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Posted: 15 years ago
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@Tanyaz:
Thank thank God, finally you belieeve that divorce will not happen....
You are going in wrong direction, i dont think that strong romantic scene would chanage Mnavs behaviour.. ArMan love was never like that....
When he will see that Archu is still at least willing to take care of his family and he will get some lectures from Damodar Baba to neutralise savitas lectures, he will change.... Remember the article, time heals every wounds and similarly their wounds will be healed and as time will come closer for archu to leave manav, manav will realize how much he loves her.... Why r u not understanding this simple thing, i am not optimistic or positive, infact i am sure and its very much possibility......
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I am just getting frustrated with Archana getting this much abused . even if she neglected Manav for some time , still this punishment is way way too much.
Love is great , but self respect also should mean a lot to someone like her . These days she keeps compromising on that .
That is the reason why sometimes I talk negative about her going to stay with her husband . The thought of Savita at her worse ever mission " break Archana ' , Manav hating her veryexistance ( at least that is what it is right now ), it makes me so frustrated ....
I know it's a show , eventually her kurbaanis will pay off ....but the journey to that goal would be tough very tough .
I just don't want Archana to give a wrong message to girls out there , that is to take unlimited crap from women like Savita just because you love her son.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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ya...i hate this manav..infact i hate all the consequences going on between the couple...

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Posted: 15 years ago
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@koolsadhu: Of course this time I agree with you... this track wud have saved both me and Manav from a lot of heartbreak and created a lot less controversies and debates on this forum..😆
@bollywoodcrazed: I agree with you as well... in fact I understand his anger completely... but I really don't get it why NO ONE is blaming Girishji... one really big blunder by creatives!!! Maybe they want to show that Manav is so concerned abt shravani and the baby that he does not want to bring up this issue right now and just avoid any future damage from happening.... God knows..
As for Manav.. even I know and as it has been shown in the serial... everyone else knows too that he is still in love with Archana but is not willing to accept it.. he is angry, hurt and stubborn. That love shows itself in 'reflex' situations, like when Archana is uncomfortable in the train, or when she falls on his feet (he picks her up instead of walking off), bas I hope the creatives keep highlighting this aspect again and again... it wud give some strength to his character and his feelings for her... that despite all the hurt and anger, he still cares for her and cannot see her hurt or in a problem. As the title song says:
'hum ek doore ke sahare rahenge, nazdeekiya ya ho dooriyan, bas pyar hi rahega darmiyan..'
For instance: Imagine Archu goes to his house and comes late home after night school (say 10 'o' clock) due to extra classes... and Manav and Baba are all worried and tensed.... as soon as she returns home... Manav blasts her right, left and centre as to how worried they all were, why she didn't call him if she was going to be this late, there was no need for her to wander alone on the streets at this time... next time she shud call him if she was going to be late.. he wud come to the station to escort her home safely... and so on.. or maybe someone eveteases her on the street and he thrashes the guy black and blue...It would do justice to the track, his present angry state of mind... and also show the audience and Archu and hopefully Shravani as well that the loving and protective Manav is very much there. Even I don't expect Manav to be teary-eyed and weeping for Archana, nor do I want him to be mahaan or God to always be the better person , it wud be HIGHLY unrealistic in my opinion... but I want the loving aspect of his character to be portayed as well.
Edited by nikitagmc - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@Tanyaz: I agree with you, no woman shud take so much crap from a woman like Savita for her love... but as it is said, 'There's no running away from evil', avoiding Savita is not the solution, tmrw if they meet in the market and Savita says something again.. will Archana run away from there too leaving people thinking that she is the guilty party... I want Archu to speak up for herself and face Savita boldly... like she did when Savita spoke bad about Satish. I want her to clearly say that you keep your dirty ideas with you.. cos my thinking is not as cheap as yours...!! Infact after this whole tamasha resolves and Archana and Manav get reunited in true sense.. I want this change in Archana.. she will have to be strong in order to live in that house with a witch like Savita... cos it wudn't be fair that she shud lose out on a golden husband like Manav and loving in laws like Baba, Kaka and Vandu cos of an evil MIL like Savita, else it wud be the victory of Savita's evil against the Deshmukh's family's goodness and Manav's love... plus once these matters are sorted and the trust is re-established I'm sure they will all support her like before.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tanyaz

I am just getting frustrated with Archana getting this much abused . even if she neglected Manav for some time , still this punishment is way way too much.

