Kool Comments : Nov 18 - Page 7

Hi kool, As you already know i am a big fan of your posts but today i will disagree. The post seemed too biased. You let savita get away with anything whereas archana's family is raked over the coal everytime.

My jaw literally dropped open when i heard savita demand archu;s jewelery. That was not hurt, that was just greed. How does someone even think of money at this time defies logic. And one thing savita also knows is that archana is least interested in money and jewelery so its not if archu is going to grieve over it. It was petty, mean and just plain greedy.

Savita picked up the broom to hit archu. Hell, she caught her by the hair and was throwing her out of the house. how is this ok and sulochana slapping manav is not ok ?

If everyone's life is in a mess then in my opinion there are three people to blame - archu, manav (equally, not less or more) and savita. How can anyone forget her cruelty towards archu ? She was absolutely ill treated as a bahu and when archu returned home, she plotted and schemed to further the gap between the two. She keeps pressurising manav in the name of motherly love. i don't think she rises above the situation rather she stoops down to it. She is one of those people who always finds other people to blame for her misfortune.

Greedy she may be but she doesn't disguise it and her words to Girish were true ........that I am indeed laalchi but I REALLY wanted Shravni as a bahu .........theres more to my want of Shravni than mere Lalach , greed .

.... A trend i have seen is nowadays alot of characters have this defense - "at least i am honest about it."
i am crude and vulgar - but "at least i am honest about it."
i am greedy - but "at least i am honest about it."
i am selfish - but "at least i am honest about it."
etc etc .....

This is not honesty, this is just plain bad manners. You can't excuse all sorts of horrendous behaviour by saying 'i don't hide anything, what you see is what you get' ...............

Which is the case with savita - she says she is greedy and no not disguising it doesn't make it ok. The way she tortured archu for money was not ok. And no, she didn't really want shraavani as her bahu. When savita was in her archu-poojan mode, she used to constantly belittle shraavani and compare her to archu. On one occasion she actually told her - that manav doesn't love you and we all can't forget archana - this is your fault that you are not good enough to make us love you instead. If you change yourself, become more like archu we will forget her.

....... The thing is that savita sees everyone else's fault except her own. She took down one and all, made huge tamasha's of everyone no matter how small the provocation ..... She is hardly the blameless loving mother you portray her to be

Originally posted by: stillhopeful

Manav made the right decision in moving out with Archana (now that they have decided to unite). That was the only solution to break this inevitable collision course.

ArMan need to regroup, stabilize and let fresh wounds heal before they decide to mingle with the family again. It is only fair to the families who they have shocked and overwhelmed with their constant flip flopping and philantrophy.

Wonderful post Hope! I especially agree with the above lines. Manav and Archu shouldn't run behind others trying to make them accept them. They should give their families space and grieving time, while still trying to maintain relations from the outside. That is what I liked about Manav yesterday, and utterly disliked about Damo yesterday. Damo is BLIND in his love for Archu.😡

Have a happy and safe journey Kool di.
Will miss u..

kool di first of all a big thank u for posting such a brilliant commentary, 😊😃

Originally posted by: -SD-

nice comments.

From the begining I always told Sulochana is a negative character and savita may be bad but not at all harmful. If I am not wrong, savita hasn't slapped anybody unlike Sulochana. When savita lost her son, Sulochan should have thrown away Manju. but she always saved her butt. even today Manju is her darling daughter in law.

u r true Kool. savita has lost everything. ajit is now a good hubby to vandu, that's the only thing she has gained as of now. Sulochana is composed of false ego and I insist she is purely resposible for all major debacles.

SD


both aais are not as clear cut as they appear in my opinion. there are so many shades of grey in both of them that it bamboozles the mind because keep switching between moments of love, hate, exasperation, frustratation, sympathy. For us to experience such potent emotions to these women would mean that the situation with them is not black or white.

Sulo is the average conservative Indian mom. she is not down on her luck as Savita and has not had the disadvantage or even misfortune of seeing her children destroyed permanently.

Her expectations for her children are clear (live stable, socially correct and prosperous lives - happiness is the cherry on the cake not the cake itself) and her children have a very clear understanding of her expectations. Archu the clearest I would say.

It is easy as young lovers and as youth to feel that Sulo's reaction was too harsh.

but her anger stems from her fear for a stable future for her children.

is she wrong to go about slapping people? definitely. does archu do the same? absolutely. does that make both of them negative characters for this visibly violent trait? Nope it just make them people who are unable to deal with high levels of stress and who use extreme actions when they are overwhelemed. they either breakdown and cry (defensive) or stand up and retaliate (offensive).

When Vaishu broke her marriage, Sulo did not get mad. Why? because Vaishu presented an alternate groom who was financially well placed and mature. Vaishu's alternative eased her fears as a parent because she could see Vaishu and Dharmesh leading stable, socially correct and prosperous lives.

