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SaffyFlower

@SaffyFlower

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Posted: 15 years ago

#81

And I loved yday's episode although I dint see it,I had to work for 30 hrs @ a stretch.

Jay showed all that Shravs shud have been,all that she lacks and why she lacks strength of character,I wud say any character @all -

He asked for permission to Mano to talk to archu even after being engaged

Told Archu,I do not suspect that u will commit adultery or anything - that is respect to a woman

and her nobility of character - shravs has none,no wonder she called archu bachalan despite knowing how much sanskaari she is

Told her,I know and acknowledge wat is in ur heart,u r human too with emotions

Told her,the precise problem is that we have to live in a society and have to respect its rules in order to get some respect back👏

And he told this to her,he never felt the need to blame manav here - although manav has a big bad hand in archu's state of emotions,the biggest nail in that coffin he dealt was tellin in teh divorce court that they r judaa huwa for life and their pyar is to dis kadar that he will do wat she says !! And u r saying he never encouraged her -u r wrong there,definitely Di.He has made sure that she knows HE LOVES HER,HE MISSES HER,LIFE WITH SHRAVS IS MISERABLE,THEY HAVE DOR.

Shravs has met her nemesis in Jay totally.There is no comparison sorry.Jay has strength of character and Shravs lacks totally in character.

If his greed for partnership was not there,he will break sagaai even after fallin in love with archu,even I wud do that -1) for the sake of his love for her 2) for both their self-respect

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SaffyFlower

@SaffyFlower

Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#82

Originally posted by: sherma
i agree, kooldi i hav mentioned before also tat u know d tings wich i want to tell u express it so well.i tink people shld b fair. its bad in any1 part to accept tat now,morally its not right.ARMAAN themselves brought shrav and jay in picture,i pitty bth of dem. i agree damodar shldnt hav let shrav stay in d house wen d marriage was called off.LAST week they showed dem sharing d same room fine dey sleep seperately but dey r in 1 room.wen people can gossip of armaan sharing an auto, do u tink people wil leave shravani wen marriage will b cancelled, she will b humilated very badly.i agree she got pregnant bef marriage, tat was a mistake,manav getting married to her cause its sachin baby.who will get married to shravani after armaan unite.

Damo has clearly said -shravs,u r my bahu for me as sachin's wife,u r here in this house for it -Damo knows he is overruled by savita and girish prefers to listen to savita -yes,he is not man of the house,his weakness of character

sherma ,tell me something-

shravni says - I don care abt tellin chawl ppl that I am 6 months pregnant and it showing,after the engagement

shravni says - I want mehndi rasam and dhoom dham shaadi with 8 month tummy

shravni says - I dont care wat anybody has to say abt me livin in with manav for 1.5 yrs,I have NO middle class morals - I was surprised that the chawl cats were not bitchin abt her and callin her names for that arrangement.

For her marriage is a formality,that is why she did not respect archu's wifely status those 3 months.Yes,ArMan threw away their marraige,but she never respected the marriage either,so she called archu the other woman,when she was still the legally wedded wife !

You think she is gonna be bothered abt the society after manav ditches her? if he chooses to not have any wind for morals,why shud she expect the middleclass soceity to give her respect?

We r obligated to behave in order to expect soceity not to point fingers.

She is not bothered abt finger pointing,she is only bothered abt gettin her man @any cost-then she will have to pay.It wasnt a month or 2 that savita had control over her thinking

shravs has been livin like that out of her own choice for 1.5 yrs-for her end justifies any means,the rule applying only to herself of course. archu/manav,they all shud be zimmedar,moral etc.

