Kools Commentary : Sep 27 PR - Page 8

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Kool, am not haranguing but I find the change in your stand surprising. Your commentary is not just intelligent and very funny -- full marks to you for that -- there is a strong moral fibre in you which I find very appealing, and because of which you side with the good (against the bad) in the end. Even though I have differed from your views, I have always appreciated your sense of fairness.
I agree gray characters are more interesting. I don't know why good people have to be humourless, though. But Dharmesh has gone beyond gray. He is framing an innocent man. He is allowing him to be charged with murder. Going by PRland logic -- and logic in most soaps -- a charge is equal to conviction. What if he Manav is sentenced to death? (No court will convict a man like this but am going just by soapland formula.) You began by liking him, which is fine, and then when you found he was framing Manav, you rightly went against him. Now you say you like him. Like a man who can coldbloodedly frame an innocent man? No that is not like you.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Kool di, great Commentary but wasn't that impressed by yesterday's episode except for the entire setup of satish's conflict of thoughts.

The journalist angle didn't impress me much coz the reporter came with his own set of preconceived notions. It was biased journalism from the first take itself. Journalism isn't based on opinions and this guy surely had too many. Agreed that reporters are supposed to ask hard questions but if your questions are already showing leanings then the answers too will be defensive and given with resistance. News is about fitting in all the information and angles together and let the reader decide and not serve it with one's own purpose. Here it was an crassly attempted socialistic one. And just because others do not have the basic common sense to do two plus two four...i wouldn't credit the journo to have extra...he just stated the plain obvious.

Ajit and his set of bad background actors seem to be doing a comedy circus morcha. The labourers need to first empathise at a personal level with manav's position to go ahead and protest with conviction. Mob sense prevails only when each member of it senses the unfairness at a personal level. The CVs should have shown Ajit mobilising the workers for the injustice which could have been meted on any one of them. Nobody in sane sense will protest on silly grounds of manav's loyalty to the company. Dharmu is apparently running a factory where the only loyal worker is in the jail.

I found the entire Dharmu-Archu scene hilarious…Dharmu seemed an angry class teacher complaining to the school princi Archu about a misbehaved class. I just hate the way archana is being shown as a working woman. She has been immensely dumbed down…and she looked dumbly arrogant when dharmu was giving his poignant filled sermon. Why can't she be made smart enough to think of a solution that can be beneficial for both parties.

Satish…muah to CVs for handling the character so well. You don't necessarily have to make the right decision always…it is the emotional conflict that brings out a decision that matters more. If tomorrow Satish takes a turnover on his decision he will be highly convincing and authentic. It is this kind of conflict I wanted for manav…if the Cvs had the rattled their brains the same way for manav then manav's character wouldn't have seemed the wreck that he is now. He too should have been shown in the conflict of zimmedari and love…instead CVs chose to play the stuck record of zimmedari. Manav's character's foundation was the strongest in the show but every layer after that narrowed the top. Now the character's base is strong but everything above it is ready to topple down. I give human conflicts and introspection a lot of importance...even more than the final outcome. The final decision is a result of compromises and weakness but the process of decision making is based on the entire value structure of that individual and weighing of all the strengths. I am not defending satish but it is not easy to do the right thing always. Wish they had shown a little conflict of thoughts for dharmu too…would have appreciated him a lot more today.

Personally I found the manav and the gundas scene a badly directed and cinemographed one. The first shot itself was appalling…the camera zoomed into manav…zoom ins potray a sense of dramatization and urgency. The zoom sabotaged the serenity that manav's expression and ambience had brought. If they had done the shot after and not before the throwing in of mushtaq it would have made sense but not otherwise. Anyway the entire scene was played out only to portray manav's holiness…even the camera angle implied it. The camera was placed at the level of the mushtaq looking above at Manav as if he is a supreme being. But I do hope that mushtaq's role is important in not only bringing Prakash into open but also becomes of important value in manav's resurrection. I want Mushtaq to give the hard lessons of life to manav coz he is definitely living in illusionary heaven of his.

This working period of the CVs in bringing ArMan together is seeming senseless and boring to me. Manav has been in jail for a week and the story hasn't moved forward even an inch. And yes lastly they maybe the most doomed couple…but when you have the feeling of love in you then you feel warm even in the cold. Ok I am biased and hopeless here…I can be extremely analytical about archana and manav individually but together I can never be. Because above all darkness there stands a beautiful feeling of love that they share and I want them to feel it together. Me a diehard romantic and ArMan fan through and through…I tolerate this crappy show everyday with the hope ArMan will be together one day. 😊

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Posted: 15 years ago
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@bonnefile: Oh my God!! Excellent review!!! I agree with all your points especially the last para.. Are you a journalist or something ha??? You're too good!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Kools

Pardon me my onetime bakwaas today and allow me to rant honestly about some of your stand- believing sincerely in your capacity to take the criticism objectively.