Love is great , but self respect also should mean a lot to someone like her . These days she keeps compromising on that .
That is the reason why sometimes I talk negative about her going to stay with her husband . The thought of Savita at her worse ever mission " break Archana ' , Manav hating her veryexistance ( at least that is what it is right now ), it makes me so frustrated ....
I know it's a show , eventually her kurbaanis will pay off ....but the journey to that goal would be tough very tough .
I just don't want Archana to give a wrong message to girls out there , that is to take unlimited crap from women like Savita just because you love her son.

EXACTLY .
No husband is worth it ................to take this much horrendous vile abuse and torture from his mother . So the husband is a saint and the mother in law is a monster ..........so ???? The saint is living with the monster and will continue doing so , right ? He knows his mom is a perfect shrew but he will not leave her on any point , so what value does his sainyliness have ? In the process an innocent girl's entire life will be burnt to ashes ! The boy's mom has lived her life and the saint boy is used to her ways as it is his lot in life and for a larger part of the day he will be out of the house , but what about the girl in the mother in law's clutches the full day long ?
Manju was right when she told dumb Archana that Abuse is NOT necessarily physical , what Savita did was horrendous abuse . Manju's personal purpose in that police complaint may be wrong but this poice complaint should have been done LONG BACK . It shud have been done on the day SAvita stood on the road in front of the Karanjkar home and told everyone by collecting a crowd that Archana was a girl of a cheap character , a prostitute . Someone like Vinod shud have dragged Manav down there from his garage to witness the scene . And asked him if he had objections to them calling the police .
Manav being totally unaware of that abuse is the thing that will go against Manav in future if this rubbish continues .............just as his forgiveness of Girish will anger viewers . He twisted Archana's arm and asked righteously if he had ever treated her badly in his house . No one from the Karanjkars told him how Savita threatned them for jewels , abused Archana in every public place , abused Satish who was thoroughly decent at his work place where he had worked with his head held high for so many months ..........no one told him that his mother was uncontrollable and if he was blisfully unaware of it all the time IT WAS HIS FAULT TOO . Sachin wasn't unaware ..............Manav was . It is a flaw in his character .
And now Manav will treat Shravni the martyr who got impregnated before marraige as if she is some queen and order Savita around to take care of her . Savita too may do that as she always wanted this rich bahu . And she had called Archu badchalan ? Will anyone ever throw this in Savitas face in public ? And I hope Manav stands near and listens to it .
Archu who inspite of being married is still a virgin is badchalan and Shravani is a martyr ! What an irony ! She turned into a martyr only coz Sachin died an untimely death ! Would Manav had married her by divorcing Archana if this same situation wud have been there ?
So he is marrying her only coz circumstances r diffrent ...........he is NOT EXACTLY MARRIED TO ARCHANA HIS DIVORCE IS GOING ON AND HE IS FREE . THE PREGNANCY HAS MADE SHRAVANI A MARTYR INSTEAD OF A FAST GIRL COZ HIS BRO DIED .
And in all this where is the title song ..........that the pavitra rishta is man ka.........of the heart ?That divorce papers or circumstances CANNOT BREAK IT ?
The serial belies the title song .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Savita has called archana badchalan again and again infront of Manav and his family and more viciously behind their back also.
Yes, it is time someone asks her is sachin a saint ? is shravani a saint? Who is really the badchalan, manhoos (how I hate this word!!!)
God, I have started hating Manav now not because he behaves badly with Archana but because he cant see through his mothers dramas and has started subscribing to her evil views himself
I hate this Manav for being so naive when it comes to his family. Now Savita and Sachin have become martyrs and saints!!!!
I hate him for not saying a word to Girish about his part in Sachin's death. It is Girish who blows now hot now cold and he was the one who gave the final push in a way.
Archana is a convenient scapegoat for everyone coz she is a weakling and cant shout back. So everyone is picking on her now. A big big price she is paying for being confused and foolish. Bou of couse, Savita with her sharp tongue, her coarse language, her pettiness and love for material things which are not hers is a saint and a victim.
How I hate Manav now!!! To think that I loved him just a few days ago....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@vishwap: Savita has called Archna 'badchalan' in front of Manav 2 times... the first time she did it, he shouted at her so badly that the whole family was shocked.. the second time, at the engagement- there we all know what happened- Damodar slapped Savita and things went out of control...
Manav isn't really subscribing to his Mom's evil views.. its rather a case of his own brains malfunctioning as of now... he did not start hating Archana under Savita's influence but after the phone call which was made to Sulochana, the decision to marry Shravani was not cos his mother told him to.. but cos he felt it was his 'responsibility' (which I don't think it is by the way), he was concerned about Shravani and her honour.. the scene where he imagines Shravani being taunted by people and the scene where he pleads Girish not to take a wrong decision show this clearly, and hence this decision, cos Manav is not a person who blindly sticks to Savita's decision.. from lying at his own marriage to trying to hook Sachin with Shravani, he protests her whenever he thinks she is wrong.
About Girish, I agree. Why the hell is no one blaming him...
agree with your views about Sachin and Shravani.. they are not martyrs, I hope time and Manav will do justice to Archana.
And come on... give the story some time... right now the creatives have completely messed up the story.. hopefully when they start clearing this mess, you will fall in love with Manav again.. he's a nice guy, protective and loving, but right now is taking some wrong decisions.. not to mention unaware about many things(which many believe is a flaw..) above all a victim of circumstances... give it some time, when he comes to know about Savita, he will surely do justice to Archana.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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It seems as if manav does not want to believe that Archu is innocent in same way as Archu did, but Archu still had feeling that manav cant do this as she said that my heart does not believe that manav is wrong.... But, it seems that mnav has left his heart in jail or burnt it with sachin... I have allways supported manav , but now i think that he is OVERDOING this.... He is right in his way, but not completely or can say that he is wrong, but not completely....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@guptill: Actually the problem is we have no idea what the creatives want to show is going on in Manav's mind.. they are not making it clear... they shud have shown him having some sort of conversation with Tarun or his Dad or even himself.. that wud have made it so clear... right now we can only guess what is going on in his mind... this is what i think:

