmuchever innocent and personally good she may be , will any man bear this much loss ? Well he has and he is still 'loving ' her .
So I guess its LOVE .
Their real love story started when in that 3 month stay Archna took the decision of desperately trying to regain his heart and having a mock marraige of sorts with that collection of memories garbage that she pulled in the name of 'MY WAY TO MOVE ON IN LIFE ." Now even here ,
Who had left him and gone and waited for saboots before she came back ......Archna
Who threw herself at him ? Archana
Who thrust trays on Shravni when she repeatedly told her to leave me alone ..........Archana
Who upset the apple cart and never allowed the compro marraige to take off or have a chance by constantly meddling in it ..Archna
Who refused rich proposals like Satish , Jaywant and opted for a poor life voluntarily ...........Archna
Who first told Shravni I am moving out Manav is all yours , welcomed her with aarti etc and then came running on her wedding day to say after two years of waiting by that girl ......No NO I did mistake , now I want Manav .........without giving a thought as to what Shravni will do now ? ..Archana
Who endured the sindoor and enagement and didnt mind Savitas abuse bY CHOICE coz now she wanted Manavs goodwill at any cost .........Archana
Who has , in a sense deprived Savita of both sons today .........a debatable question but I am asking u to see the bottomline alone ........one is dead due to her family , one is alive but now doesnt even spend two minutes with his mom voluntarily on her birthday while she waits and waits for him............Archana
Who has awakened the monster in Jay ? Archna
Manav doesnt spend two minutes with his mom after giving her birthday wishes coz he is miffed Savita doesnt accept him and Archu as a package but Archna goes to Vaishus party coz Vaishus insults of her husband r not that great compared to the deeper relation she has with Vaishu, right ?
This is not an Archana bashing post . I merely point out that Manav did not do any ANYAY on Archana .Archna has not redeemed him by coming in his life , she threw his simple life in a turmoil due to the baggage she brot with her . They went thru attraction phase , teething phase , and r now for the first time in a real relationship . What they had till now was not even real ........so no question of dumping comes in . I see equal progress on both sides . Both have grown , donemistakes ............in my opinion , Archna has done far too many compared to Manav who was always the steady one .
Love after teething stage has now come to relationship stage in PR . Understanding of minds is there , but both r low on passion and seem to have low libidos and sexual appetites . Well , there r some who r that way . This is the way this LOVE STORY has progressed and is now at THIS point .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
Oh God Kools!!! Excellent fantabulous post!!! You spoke my mind today. This is how I have always visualised this story. I still can't believe that after so much Manav bashing for the divorce and three month stay etc. your real thoughts about Manav could be such.

Excellent excellent post and three cheers to kools!! Hip hip hurray!!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
Just now I had a look at this post .Thanks for giving a nice detailed answer ...Some points I agree soem I don't ...
The part I agree is definitely the bit about their real love story taking off in the 3 months , even I have always thought of that ..
I am going to answer some of your questions there .And before I do that , let me tell you that I know that both manav and Archan are offerent people and their take on love is different and that is Ok...
Who had left him and gone and waited for saboots before she came back ......Archna
Archana sure did leave him but much before she got the saboot she was trying to win Manav back .She said No to a good rishta like Satish , way way before she had the saboot and not only did she say No to the rishat she gave a long speech in front of the whole world how much she loved Manav .She was tryign very hard to convince manav but Manav's hatred towards her kept her away from him ....At that time manav was very angry with her .
It is not that she only came back and started to love him because she saw the saboot ....no she loved him even though she did not have the saboot ...
Who threw herself at him ? Archana
That she did 😳 ....I agree ( wasn't exactly one sided though 😆 )...No contesting this part ..She was desperate for his love very very very badly , Even today she is ..The girl has a Manav obsession ...
Who thrust trays on Shravni when she repeatedly told her to leave me alone ..........Archana
Tha twas an extremely annoying thing she used to do ...hated that about Archana ....To me that was the worst phase of Archana's character ...the Shravani obsession thing ....
Who upset the apple cart and never allowed the compro marraige to take off or have a chance by constantly meddling in it ..Archna
This part I do not agree .She left Manav totally for one whole year ....Did not even call him or checked on him even once ..One full year and Manav did not take Shravani out even once in that year and did not look once lovingly or tried to work on the compro marriage at all...One year is a long period and Archan left them alone but there was no attraction for Shraavni from Manav's side and he just did nto try even this little bit ....so blame Manav also for the compro marriage not working out ....
Who refused rich proposals like Satish , Jaywant and opted for a poor life voluntarily ...........Archna
Yes , she loves Manav na ...So why would she want to be with someone else ....😕
Stupid girl even said yes to jaywant only to please manav ....bad bad bad move ...
Who first told Shravni I am moving out Manav is all yours , welcomed her with aarti etc
But she did leave them alone for one full year ..It is not her fault if Manav refuses to even try to love Sharavni
And good job he didn't ....😆
I mean Manav and Shraavn iwere not exactly a very popular couple .....
I am certainly not complaining ...the show is doing good Mnav and Archana get the best Jodi award every year ..so obviously it is their lovestory that has to be the focus ...