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

Stunner

+ 3

Posted: 15 years ago

#83

Originally posted by: SaffyFlower
Why ?😡 Why shud a woman PUT UP WITH ANY NONSENSE DISHED OUT TO HER and be GRATEFUL ? Is it a crime to exercise ur own mind and judge scenarios as they change and opine and put ur foot down ? If Archna CHOSE to put up with all the nonsense that Manav dished out to her and NEVER question him and BE GRATEFUL simply for being in her life , ITS HER PROBLEM , not A QUALITY . Shravani was willing to move aside , this DUO repeatedly bEGGED her to continue staying there saying ALL IS OVER BETWEEN THEM < THAT THE DIVORCE WAS JUST A FORMALITY NOW . And suddenly she started seeing that she was being royally cONNED , Archna was saying one thing on her face and running to take emotional control all along . So Shravni started FIGHTING . She has even blasted Manav for that , but being in love with him , she went easy on him , bas . I see NO reason she shud be GRATEFUL and accept any nonsense these two give her ..............NOBODY TOLD THEM TO DIVORCE < ITS THEIR DECISION . And if they did , ur argument applies to them more .........THEY BETTER HONOR IT . Why the hell shud Shravni BETTER BE GRATEFUL .Grateful my foot .😡😡
Shravni chooses to do pooja of Manav and hates it that Archu does that?? Why?? Why does she feel entitled to loving and Archu shud'nt,as per ur line of argument??

ArMan said we will divorce for u to give baby a name - they feel they have done their part. Shravni wrote ,I don wanna to be a burden on Manav - she is precisely being a burden on his heart and she knows it,Where is she keeping her word then?

I HATE the likes of Shravni precisely for this -

Manav is committing bigamy,she hates it-I agree with her stand.But I despise it when women blame women for all their problems.The problem here is Manav,but she refuses to face up to her man and tell him off - this shows shravs to be not only being a coward and bully by blaming archu all the time,I see it as a lack of integrity in the character.

And u said - why is'nt archu being manav's mistress,she is so shameless?

Well,Maanv already has a mistress in Shravs na - she is living there for 2 yrs w/o marriage,in his bedroom @midnite,2 yrs,not a month or 2 by mistake.Archu is nothing in comparison,Archu is like an infatuated kid lookin out for glances from her boy crush here .Shravs is the absolutely shameless one,and nobody is calling her lack of morals anything here - wat is REMOTELY aam ladki abt her then?

To her credit,archu wud'nt allow manav to make love to her w/o being properly married to him,she wud die than do that.That is her view of their pavitra rishta - that the rishta has been made by God due to their saat pheres but it will be pavitra with no adultery or fornication,now that they r legally separated

She is living there coz these people helped her to make an important decision of her life ..........Bearing the baby of her dead paramour . Marraige was promised to her and dont forget , carrying the pregnancy to term was dependent equally on Manavs promise to be there for her , as much as it was dependent on her own decision of not aborting . She is NOT living there for fun .

In that stay there I have NOT seen her throwing herself at Manav at all . She is restrained and pretty dignified . I have seen Archu throwing herself at Manav when she was legally wedded and also when she was NOT LEGALLY WEDDED .

Saying Archu is like an 'infatuated kid' reeks of BIAS , pardon me . I will NOT say Shravni is an 'infatuated kid' AT ALL .She is very much a woman .

If u feel Me calling her AAM is bias on my part I dont mind .But I will tell u one thing straight saffy , what is AAM ?

AAm is NOT wanting to share ur man with anyone

aam is fighting for ur man

Aam is being jealous enough to pick fights with the other woman but not fault ur own loved one

Aam is NOT WANTING TO BE MAHAAN

Aam is ALSO committing mistakes , like premarital sex or an unwannted pregnancy ...these mistakes happen in multitiples day by day , the only thing is they r HIDDEN

In this sense Shravni is ver COMMON and VERY AAM .