Archu's marriage was an error from the start. Sulo lowered her expectations in a resigned manner and accepted archu's fate. When Manav left she raised the bar to her original expectations. She does not have the knowledge of Jai's duplicitous ways and so with the lens she is viewing the Archana - Jay marriage, Archu will have a stable, socially correct and prosperous life with jay.. what is so wrong in wishing that for her child? Does that make her a negative character.. I would love it if my mom wished that for me. Children view things with a shortsighted lens, parents think about the future. therein lies the generational gap and this cannot be changed. but we cannot condemn our elders for their pragmatic approach because at some point of time the rose coloured glasses have to be returned.

when archu presented manav as the alternative to jay, Sulo's fears were resurrected. here is a man with limited education, no home, no prospects, no career ambitions just love and goodwill. Do you blame her for freaking out? Especially when she has been bitten once by their association and as a normal human being is afraid of being bitten again?

I don't think Sulo should be judged so harshly for her reaction.

Kools said many things that I agree with and the following is just one example (as I am running short on time😳)

Sulochana is hurt but Sulochana has EVERYTHING . Savita stands stripped of everything . I totally agree and in the current situation Savita is the bigger loser.

But I think Sulo's reaction was appropriate.

I am glad the CVs showed something realistic. Maybe not the degree of drama but drama of this nature will definitely follow in middle class India if ArMan happens to average families.

what is important for young people is not to take a jusgemental approach to the aais but to see the collateral damage and the fallout of their actions and be prepared for a similar response if they decided to live the ArMan way

Edit Add: I am not upset that ArMan decided to reunite. i think people are entitled to happiness and it is also a sad fact of life that you cannot please everyone all the time you can only please some of the people some of the time. What is irksome is not their reunion but their self righteous soap box oblivious attitude and their shortsighted action.

Originally posted by: bips

How does someone even think of money at this time defies logic.

Savita is one of the greediest people I have seen. irrationally so. but for the first time yesterday I did not see greed in her face when she asked for the gold. i saw defiance, provocation, anger. i saw a wounded lioness clawing away at the remnants of a battle in the hope of not looking totally defeated by her helplessness. She was seeking a consolation prize anything to salvage her battered hopes in the face of crushing loss and total destruction

usha nadkarni did a fabulous job of portraying savita.👏

Originally posted by: stillhopeful

SD


both aais are not as clear cut as they appear in my opinion. there are so many shades of grey in both of them that it bamboozles the mind because keep switching between moments of love, hate, exasperation, frustratation, sympathy. For us to experience such potent emotions to these women would mean that the situation with them is not black or white.

Sulo is the average conservative Indian mom. she is not down on her luck as Savita and has not had the disadvantage or even misfortune of seeing her children destroyed permanently.

Her expectations for her children are clear (live stable, socially correct and prosperous lives - happiness is the cherry on the cake not the cake itself) and her children have a very clear understanding of her expectations. Archu the clearest I would say.

It is easy as young lovers and as youth to feel that Sulo's reaction was too harsh.

but her anger stems from her fear for a stable future for her children.

is she wrong to go about slapping people? definitely. does archu do the same? absolutely. does that make both of them negative characters for this visibly violent trait? Nope it just make them people who are unable to deal with high levels of stress and who use extreme actions when they are overwhelemed. they either breakdown and cry (defensive) or stand up and retaliate (offensive).

When Vaishu broke her marriage, Sulo did not get mad. Why? because Vaishu presented an alternate groom who was financially well placed and mature. Vaishu's alternative eased her fears as a parent because she could see Vaishu and Dharmesh leading stable, socially correct and prosperous lives.

Archu's marriage was an error from the start. Sulo lowered her expectations in a resigned manner and excepted archu's fate. When Manav left she raised the bar to her original expectations. She does not have the knowledge of Jai's duplicitous ways and so with the lens she is viewing the Archana - Jay marriage, Archu will have a stable, socially correct and prosperous lives.. what is so wrong in wishing that for her child? Does that make her a negative character.. I would love it if my mom wished that for me. Children view things with a shortsighted lens, parents think about the future. therein lies the generational gap and this cannot be changed. but we cannot condemn our elders for their pragmatic approach because at some point of time the the rose coloured glasses have to be returned.

when archu presented manav as the alternative to jay, Sulo's fears were resurrected. here is a man with limited education, no home, no prospects, no career ambitions just love and goodwill. Do you blame her for freaking out? Especially when she has been bitten once by their association and as a normal human being is afraid of being bitten again?

I don't think Sulo should be judged so harshly for her reaction.

Kools said many thinks that I agree with

Sulochana is hurt but Sulochana has EVERYTHING . Savita stands stripped of everything . I totally agree and in the current situation Savita is the bigger loser.

But I think Sulo's reaction was appropriate.