I ma just angry with the Cvs that they could have done so much with this wonderful couple but they have messed up on so many occasions .. they really goofed up with the Shraavni track , killed a fantastic character like sachin and now they are tryign to act as if Sharavni's tarck never happend because now they know that it was a bad mistake to show manav doing all that ....and Archaan backing him up ...
and then came running on her wedding day to say after two years of waiting by that girl ......No NO I did mistake , now I want Manav .........without giving a thought as to what Shravni will do now ? ..Archana
Yes , ethically Archu was wrong ...but I am happ yshe ran away for Manav ...It's Ok , if tomatoe come her way ...I will gladly take it with her
Who endured the sindoor and enagement and didnt mind Savitas abuse bY CHOICE coz now she wanted Manavs goodwill at any cost .........Archana
Yes , she wanted to win manav's trust at any cost ....even if it killed her it didn't matter to her ...
She loved him , wanted to do what he wanted her to do .She also wanted his goodwill , yes I agree ...
Who has , in a sense deprived Savita of both sons today .........a debatable question but I am asking u to see the bottomline alone ........
Here I do not agree with you at all .And this part I have always argues with you .Archana did not kill sachin ..it is somethign I will never accept .In fact only sachin and the truck driver are to be blamed , not Archan and not even Girish whose phone call drove sachin crazy ....
this part I do not agree ....
one is dead due to her family , one is alive but now doesnt even spend two minutes with his mom voluntarily on her birthday while she waits and waits for him............Archana
Manav would love to go and live in his mother's house .He is a very good son .savita herself is responsible now for not letting him in ..He is asking for a very legitimate thing that his wife should also come and live where with him....
As for beign a bad son ....Manav has done so much for his mother right from the age of 15 ..He has always taken care of responsibilities that he was not even supposed to take care of ..That boy has only wanted one thing in life and that is this girl....
If it was any other normal mother son relationship then I don't think manav would have had any problems at all ...I know that Archan will not say anythig nif Manav says that I am goin to live with my mother for 2 weeks or so ...
But whatever has happened in the past ( Savita trying to burn Archana , savita calling and lying and manipulating about sachu only so that Manav cannnot have a hooneymoon with Archana and also the past when saviat was trying her best to seperate Manav with the girl he loved so much ...I think all that has scared manav now , woh apni mother se dar gaya hai .
Even then he was trying to talk to his mother today and also when he went to wish on her birthday He felt bad about being rude to her ...He ws missing her and telling her that please let us live in this house ...
it is savita who cannot stop spitting venom against Archan ..She is letting this hate for Archana come between her and her son ....
But if some of you still think that savita is right trying to seperate manav from his wife as his wife isbad luck and all that then I guess you guys should suggest this to th Cvs ..
Let's see what they do ....
I am happy that Manav and Archana are together ,. They look so lovely together...I have been wishing to see tehm married for so long Infact this Dharmesh track is making me angry because I want to see those two together ...
Who has awakened the monster in Jay ? Archna
I know , very very bad move .This is something that is definitely Archana 's fault .If there is one person that Archana has been deliberately bad to then that is Jaywant Rane ...
She was too much in love with Manav .Should have never said yes to him .....In fact the only time I have wanted Archu to push or slap Manav was when he came to convince her to marry Jaywant and when she refused he thrwew the Sharavni thing at her .....
I honestly don't know how Archana can go on loving a guy who did this to her , who trated her like that with no thoghts for her real feelings .Pushing her in the arms of another man ..Sorry it is these things that make me strongly question Manavs love towards Archana ....and also the things that he used to do to keep Sharavni and Savita happy ..The way he would always look the other way ...
basicaly that is what I did not like about him and that is why I say that he did not really love her then ..
But he is trying to make amends these days and I am liking it , he has even apologised once or twice ....
Now Kool I have tried my best to answer staright from my heart.Some things I agree with ..Some I don't .
I hope you understand ..
I am not saying I am corret or very ethical ...this is just the way I see it .
Manav doesnt spend two minutes with his mom after giving her birthday wishes coz he is miffed Savita doesnt accept him and Archu as a package but Archna goes to Vaishus party coz Vaishus insults of her husband r not that great compared to the deeper relation she has with Vaishu, right ?
Archana never stpped Manav to go to his mother and I have told you before ..I am very very happy that Archana is so concerned for vaishu ..She is her sister after all .If Archu scould do so much for sachin and Vandita , why can't she do something for her own sister .Vaishu is in a very very big mess.
Archana will never come between mother and son ..Thye have to sort out their relationship on thir own first ....It's not Archu's fault ...Manav and Savita have to evaluate their relationship and assess their prioriites .
If savita wants Manav back then she will have to stop bad mouthing Archana in fact stop talking about Archana at all....
Manav too has to evaluate his position ..Now he knows for sure how much his mother hates Archan . he also knows the reason ( the karanjkars ) why she hates her and if he thinks that his mother is right then fine ...leave Archana, call it quits with her . ..
But if despte of every thing ...the postives of being woth Archu outweigh the negatives for him ,.then he has to communicate this to his mother very very clearly ...
What else can be done ...as for taking insults... Archu takes insults fro meveryone all the time .Manav told her that their biggest strength is their ability to take insults ......
he loves her for that 😆
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
OMG ,I am tired now ....
bus baut ho gaya ....😆

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