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Posted: 14 years ago
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Tanya . See , as I see it , there needn't be a competition of sorts between this silly ARMAN duo of seeing who has suffered the most for each other .................did Archu suffer under Savita or did Manav suffer under the K family . If Archu suffered more , she suffered of her own volition when the full deshmukh family told her to GO as her marraige had ENDED then , it was there only on paper . . In this case they r both hubby wife very much into this marraige . Now the demand that their respective spouses shud be respected is an essential need of their matrimonial alliance . At that point Sachin had died and full D family HATED Archu . She entered the house as a sort of a PENANCE as she felt responsible indirectly for her vahinis behaviour that led to sAchins death . . No one even looked at Archu as a bahu at that point ............the treatment given to her was that given to an enemy . But Manav is the damad today ..........he is in that house not as a penance doer or as an enemy but as Archnas Pati . And from that angle , knowing my community .the Marathi community ..............he is suffering the worst insults a son in law can suffer .His saalis talk disespectfully to him , Vinod doesnt talk to him , That house has put him in jail twice and may perhaps again after this money episode , he has been slapped thrice by Sulo . Its too much . No girl is worth it , not even Archna. Whatever Savita says , she is his mother , she at least brot him up , so she may be wrong from time to time but he is in the world today due to her and his drunken Dad . Who r these people to treat him worst than a kutta ? Vinod isnt dead like Sachin , and Archna hasnt been jailed like Manav .
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@Kools: Couldn't step in at this point with one thing about the whole 'Manav taking insults' question.

From whatever we have seen of the serial till now, Manav is a very practical guy. Much more than Archu, who is solely emotional.

He came to Archu's house with only one thing in mind- Archu was sick, and he needed help. That was the bare fact. Even if he had a job at that time, it wouldn't have changed situations much- he really needed someone to take care of Archu when he went to work.

So he knew that staying in that house was their (Manav + Archu's) combined need at that time. It was Archu's parents love that they brought them back and promised that they wouldn't let anyone insult him.

A practical situation- a realistic situation, sometimes you need to face terrible things in life to survive- in-laws were bound to insult- but he had only one thought- Archu was sick and he was jobless, he needed help and so stayed silent. If he had started fighting with them that don't you dare insult me- they would have told him coolly to get out if he couldn't stand them.

He tried to stay out of their way as much as possible, cos he knew they would be insulted, said we shouldn't attend their parties, and so on. He was right here.

I was only disappointed that they didn't use this track to show that the insults fuel him, the fire becomes stronger within him- he tries to get a job as soon as possible, get out of that house, while leaving- touch Mano-Sulo's feet, and throw money at Vinod-Manju, give Varsha-Vaishali a good reply and break relations forever and never forgive them (of course we know he will forgive later, but I wanted to see him say this and maintain this stand for sometime at least.)

The honeymoon at this point was not what I wanted. And that too one funded by Mano-Sulo. That too in Pune- (Aur koi jagah nahi mili????)

I'm still waiting for Monday's episode, and hoping that it will make Manav take some bold decisions.

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Posted: 14 years ago
#73
Rightly said about manav's insults di.No where a damaad will be insulted in this way in indian society or culture. Anywhere ,SIlL are respected more then their sons.Thats how it is till date.


But then, what I would say is manav is suffering as such archu as suffered(actually she suffered a lot with her own prayachit,because the emotional tortue she had gone thro' is worst than the second jail one ).Anyways both had suffered and suffering in the hand of inlaws.

Here all ungrateful ones ,vinod,varsha and vaishu cannot compensate one ungrateful savita.They were siblings,they might not mind about their sister whereas savita is a mother and still she doesn't mind about her son's happiness.

I dont like these chameleon V's or Sav. when anything good happened to them ,then they will praise and call jeeju and be lovable .These people look for their own interest alone.


Thats why I like archu more.Whether she is sensible or not,she stays true to her nature and once she keep affection on someone ,she will never leave them at any cost and still try her best to keep them happy. she doesn't change color for her own good.her love for manav stays the same.


Di,You haven't see the epi's.just like how K's insult manav when he is archu's pati now,Savita tried to burn archu alive when she is his patni .

so,final conclusion is that either K's or D's doesn't deserve SIL or DIL like manav and archu.so I wish them to start their own grihasti.
Edited by umayal - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Di,You haven't see the epi's.just like how K's insult manav when he is archu's pati now,Savita tried to burn archu alive when she is his patni .

Umi .........at no point I am saying anywhere that Savitas treatment of Archana is pardonable . What I am saying is if she sunofies Manav .her son , four words ........if she blasts her own son .........its understandable as she reared him , raised him , gave him a life . She alone has the right to blast Manav .........fair or unfair is another perspective . These Karanjkars have no earthly right .Whatever they have to say , say to ur own daughter , not to HIM . They r ill treating him with scant respect . I didnt see the episode where Sulo gives him ultimatum and asks about his constant preference of Sachu over Archna .........but I read that update and it angered me . That was so grossly UNFAIR . Ur own daughter ran away from the mandap to marry Manav fully aware of the constant Sachu situation in his life ........she walked into his life with fully opened eyes , now u guys have no earthly right to lay a guilt trip on him by asking him will he always give Sachu prefewrence over Archu .Of course YES is the blunt answer that shud have been given to Sulo . Coz My brother has died and Sachu is a responsibility that I will always place even above MYSELF was the answer Manav shud have given .Archu is a grown woman who took a decision of accepting me WITH my responsibilities . So THIS FOLLOWS . Bitter and unromantic isnt it , but this answer shud have been given to Sulo . Ek toh ur bahu took his brother away from his life , upar se ur saying now dont prioritise ur dead bros son but my daughter !! Arre , if ur daughter cant handle this deperioritisation and responsibility prt why did she step in this marraige ? Was this marraige a joke ? Certain bitter responsibilities come with every marraige .........isnt Sulo constantly prioritising Manju .a most faaltu woman only for Punnis sake ? Will she leave Punni to die if she is sick and make choice between Punni and Archu ? What an unfair question that was to Manav ! Manav shud have asked her ask urself if ull make a choice between Punni and Archna and then I will give u my answer .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc


I'm still waiting for Monday's episode, and hoping that it will make Manav take some bold decisions.



