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Kool commenting in brief on todays tamasha with Savita The Terrible . .
I have no doubt today that the full forum must be hating SAvita for talking so badly to Archana ..........butttttttt
I don't find her THAT terrible . And whats more , I don't find her anger WRONG .
Two statements of Savita in today's scene were very very profound . TU MUH UTHAAKE CHALI AAYI AUR YE SAMJHI KI MAIN TUJHE BAHU MANOONGI ?
SHAADI KO KYA KHEL SAMAHJTI HAI ?
VERY true . Archana DID treat marraige like a GUDDA GUDDI KA KHEL and broke it at her mahaan whim ........She has waltzed in and out of Deshmukh life exactly the way she pleased and thrown the family in turmoil each time . Right upto the point that she turned up in Shravni's mandap declaring NOW SHE WANTS MANAV , Archana has been fickle and wrong . She is being applauded as LOVER ARCHNA today and its all very well for her to say MAANA KI HAMARA TAREEKA GALAT HAI PAR IRAADA SAHI HAI ...................That does not wipe out the bloody trail she and Manav have left behind . A trail of intense humiliation to many people including two familes , a tragic death , an illegitimate child still without a name , a person who lost two years of her life due to the false promises the duo made to her which they eventually cudn't keep .
Sulochana is hurt but Sulochana has EVERYTHING . Her entire family is living , hale and hearty ., and most importantly ON HER SIDE although she is ego driven and wrong . She stands surrounded by Betis , damaads , husband who obeys her , beta , bahu ........all who sit and stand at HER word . No member fron her family has died and her grandchildren r with her . . Savita stands stripped of everything . She has lost one beta due to the toll this unfortunate alliance with the Karanjkars took place on his just blossoming life .......The Karanjkar bahu Manju threw all in jail and it wrecked the DEshmukhs forever . The Surviving beta has left her for Archana and her grandson has been lost forever . Her husband .....a sarcastic drunk is never on her side but makes fun of her all the time .........to the extent that he was disrespectful enough to tell HER to leave the house in front of his 'DREAM BAHU" . He cud have told Manav to set up a seperate house and be happy too , but he chose to give his wife zero value . He never does anything concrete except wish for Archna Manavs marraige to happen ......a good thing , I don't fault that , but he has no remedies for the PROBLEMS ARMAN leave behind . His remedy is drinking and laying the burden on bappa and driving his wife crazy by mocking her like a Narad Muni , never really relating to the grief she keeps suppressed and blocks with material diversions and attachment to grandson . In many respects i find the character of Damodar CRUEL to Savita . Many won't agree with me but its my POV and every time I watch the duo , my sympathies go to Savita , not him . She tries in her own faulty way to rise above every situation .........she goes and fights with the Karanjkars in an attempt to give them back good for insulting her Manav , she goes to meet Jaywant Rane outside the company building to request him to take the case back on Manav , she barges in the company to ensure Manav still has a job and fights Dharmesh .........her ways r crude and faulty but she fights and fights to get out of every situation the family lands in . Damodar does NOTHING but drink and mock her efforts and be non co operative . I find Damodar laidback , irresponsible , impotent and loser like . His treatment of Shravani was unfair , his bias towards Archana has no real rhyme or reason . Its just there , thats it . He hardly cares for his own daughter Vandu over Archana . I find him a funny little man .Many say that Savita blaming bad luck on Archna is unfair , she shud blame it on Shravni coz she is ill fated . I disagree . It was the Karanjkar alliance that took its toll on the SAchin Shravni rishta too ...........the jailing destroyed Sachins personal dreams , he drank and walked when Girish broke the alliance . Everything followed the jailing and the jailing was due to the Karanjkar bahu . To this date Archna has protected that bahu's butt . In a practical sense , Sachin's death cannot be blamed on anyone .neither the truck driver , nor Archu nor Manju nor the Karanjkars . But in a moral sense I wud say the Karanjkar Rishta proved very costly for Savita .
Stripped of sons and grandson and mocked by husband Savita is a sorrier figure than Sulochna . I sense EGO in Sulo's anger , I sense grief in Savita's . Her voice is hoarse from screaming and cracks and touches a chord in my heart . Her dialogue to Sulochana that go up and see .......my house never was this empty , your daughter did this to this house was very very heart rending .
No I am not glorifying Savita here . Next to Shravani she affects me as an intensely human and electrifying grey character ..........one who brings the screen alive with her sheer presence .
Archana removing the jewels like a saint did not impress me in the least , she had Manav in her pocket . Savita demanding the jewels with purposeful meanness revealed a deeply hurt woman to me .............who went out of the way to be mean as mean cud be coz her son was leaving her for this woman who was indirectly responsible for the intense upheaval in her life . Her only surviving son was leaving her ........and in defeat Savita does not cry , she becomes shrill and mean . Those handful of jewels did not really interest her in a materialistic sense , it was more of ANGER . Thats how i saw it .
The jewel talk was a crude way of explaining AUKAAT to Archna .........coz Sulo has constantttly thrown AUKAAT in Savita's face . it hurts when AUKAAT is thrown with such venom . Savitas wounds r fresh . She too tried to show Archna the marraige market aukaat ........on every level the girl who was marrying Manav was superior to u .......in education , wealth , everything , what market value r u carrying in the real world was HER QUESTION . Her beta was a mechanic but he had bagged that girl . Yes , I know , hateful isn't it ? But try and see the point she is making . Archnas Mom constantly makes it .
