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umayal

@LuvSSever

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Posted: 14 years ago

#31

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

No umi ur right

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but what has happened is viewers like me are seeing Manav insulted so much by K family that it actually feels good to see them getting a dose .Know what i mean ?😆

Of course di, I understand it. And I too Dont have objection to it, other than if it is archu. And you know why....😊😃

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Kalapi

@Kalapi

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Posted: 14 years ago

#32

One thing I must say, that I am glad I have a mom who supported me through all my mistakes (some of them pretty serious ones too.) and loved me unconditionally with all my faults. Can't really say that for the moms in this serial. Comeon, the relationship shared between a mom and her kids is one of the most 'pavitra rishtas' that can exist on this planet and I don't know of any mom rejecting a daughter, however wrong she is, when she most needs her both physically and mentally. Mistakes are not realized instantly and it takes time to appreciate the consequences of an action until much much later (and generally when it becomes hard to get or achieve), and Varsha might never even realize her mistake until the day she really start wanting a kid and might have problem conceiving or might never even realize it if she conceive successfully later. Her realization might not be even in the card, because at the end it something that was she didn't really want. There are plenmty of men and women who are really career minded and will go to any length to achieve it. While I don't necessarily support her I seen people who are extremely committed as well. I personally do not judge them, it their choice. But Sulo's behavior was beyond my comprehension more so as a mom.

And really, Varsha being thrown out from both houses makes me really sad - what does it mean - that a women at the end belongs neither with her 'mom's place' or her in-laws. So, she does a huge mistake and for that she is thrown out? What is the value of a women in our society, just a reproductive figure - please give me a break - beg to disagree strongly with all those who thinks both the houses were justified doing so and am glad Varsha was strong enough to think she needs no one. God, help all of us if a mistake (even as huge as this) means she gets thrown out.

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

Stunner

+ 3

Posted: 14 years ago

#33

Kalapi . Sometimes it becomes necessary to throw your offspring out so he learns some values before HIS death in this world . . We saw that movie where Amitabh throws his son Akshay Kumar out simply to stop his freeloading habit . He needed to grow up and start earning money himself .He had married , and brought a wife and son in this world and was freeloading off his father . . Varsha dumped her mom and had moved out saying I need my space when she wanted to shift to pG accomodations before Satish came in her life . Doesnt Sulo have a right to ask her to move out as she cannot get along too ?Isnt a mother a human being ? If we speak of equal rights here , I dont see why Varsha has the right to walk off and dump all and sundry as and when she pleases but others dont have a right to exercise their choice of not wanting her around . . Her mother in law cud not bear to live with her under the same roof .She was ready to go herself , last time she had gone to Worli flat .Even now she gave her son a choice . She bluntly told him , I cannot live with her , Ur choice is urs I wont force . . This is an issue of principles . If Varsha chose other values she shud learn to craft her own fate .Others cannot be dragged with her . Isnt this fair enough ? . Its all very well to say Moms shud be there unconditionally for their children come what may . But what about our duies to them ?Shud we take this for granted and go on behaving in a spoilt manner ? Shud they never emote , or give ultimatums ? . She is grown up , she can live her life and THATS what her mom said . .It had nothing to do with evaluating woman in reproductive capacity only .It was horrifed reaction at daughter's insensitivity . And Sulo is entitled to that .

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bips

@bips

Sparkler

+ 8

Posted: 14 years ago

#34

^^ Kalapi, i liked your reasoning .... made me think .......

My home is a place where i can go whenever i want, live however i want ... its my sanctuary from the world .... its something that is unequivocally mine ......

but what about a married woman - she gets thrown out of her inlaws place (whatever her mistake) and her parents refuse to let her enter the home where she was raised ...... What is hers then ???? ...... Is there no place a woman can call her own ? ..... no place where living, safety and security is unconditional ? .... No matter how wrong they have done in life, everyone should have that one place which is their safe haven .....

I didn't think of this .... With your comment i was forced to ....

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bips

@bips

Sparkler

+ 8

Posted: 14 years ago

#35

now i am getting koolsadhu's point of view too ........

..... i guess it comes down to financial independence ..... if you want to toot the independence, its-my-life horn irrespective of anyone else's feelings or emotions then you should be willing to go at it alone .....

if you want to live in a family, you can't just go on about your rights, you have responsibilities too .....

The problem i guess is that varsha has not an iota of remorse .... How can you expect your mother to forgive you if you don't even ask for forgiveness in the first place .... How can you expect others to understand you, if you don't make an effort to understand anyone else ..

Having said that, throwing people out of the house never sat well with me ..... if you are a family then everybody has an equal right over the house .... if you throw someone out, it sort of says - you right to live here is dependent on my approval ..... which sort of goes against the idea of any place being your home ....

i am confused ...

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Kalapi

@Kalapi

Dazzler

Posted: 14 years ago

#36

But Kools, Varsha needs support more than anything else now. I am not for abortion but have seen a quite a few women not wanting babies until secured in a career as well have seen moms who have aborted (with husband's consent) when unplanned pregnancies happens. Yes, she rushed out and did something stupid that she should have talked over with someone, but as a mom myself I will still take my daughter in even if she commits the greatest crime. Moms of murders do cry and still support their kids even if they don't support the crime they did. I think moms have the ability to separate the crime from the person. Not saying Sulo should be happy at what she did, but the support should go beyond that, at least that what I think. Kids when they grow up do a lot of stipid things (like leaving house to be independent or falling for the wrong person or get pregnant) and being parents isn't an easy role to play, but mom is still a mom first and the bond shared between a mom and her kids goes much beyond, even beyond that shared by a dad and the kid. Sorry, Varsha however wrong she is, needs her right now to heal and not sure I can accept Sulo's and attitude today was beyond me. Comeon Sulo is a mom first and foremost, I can understand Bhravna, but not Sulo...