1.)Archana didn't make the complaint, Manjusha did, I saw her myself in jail, but Archana was involved in it, just like the rest of her family was. (He doesn't know she didn't even know abt the complaint cos Varsha didn't say that and so he feels betrayed and hurt)

2.) I will try to forget her, and I hate her.. (deep down he knows he will only 'keep trying' and still loves her)
3.) I have to get divorced so that I can get married to Shravani and prevent any further chaos in my family's life.
And yeah Zeeshu, you're right, Manav burnt his heart in the prison, he's really hurt and angry.. actually its more of his pent up feelings that are firing back now... as regards to Archana having the feeling that Manav is innocent but not vice versa... Manav had the advantage that his past behavior with Archana had been good... she had seen his good points regularly and had always felt amazed that the Manav that Ajit introduced to her was completely different.. but Manav had reasons to feel that Archana did not love him.. she was rude and unresponsive.. she hated him enough to make the complaint (yu remember the blasting she gave him when he came to her office once) the only point in her favour was her behavior with his family, but that was washed off when Sulochana said that Archana had nothing to do with him or his family.. no concern at all and was looking to start life afresh... so you see... its difficult for this heartbroken Manav to trust Archu unless he sees her love and concern and realises that she really has loved him all these months.
Give some time to the character yaar.. remember how we all hated Archana like hell earlier, but now we all sympathize with her.. its gonna turn the same way again.
Edited by nikitagmc - 15 years ago

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