Greedy she may be but she doesn't disguise it and her words to Girish were true ........that I am indeed laalchi but I REALLY wanted Shravni as a bahu .........theres more to my want of Shravni than mere Lalach , greed .
Felt very sorry for Savita as Manav left the house today .Manav had given signatures on Jay's papers uncaring what his old parents wud do after he wud go in for life , Somewhere , the responsible image of Manav is slightly tarnished .He must NEVER forget that SAchin dIED and that The Karankars r enjoying a living Vinod and his salary . Let Manav currently enjoy honeymooning but I want him to to provide for Damo and Savita . One musn't forsake ones parents when they r dependent FINANCIALLY on u . Archnas case is different .
Now for the controversial WEDDED STATUS OF ARMAN . We see today Damo asking Shaadi kar li ?And they nodding , but NO IT HASN"T HAPPENED . Hindus follow the state law and court marraiges and also the Vedic marraige . None of these two marraiges happened .
It was pointed out to me by a member that Vedic Marraige only requires a holy fire , nOT a mangalsutra ...........that it is an add on . Well I wish to point out that there were no seven rounds around a holy fire near the lakeside . In fact there was no holy fire aT all .
It was argued that mangalsutra was nOT found in excavations in Mohenjo Daro and Harappa .and hence is an add on .I disagree here . Mangal sutra means SACRED thread . Today beads r woven in that thread black beads to ward off the evil eyes and gold beads to invite prosperity but in reality , the basic mangal sutra in Vedic times was a thread smearred with turmeric alone that the man tied around the womans neck or in some sub castes later around the wrist . It very much existed . It is mistakenly believed to be an ORNAMENT .It is actually a sacred thread . Called as THAALI or MANGALYAM by South Indians and as Mangal sutra by Maharshtrians we see the Mangalsutra as an ornament today with black beads and gold beads and a pendant in jewellery shops .........its original form was that of a sacred thread alone . MANGAL = Sacred SUTRA = THREAD . The husband ties it around the wife's neck and she does not remove it till the dying day . A very important symbol and proof of the status of a married woman . Widows have to remove it when husband dies before the woman .
It was then pointed out according to ANCIENT HINDUISM there is no divorce in the religion so ARMAN r still married . Then I wish to point out that Shravni is Manav's second wife coz he accepted her in front of society with sindoor in front of a diya burning in front of bappa . In bygone eras Hindu Men married more than once . What I want to say is Hinduism is a religion that is very ancient and that is very welcoming of positive change . Hindus today follow state law to give positive co operation regarding the efforts put in to avoid social chaos by Social leaders . They have stopped marrying more than one spouse , and they divorce in a court of law when the marraige doesn't work under dire circumstances . So please don't apply Ancient Hinduism from a bygone era here , look only at the current Hindus and how the religion is practised TODAY .
The divorce was done in front of hundreds ..........the remarraige was done in front of no witnesses . In all practical purposes there is no marraige and ARMAN will be legally unmarried with merely a LIVE IN RELATIONSHIP . Ask ANY expert and he will tell u that ARMAN have no marraige to this point .
Arguing that how will the witnesses hold good If they r hardly known .is mere..........for instance one may marry in another state in front of two strangers ........is that then a marraige ? The witnesses r required to register proof .Today inspite of a vedic marraige Hindus get marraige certificate by giving proofs to resistrar . Muslims do nikaah in front of Kazi and say kabul in front of many witnessing the marrraige . The stress on Society being present is to ensure security and legal validity to the holy union so that the spouses don't just dump each other and walk off later shirking their responsibilities ..........for man is ultimately an animal . The Social pressure keeps check and avoids chaos in society .
Gandharva Vivaah ........a kind of secret love marraige without witnesses is a part of Ancient Hinduism but I wud like to point out that it was not encouraged too much even then . Cases of Gandharva Vivaah were rare and hard to prove . The Dushyant Shakuntala marraige is a classic example .........where after becoming pregnant Shakuntala had a hard time proving she even had a marraige with Dushyant and it was his word against hers . Hindus insisted on Vedic marraiges with society present . The urging was to VALIDATE IT .
The sub castes in Hinduism later preserved 13 steps of the Vedic marraige as commonalities and stressed on certain symbols of marital status as particular to their caste . If North Indians and Bengalis fill sindoor in maang as the major symbol , Maharshtrians and South Indians insist on the mangal sutra as the main symbol . Both these symbols existed in vedic times too . With Sub caste division , their prominence in each caste differed .
And so .............ALL Hindus today marry in two ways ................a Vedic marraige with particular rituals of THEIR sub caste and then registering the marraige legally .
I request CVS to give a proper marraige to ARMAN ASAP ...preferably a court one as they divorced in a court . They need lEGAL status . Archna needs to have a mangal sutra tied around her neck by Manav . That is the way Marathis marry . Each Sub caste has adopted some rituals as trademark of tHEIR caste ........why mix the sub castes ? Archana Karanjkar needs the symbol HER sub caste stressed on ........the mangal Sutra .
Kools signing off for the day . Sorry to bore u guys but interesting questions were asked . I know , I know , no one will agree with me but someone has to say the unpopular thing too doesnt she ? In all practical purposes ARMAN today r unmarried still .
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