I admire ur faith in Archu that she wud NEVER LET MANAV MAKE LOVE TO HER , i dont share that faith anymore .She wud jump thru loops in fire for Manav is the story till now .If She is still a virgin , its more due to Manavs decency if u want the truth . She has constantly thrown herself in his arms , eyelocks , right till the day she went to say YES to Jay . Since Manav never attempted making love to her , we cant say anything about it .But I had NOT expected Archu to throw herself in Manavs arms AFTER saying yes to Jay . I had NOT expected Archu to flirt with Manav after divorce .I had NOT expected Archu to say to Jay HE IS MY DOST and to Sulo that I WONT BREAK UP WITH HIM . U urself said she is TRADITIONAL HINDUISM MODEL . Once u pledge via SAKHARPUDA in front of GODS , ex hubbies as DOST have no place in ur life and ARCHU KNOWS THIS CULTURE .So what gives u the confidence she wud not havesaid YES to Manav if he had attempted lovemaking , I dunno . Manav only has to say that he is spiritual Pati and he wants it and she will do it and give some BULL excuse to Sulochna .

The much badnaam pre marital Sex waali Shravni has not attempted anything , she is simply waiting for wat was promised to her .........Marraige , for which she took a life changing decision .

As far as ur Why shud Archu be mistress , Shravni hai na comment goes , I myself said Archu shud become like Shravni . I myself said currently Shravni is mistress . But ur description of 27 year old GHODI Archu as Infatuated KID with Crush is simply non acceptable to me at least . She knows EXACTLY what she is doing , She always knew it . The full world is a BULLY and Archu gets bullied and is soooooooo innocent is LAUGHABLE .

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SaffyFlower

@SaffyFlower

Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#84

Di,Shravs can live with her Dad much much better and give sachu far more comforts -she knows this -she said that when suggesting the new flat to Savita.Manav promised her marriage,she is engaged,so she shud go live there and that too for 2 yrs w/o marriage? After all they are in the same city,send u r car to savita to visit everyday if u consider her as saas !

She is there not for sachu's sake,but to be close to manav.TO his credit(only this one) Girish told her to come back home,but she said no,I wont leave this place bcoz if I am not physically present,Archu will win.So many of us r engaged,sorry,we don do that bfor marriage in order to keep an eye on our fiance !!!!!!!!!!!!!! We r not aam ladkis? We also feel jealousy but zindagi mein sab ki hadh ho tee hai.She has no thresholds in anything she does.

Just because she is a mother she is allowed to have no morals,no goodness,not care for even manav's feelings,she can call archu bad names anything goes?? Why?? And her havin pms(premarital sex) is something I have never attacked.

I am sayin why not live with her dad until marriage with dignity and still love manav,feel jealous,possessive,talk to him,date him?that is wat an aam ladki will do,sorry.She is looked low only bcoz of this actually,her livin there like that.Else,she wud have ovewhelmin suppport on her moral stand,right now her moral stand seems low coz she gives 2 hoots to followin anything middleclass moral like but accuses Archu of adultery,bachalan anything chalega.

I am not saying archu is not exonerated for her love for manav,and I am not sayin shravs is not entitled to love manav - but I am sayin what has she done to garner any credibility?

ArMan r regrettin their decision and realizin that they r in love,their weakness but still they will not commit physical adultery ever,am sure of that,and they r honest abt their love for each other to the world-but shravs feels no remorse abt anything she is doin,and I am not talkin abt the pms.

She actually shows that she doesnt care for even manav's feelings and his entitlement to a life of joy that he sees only in archu,shravs knows it v well,that bugs her the most actually.And she is not even married to him yet or sachu is not his baby,how fair is it to make him do this?

And why blast archu for it all,even talk to her-her love for manav doesnt not justify her hypocrisy in that -as I said she reaches out to archu actually to solve her problems whenever her love is @the brink of defeat,that is why she goes and blasts her,else she ignores her totally - that is nothing innocent in her.She knows archu wud do anything for manav and she wud use her then,thatz all.

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SaffyFlower

@SaffyFlower

Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#85

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Ok Niki . Actually I said all this coz I wanted to hear this from someone else . These r exactly my thoughts that I shud nOT give up due to someones evaluation . I will complete the book now .