I am glad the CVs showed something realistic. Maybe not the degree of drama but drama of this nature will definitely follow in middle class India if ArMan happens to average families.

what is important for young people is not to take a jusgemental approach to the aais but to see the collateral damage and the fallout of their actions and be prepared for a similar response if they decided to live the ArMan way

i totally agree wat u said. i tink sulo is just scared for her.if any mom get a choice to chose a hubby for her daughter,she will choose jay(sulo dont know jays true face). however gud manav is,he has a mad mother,drunkard father,alwys surrounded wid sum crises house,and manav is d same guy who dumped her daughter for sum1 else,and archu and her fly has suffered a lot caUSE of dem(i agree even savita has,sachin death etc but u cant blame dem cause it is just destiny. u cannot fight wid death,if he wldnt hav died intruck accident he wld hav died in usa)

Hai Kool Di.Asusal Nice commentary.There you go. With your well versed
Knowledge on everything and a different outlook on scenarios.👏👏. As
always,I was able to know unknown info from you and you put your points
very convincing which is also a regular one(for these things,I admire
you more).👏🤗

I saw it from an emotional pov,for me ,savita seems not good at many
circumstances.Even yesterday,I don't like her way of asking
jewelery and sometimes the way she behaved.But then when we introspect from where she came and what she had gone thro', yes her way of doing things are ok w.r.t her
nature(even it doesn't go well with me).

So with that,I say her anger on archu was justified and yes I agree
with her dialogue of marriage is not a game and she was not too bad or
intolerable yesterday(Actual yesterday she was ok,compared to her in the beginning of PR).we saw outburst of a lady who lost what she wants
the most(sachu).so if sulo has right to slap manav,then so does savita
to scold archu(both have insulted their inlaw(sil or dil) or abused them to the core-so what
deal,one is big,other is small).Yesterday she was not a bad lady(considering her current situation) but a
bad mother.Thats how I saw her.

She always thinks of sachu and sachu,once not think of manav.Everytime
she gives important to what she thought or wants. First,she doesn't
like archu,so created misunderstandings and be a reason for signing
divorce papers,then she wanted sachin's child,so supported shravani
over archu,then she liked archu,so ask manav not to divorce,now she
want sachu back,so dont want archu. So in all these,she was making
manav do what she wants and not once think,how her son will feel about
it. I accept,sachin is no more,so she loves sachu more.But then will
not manav have a son of his own. Doesn't his wish should be valued.

Sulo doesn't see archu happiness, as her ego doesn't let her to accept
it(that she lost control over her beti). Savita doesn't see manav
happiness ,as her wish and happiness was destroyed. In my view,these
both have become bad mothers. I accept ARMAN has made mistakes,but it
is not unforgivable,after all by forgiving this,only their children
will be happy.

One more thing is that,In begining of PR sulo was far more better than
savita but after post leap,I feel somewhere sav as a mother(leaving her
greed aside-she broughtup like that) was better.


And agree with you on Damo baba,he shouldn't have told sav to get
out.He should have handled in a better way by favouring both(ARMAN and
sav).

And again agree on ARMAN marriage.Waiting to see that happen.

Di,surely manav will help their parents and ofcourse,My archu will ask
him to do that,even if he misses the correct day(yehna Tanya di?).

And one more is that di,yesterday manav stayed true to his character and he was good in the decision he made,but why most felt,he should be a little more vocal is that,if archu can shown out of character for manav,then why not manav for archu.Why cant he support her with little more force. Though ARMAN has done what they wish in a wrong way and anger is justified,abusing from both the moms was more than they deserved,after all for what they have done so far. so when it is not deserved,archu stand for manav,we wish the same for archu from manav.Thats all.Anyways I liked manav yesterday.

And atlast,what you said about Kaliyug and good will suffer is very much true.And even I see it with my mom.

Di,Going to Miss you a lot.And of course your views and commentary.🤗🤗

Originally posted by: acre

kool di first of all a big thank u for posting such a brilliant commentary, 😊😃

ur today's commentary has mainly focus on savita,😆

u can't believe it but there r only three characters which force me to watch this serial savita,vandita & archana.😉

i m happy that savita is the strongest anchor of this ship(serial),⭐️

a big salute for that writer for potraying such a wonderful character called savita,👏

,

the best quality of savita is

"jo dil mein hain

woh muh par hain"

its means she doesn't change her color according to the situation,

as like sulo does,😡

sulo has done PG in the course of changing colors,😈

previously savita has requested archana to plz stop this divorce,

she doesn't want that her son manav & achana will be separated,

but neither her son nor her bahu listen to her,

becoz both wants to show their mahanta infront of the public na,

even the D family fully awares from that fact neither the K family loves them nor they will ever gave them respects.

but still Dam D & manav always treats K family as their own family,

except savita nobody has the dare to stand against the K family,

somebody has to teach the lesson of K family for their double standard behavior which they always applied for the D family,

now its time for my shayari😆🤡

jo bichhad gaye humse kisi raah mein

woh humein kisi mod par kabhi to milenge.

humne to unki yaadon ko har mausam mein mehsoos kiya hain

pata nahin woh humein kab tak khwaboon mein akar jalaenge.

unke intezaar mein beet gayi meri jeeven ki kitni shaam

kabhi kabhi unko bhulane ke liye peene padte hain mujhe kiie jam

main shayar badnaam