Right from my early days here on this site, I was bang impressed by the fairness of your ideas, thinking aloud- here is a person with no nonsense perception and absolute commonsense (this last contention, though relevant on those early days when the script was behaving believably, is not making any sensible 'application' to the current tracks, any longer). By this 'early days' I refer to your incisive and most correct observations on plausibility of Archana's and Sulochana's actions post dramatic 'thappad'. Then when you started criticizing them, again you were bang right on their 'foolery' and correct in your change of stance (though, with theirs and others' foolery, the script it self had started getting degenerated into the weirdest.) And that raised the original respect with the understanding to a refusal to buy nonsense, with flexibility to revalue the original favours.

But why this 'flexibility' is hardened into such stubbornness when you are defending characters shravani or Dharmesh? I feel you are deliberate when defending them- ignoring or minimizing purposefully their criticism even when their actions are out rightly deplorable, conveniently assigning the blame to the defect of scripting (if not in written words, at least by pregnant 'low' key treatment). Or pointing out their 'victimization' with magnified gusto with support from the same scripting but this time around, not allowing for the 'defect in the scripting' when in reference to the leads. Kools your writings are almost the last link to this once likeable serial (at least to me) and I do count on your fair, rightously flexible account and hence this disappointment.

Please, please don't take this in a kind of affront and allow me an honest criticism if I can be a friend who is not always expected to the flattery. You need not even answer as you know; I myself am not able to answer with the frequency or freely out of time constraints (even this post- out of rule- in during the lunchtime of earning hours!). Take care.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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But why this 'flexibility' is hardened into such stubbornness when you are defending characters shravani or Dharmesh? I feel you are deliberate when defending them- ignoring or minimizing purposefully their criticism even when their actions are out rightly deplorable, conveniently assigning the blame to the defect of scripting (if not in written words, at least by pregnant 'low' key treatment). Or pointing out their 'victimization' with magnified gusto with support from the same scripting but this time around, not allowing for the 'defect in the scripting' when in reference to the leads.
Kool, I tend to agree with these views. It is disappointing to see you defend Dharmesh and Shravani, and even Jayawant and his mother, while being so, so savagely hard on Armaan. Dharmesh ought to be shot for pushing Arjay marriage. He may like a hard as nails guy like Jay but he has no business tying an innocent girl to him. He is a very poor judge of character.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc

@bonnefile: Oh my God!! Excellent review!!! I agree with all your points especially the last para.. Are you a journalist or something ha??? You're too good!!!


No i m just a student but thanks for the compliment!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@bonnefile: 👏and🤗 to you...you explicitly and eloquently expressed my opinions....this show is boring for me and i dont feel the need to look at it...i will at some point only and if ArMan unite....until then i will have fun on the forum with my special gundis
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Posted: 15 years ago
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. And yes lastly they maybe the most doomed couple'but when you have the feeling of love in you then you feel warm even in the cold. 👏👏
Ok I am biased and hopeless here'I can be extremely analytical about archana and manav individually but together I can never be. Because above all darkness there stands a beautiful feeling of love that they share and I want them to feel it together. Me a diehard romantic and ArMan fan through and through'I tolerate this crappy show everyday with the hope ArMan will be together one day. 😊
very well written .
That is exactly why they cannot let go of each other ..
When Archcna is not with him then Manav just exists ....but he lives when Archana is with him . Any one would want to be with the person who makes him happy and that is why Manav , despite of being almost like a husband to Shravani , has never been able to conenct with her .
His eyes cannot stop following Archana because she gives him a feeling of happiness, excitement .He fancies her that is why he gets all excited and nervous when she is around ..With anyone else he is simply not interested ...just tagging along .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I skipped yesterday's episode because the story isnt moving forward ...
Reading the WU and commentary , I think Archu will be more .. um ... proactive in trying to get manav out of jail once she comes to know that even satish has ditched her(she has always trusted the guy a lot) , and Jay has duped her into signing the document ...

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tulsey

Tanya, do you have a viral infection that is not going away? Regardless, you should see your doctor. He should take your throat swab atleast. You definitely need to drink lots of liquid.

Where is NIKI, she is the doctor of PR forum.....
Is anyone keeping an eye on you as you are not feeling so well? I hope that your dad returns back soon.



Here is the doc Tulsey Di.

Okay here is the most important rule of medicine- more important than Hippocratic Oath.

"If you do not know the treatment or cannot diagnose the disease, simply say the golden words- I don't know. 😆 Don't misguide the patient by 'trial and error' medication or advise just to show that you know everything. Quietly send the patient to a better doctor. You will be doing a better service in this manner.'

So Tanya Di, Tulsey Di- I don't know,😆 and I really do not want to give any advice to Tanya Di, (especially since I do not know details of her condition). I would just say- go to the best doctor you can find. Since you are having ear problem also, better go to an ENT doctor, after all everything started with cold right? Take warm, nutritious food, not too heavy, and drink plenty of water. And take rest. And very important- do not rely on self medication.

It is better to be honest than harm the patient guys. After all, I'm only in third year right now. I know medicines that are given, but I don't think I'm the best authority to prescribe them now.

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