Di😲😲😲

For all the encouragement u give us,u r sayin this😲 I dint know u were writin a book,sorry,havent gone thru all the posts yet - congratulations😊signed copy for us,wokay rockstar😆😆

is it like swami and his friends or tom sawyer??

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gaurimisha

@gaurimisha

Inactive

+ 5

Posted: 15 years ago

#86

Originally posted by: vidyasu1
saffy i am a female like most you. I came in only because the soap brought up social, livelihood issues, and I was dismayed by the majority reaction to these issues.I seen an ideological gulf between people like me and the younger lot who have obviously grown up without seeing hardships. I guess that is natural. Sass-Bahu stuff does not interest me. And yes, why are females portrayed as either totally dumb or totally wicked on most soaps? Why can't we have an intelligent female lead who is sensitive and yet thinks clearly and is able to formulate mutually acceptable solutions? I have not heard one intelliegent syllable from archana whose idea of work is merely to hold a folder.

Pardon me.I belong to the younger lot and have ideological differences.That doesnot imply its so obvious tht i hav grown up without hardships.From the day I've started understanding,the only thing I hav done is fight against hardships.I stay very much in India.Aware of everything.How a poor man is burdened and what a job means to him.Poverty and sympathy go hand in hand.Being poor is a curse in India.People only sympathise with u.But sympathies dont benefit anyone.Infact,its this sympathy thing that has led to ppl resorting to beggary as a source of income.

Manav is not at liberty to quit for his personal reasons,without a single thot abt his family and give his boss gaalis when he throws him out.If he actually bothers so much abt how his family will suffer,I cant find a damn reason why he should hav offered to quit the job for Archana.When he wants to quit for his stupid reasons,did he ever give a thought if the company will be at loss or not?If an employee is entitled to do as per his will,so is the management.And Dharmesh is fair specifically.

I think u misunderstood my posts.I was pointing out only what they hav shown in PR and said repeatedly,this is not the real scenario.Given the things they showed on the show and based stricly on that,Manav is professionally wrong in calling Dharmesh names.And Dharmesh is fair enough.

Archana is not an intelligent female lead.She never was.The female lead is sketched out like this in the show...from day one.The why can only be answered by producers of the telly world.

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SaffyFlower

@SaffyFlower

Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#87

GM,both u and Vidya sound justified😕me wearin flip flops first time and they r soo comfortable😆

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Nikita Lakhe

@nikitagmc

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 15 years ago

#88

Originally posted by: SaffyFlower
GM,both u and Vidya sound justified😕me wearin flip flops first time and they r soo comfortable😆

Me too... hehehe... 😆

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SaffyFlower

@SaffyFlower

Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#89

picky nikki 😆werez the 51st part yaar - actually not able to locate ur thread for the 50th,can u send the link?

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gaurimisha

@gaurimisha

Inactive

+ 5

Posted: 15 years ago

#90

saffy,vidyasus' posts were very informative.But such things hav not been shown in PR.And I dont assume in Manavs' favour as he is poor.The day we actually see concrete evidence of unfairness done to him,regarding this issue,I'll support him.As of now,I cant find or see one.

Even today,if u see the Human rights lady came and said"U cant throw the GAREEB workers out"....it sounded as if being Gareeb is gud enuf qualification for any worker around.So much so for this gareeb-sympathy that many gareeb ppl hav started to enjoy earning a living,actually doing no labour but catering to the sympathy of the people.

Rasika knows laws.Doesnt Dharmeshs' lawyer know it as well?15 yrs in mahila samiti,hence she's know-it-all on every law....why get a lawyer degree?Why not work for mahila samiti n become a lawyer instead.Utter Rubbish.

I repeat ..my views are only specific to the way they show this whole worker-machine-poverty issue in PR.Given the facts and circumstances of what is happening in the show and not in the real world.Though I dislike people who bring emotional baggage with them to their workplace,in both cases.

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