Originally posted by: nikitagmc
Okay, i don't how many people will agree with me....
Call Manav stupid, dumb, brainless, spineless anything... I'll not say anything, but unfaithful... I really don't agree.
Archu was never unfaithful, I agree. Even when she came to know that her husband was a pimp, she couldn't help thinking about him. But you have to also agree that a lot had happened which made her refuse Satish'a proposal. She had seen Manav's goodness, his calmness in the midst of the whole storm, attempts that he made to get back to her... which made her wonder whether she was really doing the right thing by leaving him. And she gave these same reasons to Satish and everyone else when she broke the marriage. Her marriage with Satish was an attempt to move forward in life. But she could not imagine herself moving in life with anyone else.
The same thing is here with Manav too. When his relationship with Archana hit the rocks, he knew he could not move on in life with anyone else. So he decided that he would be a tissue paper and got ready to use his wasted life for saving Shravani's honour. He said these exact words to his dad... and these same words to Shravani as well... you are making a compromise for the baby and I'm making one for my brother.
Manav isn't marrying to move forward in life. He himself admits that he will never be able to forget Archu or love someone else... that he would be unhappy all his life. But look at his circumstances. He has created this mess around him in which he committd to a girl who didn't abort coz of his promise. If she goes to abort now, her life will be in danger (now don't think I'm with him in this decision, I'm just seeing things through his point of view). If he goes with Archu, his family will be ruined, Shravani will be dishonoured, he will lose his brother's last memory and will be branded guilty of running away from his promise and ruining a girl's life. If he goes with Shravani, Archu ends up as the victim
About not prioritising Archana, I too was very angry with him, that how could he forget that she is his responsibility as well. But it was my Mom who brought me to earth. She said,
"what he is doing is wrong, but not unexpected. Tell me, which boy will leave his family of 31 years which has lovingly brought him up to be with his wife of 6 months.. just like he loves Archana he loves his family a lot too... in a spontaneous moment any man will choose to stand by his family... he may later ponder and think and feel guilty and go back to his wife, but any man will first choose his family. And its not just the case with Manav. If Sulochana had had a hear attack ad asked Archu to marry Satish or MAnav hadn't saved Varsha then even Archana might have said yes to marriage with Satish."
At the moment I am also angry with Manav for giving preference to responsibility, he is doing injustice, but I don't feel he is unfaithful.
Please don't throw tomatoes on me now. Jus my point of view, I guess everyone is going to have different opinions on this.
Nikita
I did not call Manav unfaithful for 'moving on in life' or loving another woman besides Archu ...........neither for the reason that your mother [ rightly] gave about him choosing his family over her .
I call him unfaithful coz he put sindoor in the maang of Shravani........a symbol of matrimony in front of his undivorced wife , defying a court order .
Had Archu picked up the phone and told the judge about what happened , and those present wud have been forced to testify , Manav wud have gone to jail for attempted bigamy and defying a court order .........a court order that had ordered him to WORK ON HIS MARRAIGE , not to do EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE.
It is simply unacceptable that he did this rubbish in front of his undivorced wife . It simply isnt the decent thing to do . Common decency the man didnt show in not wanting to do it in front of his UNDIVORCED wife . Common decency demands that he waits for three months before he does it .
What was the hurry , ha ? Any real hurry ? Except for Savita's emotional outburst and attempt to show how she has her son in her hand and how she favours Shravni to impress Girish ? This 31 year old didnt know this is it ? He is 31 years old ......but he cannot garner enough ethics or guts to draw up straight and tell Savita , I am legally not divorced yet , this doesnt look good , even Shravni desrves better , not the status of a bigamy wife which literally speaking means MISTRESS. All this sindoor thing amounts to nothing till legally the divorce doesnt happen .........ur uneducated but Girishji will understand what I am saying , so NO i wont put sindoor now , after three months I will marry her properly and legally .
Now this is being a man . No one cares now if he has done this to move on or not ...........we r saying that do it in the proper way , give both the women there some respect you moron . [ these words hover on my lips for Manav when i think of that scene , sorry .] The unfaithfulness is to the concept of marraige .......not to ARchana . Respect the sanctity of marraige , till one is dissolved do not do another one .
About Archna wud do same thing if Sulochna wud have heart attack : Really ? R we that progressive in serials to show this ? Precisely this question I had asked in Degradatiion of Women by PR post ..........will we ever see a scene where the girl , yet undivorced , gets sindoor put in her maang by another guy right in front of husband , to placate her mom ?
Indian audiences will throw tomatoes at the man calling him impotent to take this shit from a 'mere woman ' and call the woman a prostitute for defiling the sanctity of marraige !
Infact dear I insist as a viewer to PR creatives to show this . I wud applaud them . Not that I wud applaud thwe woman for her ethics ..........for what goes for the man goes for the woman too is my point . Real Equality , thats what I am saying .
He will choose his family as he lived with them for 31 years over a wife of 6 months is indeed understandable ..........I do not dispute that . But then why was such a hoo haa made when Archana chose to go with Sulochna after a 15 day marraige ...........a mother who looked after her for 26 years ? Can this same understanding be given to a woman too ?
No na ? That was considered as shocking , sacrilege , not showing trust on Manav what not ! Why is a woman supposed to choose her in laws automatically over her blood family ...........why is it simply taken it for granted that she must do it simply coz its our culture and she is a woman ? See how outargeous this idea sounds ?
Will we see these dialogues in this serial ? Even today , people keep saying , still Sulochna has not apologised , still Sulochna is a dominating woman who drowned Manohars voice and dragged her daughter home ! 26 years she looked after that child and she is not supposed to do that or even have an opinion other than her husband Manohar about her childs welfare ! Her opinions about Archanas state of happiness did not match her husbands ..........he gave up too soon and settled for less and decided that a garage mechanic wud be enough for his ninth standard girl who wud rot without a marraige , while Sulochana did not want to give up coz she was confident she wud find a guy like Satish who wud make her daughter happy .......she was not ready to settle for less and if Archu didnt get married she was ready to give her support ..........who was the better parent here ?
But she was not hailed as the better parent . She was hailed as the woman with the 'weird obstinacy ' and as 'dominating ' . Pray , who did she try to 'dominate ' ? No one ! All she did was try to have a say in things and people were shocked coz girls party and so many tevar ..........such attitude !
The message is clear in this show : A woman cant dare to have an attitude ..........attitude is only the privilege of a boy's party . Savita's attitude is rightful as she is the boy's mom . A woman shud not be attached to her blood family of 26 years and trust her husband whom she barely knows , the boy will however not give up his family of 31 years . That is perfectly normal it seems . A woman's right to attitude , spunk , r dependent on her capacity to either be filthy rich like Rasika [ then the girls party can show some attitude ] or on the gender of her offspring ..........if it is a male , thenn as a boys mom she can act uppity , have opinions ......like Savita .
But Sulochanas and Archanas r wrong . They desrve such emotional flogging that Archu has to watch sindoor being put in another womans maang and Sulochna has to helplessly watch her daughters tears .
It makes me sick , this message .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 15 years ago
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