Yes Nikki.Me too waiting for the same.I want him to be a man who take care of his and his wife's respect rather then giving into ,saying that they are their relatives.if they dont deserve to be,then whats their in keeping the relation from our side alone.Just give them back and leave from there.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Oh Kools, loved loved loved your last post!!!! Even I felt it was unfair of Sulo to ask that question to Manav. Of course Manav had to go that day to see Sachin! Of course Manav should take Sachu's responsibility. You should have seen how badly Manav was blasted that day by all on the forum and Sulo was praised. It was in such situations that I missed you Kools, I really did.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Will she leave Punni to die if she is sick and make choice between Punni and Archu ? What an unfair question that was to Manav ! Manav shud have asked her ask urself if ull make a choice between Punni and Archna and then I will give u my answer .



what can I say Di other than 👏👏👏👏👏for the one in bold and for that post of yours.

You always have different centric perspective rather than emotional one(as I have).
This one doesn't come to my mind at all when I saw that epi,even I was eager to know his answer(I accept here that I was biased for archu.because practically she too is very ill and sachu was also ill,damo and sav was there to take care of him and here no one were there to lookafter archu.so I preferred him to chose archu).

But,now when u say all these,yes ,you were right too.somewhere they are solely responsible for sachu and yes manav was not too bad in his decision.His position is understandable.The point you stated doesn't strike my mind at all.

Anyways,archu has also become his responsiblity now for which I am happy. so she must also be taken care of.Thats the reason he is taking those insults now.But I want him to handle his responsibilities better rather than this way.
Edited by umayal - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc

Oh Kools, loved loved loved your last post!!!! Even I felt it was unfair of Sulo to ask that question to Manav. Of course Manav had to go that day to see Sachin! Of course Manav should take Sachu's responsibility. You should have seen how badly Manav was blasted that day by all on the forum and Sulo was praised. It was in such situations that I missed you Kools, I really did.


Yeah , Had I been there I wud have written a scathing commentary and given Cvs this answer so they wud use it in another episode as they generally stole ideas from Commentary . Mind u I dont blame Archna in this episode at all , not once has she made this demand on Manav that prioritise me over Sachu .But Sulo askled him .........and she shud have got a firm , blunt answer ....YES . Manav shud have made her CHUP . Baseless questions that elderly woman is asking .........Manohar shud have fired her . My sister's husband has given this answer to my sister before they were married even ..........he was an orphan and had the responsibility of looking after his younger sister and getting her married .He told my sis .....if u ever bring me to a point where I have to choose between u and her it will always be her as she is my responsibility , I promised my dying mom I wud be there for her for life .I need a wife who will be mature enuf to shoulder this responsibility with me , not one who will ask me to prioritise her over her ..........so dont ever bring me to that point . Needless to say my sis was mature and treated his sister like she treats me . Cvs shud have shown this toughness in Manav .No way is he loving Archu less when he prioritises Sachu , too bad if Ks cant understand it .
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hey koolsadhu1000..i'm a silent reader of ur posts..u amazingly keep the facts nd i love it...missed ur posts for a long time :( @Manav..i agree wid Niki all dis guy is thinking now is of only nd only Archu nd nuthing..and seeing dese V siblings giving a reply or ignorance or dirty looks doesn't make any difference on dem..cos wat use if dey forgot all wat dis guy did for dem so as savita for wat Archu has done for her nd shravani and still dey are behaving nd insulting lke dis den will it make a slight difference also if dey give a reply? i'm not lking dese insults to Manav but at the same time i want him to prove famous probe "Actions speaks more dan words"..he shud workhard nd become successful in his life wid Archu helping him as well... p.s..one more thing i really want satish to give divorce to Varsha nd vaishu-jay together is sumthing new to me but intresting
and Jay shud make vinod a no.1 bikaari would love dat epi lke anything
All i want is ArMan staying away frm all dese ppl for some time..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Kool, Manav did not give an answer as his answer was definitely ' Sachu ' .Archana realized it and she immediately covered up for him.Kool, for Manav , Archana is not a priority at all.It will always be his family and Archana knows that .She has gone into this marriage knowing this fully well.
That is why she got up and told Manav to go to Sachu , maybe she doesn't want to put Manav in a situation where he will be telling her mother the truth ...that her daughter is not as much of a priority as much as his own family to him ..
I know this does not speak much for the romance but that's how it is .
In fact when you were not here I was once telling Niki that Manav is a great guy and he is good person who cares for everyone but from the romance point of view , he killed the romance the day he dicided to marry Shravani and Shravni finished their engagement and not him .
Manav killed the love story for me that day ...
Even now he will always put Sachu and others ahead of Archana ...
Archu knows that but her family doesn't ..They still think that he made Archana run away from the mandap where as what really happened was that he had no intentions of marrying Archu but she was the one who left her mandap to come running after him, she is ready to love him even if he only throws love on her like crumbs ..
he only came to Archana when Shraavni left him ...
Archana's family don't know the facts , they don't know how obsessed their own daughter is with this guy ...
I guess he does love Archana in his own way , he has been even confessing his love these days ....but for this man his responsibilities towards the family are more important .
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago

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