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Tanyaz

@Tanyaz

Trailblazer

+ 5

Posted: 14 years ago

#37

That was very nice what manav did for varsha but in the entire karanjkar family he can only count on one person and that is Archana ...

Even now the reason why she is avoiding him because she truly feels that this is the best thing for his family as well .after seeing him go crazy for her like he did, she is worried about him .

Other than that he can count on no one ..

But Archana can count on vandita and Damodar as well ...

What vandu is to Archana , even her sisters aren't .

Today varsha very convinientl ystarted calling Manav jeeju again , after being so rude to him ..Vandita really thinks of Archana as her bhabi with no motives a or benefits for herself here .It's just pure love and respect for Archu and maanv 's feelings for Archana the reason she calls her that ...

Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago

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Tanyaz

@Tanyaz

Trailblazer

+ 5

Posted: 14 years ago

#38

Originally posted by: Kalapi
Comeon Sulo is a mom first and foremost, I can understand Bhravna, but not Sulo...

I can understand why Sulo told varsha to go away , she is angry , old ...her husband has retired ..all the time chik chil from manjusha .

this woman has done so much for her daughters .Listening to maju's taunts is not easy .Varsha made a mistake now she has to bear responsibity of it all alone .

she should not burden anyone for the mistakes that she made .

Whatever the punishment she has to face it now ..

However I am glad that if Sulo did not support her , Archu did ....

Little brothers and sisters are like your own children ..Her support will halp varsha realize what a huge mistake she has made in her life ..

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Kalapi

@Kalapi

Dazzler

Posted: 14 years ago

#39

Originally posted by: Tanyaz

I can understand why Sulo told varsha to go away , she is angry , old ...her husband has retired ..all the time chik chil from manjusha . True, but she should have said that she can't take her in for financial reasons which I could understand, but Sulo said she isn't taking her in beacuse she doesn't want to show the world that she is supporting her by taking her in (or something). She acted just like Bharva....stepmotherly to me...

this woman has done so much for her daughters .Listening to maju's taunts is not easy .Varsha made a mistake now she has to bear responsibity of it all alone .

she should not burden anyone for the mistakes that she made .

Whatever the punishment she has to face it now ..But it is fair to punish someone just by not supporting her when she needs most.....and what if she never thinks its a mistake...just because people are telling her its a mistake doesn't make her believe it to be mistake....mistakes are appreciated when it comes from within oneself I think....one can't make someone else regret something however hard someone tried...it comes from within...I think

However I am glad that if Sulo did not support her , Archu did ....

Little brothers and sisters are like your own children ..Her support will halp varsha realize what a huge mistake she has made in her life ..

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

Stunner

+ 3

Posted: 14 years ago

#40

Originally posted by: Kalapi
But Kools, Varsha needs support more than anything else now. I am not for abortion but have seen a quite a few women not wanting babies until secured in a career as well have seen moms who have aborted (with husband's consent) when unplanned pregnancies happens. Yes, she rushed out and did something stupid that she should have talked over with someone, but as a mom myself I will still take my daughter in even if she commits the greatest crime. Moms of murders do cry and still support their kids even if they don't support the crime they did. I think moms have the ability to separate the crime from the person. Not saying Sulo should be happy at what she did, but the support should go beyond that, at least that what I think. Kids when they grow up do a lot of stipid things (like leaving house to be independent or falling for the wrong person or get pregnant) and being parents isn't an easy role to play, but mom is still a mom first and the bond shared between a mom and her kids goes much beyond, even beyond that shared by a dad and the kid. Sorry, Varsha however wrong she is, needs her right now to heal and not sure I can accept Sulo's and attitude today was beyond me. Comeon Sulo is a mom first and foremost, I can understand Bhravna, but not Sulo...

What wud Varsha do if Sulo were dead ?

Look for me its very very simple . Parents r not robots . they r human beings . They have every right to emote , express it , take decisions take stands just like their children .

Who says that these rights only belong to children and that the job of parents is to stand mutely and just welcome the prodigals with open arms keeping their own feelings hanging on some shelf ? How convenient for the children isnt it . Kick ur parents , do rubbish and just expect tto waltz back . Give it the name of unconditional love

Varsha as a daughter left her aged mom and family and went out in the world to live on her own . Sulo was there for her and took her back when she returned .

But when Varsha became a mother to be did she remain for her baby just the way Sulo was there for her ? She didnt , she threw it out even before it was formed properly

Sulo threw her out of her house expressing horror at her insensitivity .Varsha threw her child out of this WORLD .

Doesnt she need to be alone and think ?If Sulo takes her home at this juncture she will nEVER realise the enormity of her action , her mistake . She wants a corner to throw her bags and rest her butt when sasural doors r closed so she can pick the pieces and go on the next day .

She has always harped and harped about independence . True independence is accepting responsibility of ur actions . If u missed pills , take responsibility for it and carry that pregnancy to term . If u abort ur baby and wreck ur marital life with ur stubbornness , accept responsibility for that too .Dont run and bother ur old parents who need peace in old age .They did their bit , their old bones r tired .Carry ur baggage .Dont use them cleverly under the demand that but parents must love UNCONdITIONALLY .

Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago

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