US: apparently only place to improve your life.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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So in this episode Sachin says that all his dreams are shattered. He was just starting to stand on his own two feet but now he can't. Shravani has showed him the right path and now that path has ended.
Is it me or can everyone else see that America never was Sachin's only hope. I fail to understand why Sachin can't finish his education in India and make something of himself there. Ok so Shravani showed him the right path, but now that the America door has closed does that mean he's going to turn back to his old bad ways?
I can understand why the wedding being called off is a big deal for him. But shouldn't he just work his way up to the top again? Shouldn't this just be his motivator?
What Girishji did was not good, but I can see his point of view. Especially, with Savita aai being the way she is. Hopefully that comes out someday. That will really be a key point in all these misunderstandings.

Anyway, I think this is really ridiculous how they show that America was the only place of self redemption for Sachin and then kill him off.

Any thoughts?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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very good point. if he is a good student and can get accepted to a US college he can do just as well in India. A better option would have been if he had told girish that i will prove myself in India and then if he could consider it and allow them to marry but give some time b4 making the decision. Also girish should have been clear about why he called off the wedding. I don't blame him for what he did. Here we see that sachin who is educated and can make something of himself is not good enough for girsish...so how can we expect soluchana to be happy with manav (I know this is a different topic all together, and i'm not trying to defend her) but the point is that SAVITA is the reason girish said no along with other things but i think that these things could have been taken care of if savita wasn't so evil...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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this topic!!!!!!!
I can write a book on it. I also fail to understand that why people think that America is the way to improve the life. I live in USA since i was a teenager, but i see my cousins have more fun and have a very good life in India. I think where the family is life is good.
America is not paved with gold. There is poverty here and there is struggle here.One reason i see lots of young couple or singles like it here because there is more freedom. No parental or in law pressure. If one is edjucated life is good even in India. There are more collages in India than anywhere else in the world. America does give second chance to the loosers in schools which is harder to get in India with out hefty amount of donations. I am a gujju and most of them are just literally dying to come to America at any cost. I think same goes for Punjabies. I have yet to figure out why????
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Posted: 15 years ago
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It was wrong to show that a young fellow like Sachin got so disillusioned with life only because his Visa to US got cancelled . He got drunk and started to talk like a total looser .
His big brother is way better . He is not educated but now because of his hard work he owns his own business .
Sachin did not even have to look anywhere else . Even working with his brother would have been better than to give up on his life and future .
And Girish was 100 % justified that he does not want his daughter to live with savita . Savita only wants house , car money etc etc .She clearly said tha tshe only wants Shravani's money , that's it . He saw himself how she was cursing her bahu . But then could they not live seperately in India .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: cimba

this topic!!!!!!!
I can write a book on it. I also fail to understand that why people think that America is the way to improve the life. I live in USA since i was a teenager, but i see my cousins have more fun and have a very good life in India. I think where the family is life is good.
America is not paved with gold. There is poverty here and there is struggle here.One reason i see lots of young couple or singles like it here because there is more freedom. No parental or in law pressure. If one is edjucated life is good even in India. There are more collages in India than anywhere else in the world. America does give second chance to the loosers in schools which is harder to get in India with out hefty amount of donations. I am a gujju and most of them are just literally dying to come to America at any cost. I think same goes for Punjabies. I have yet to figure out why????



You bring up a very good point. Its as if people think coming to America automatically their life is made. I was born in US, we moved to India for 6 years and then we moved back. So i've seen both worlds, I dont' really think you can say gujju's or punjabies are dying to be here, there are those people in each community. In the US they have a lot of opportunities for people, but that doens' t mean they are just handed to you, from everyday household work to work in the office, you are more than likely doing it all by yourself, the work never ends. I"m not saying people in India have it made, my point is that US is not portrayed by Indian media correctly. Just like in this show too, where apparently Sachin's life has no meaning because he can't go the US. Is this what is contributing to idea that once you come to America you get instant success?

Well I suppose you can't do anything about the Sachin dying track. However, Girishji needs to come clean about why he wont' let Shravani marry Sachin. Thats one thing that really needs to happen.
Edited by kshre25 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Agree it wasnt end of the path.. He could have fought his way back to up as Shravani was there to support him n wouldnt marry ne1 else except him he shouldnt have broken down.. Infact it would ahve been gr8 to see him work harder to get up.. Infact i dint get why he wanted to go to US on 1st place there is soo much in India itself to study... But anyways i guess they just wanted to kill of this character...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I agree with you. I really don't understand why America is always just picturized as instant success.

I guess I don't know both sides of the story, I was born in and still live in the US, and have never been to India. I can still say though, coming here does not guarantee instant success. My own parents and aunts/uncles came here in the 80s/early 90s and are now finally seeing the fruits of their labor. They've had to go through laborious jobs, long hours, lots of failures, lots of expenses and less than desirable conditions to get to where they are. It doesn't just come in a snap. Its just always frustrated me when it is portrayed that Americans have the easy life. Yes, maybe materially we are blessed, and I am very thankful for it, but we have to go through the same **** everyone else does in the world. Even if you are born here, success just doesn't come to you, I can tell you of a thousand failure stories. You have to work harrrrrrd, just like everywhere else. I'll give a personal example: In order to be one of the top ten students at our very prestigious high school (which is grades 9-12 and there are about 600 students in each year), you have to give up a lot. To stay in the top ten my own life has become a cycle of homework and studying, and the same goes for the other nine students. Yet we all do it because we want to be successful, and if you don't work hard you won't get it. Atlhough, I guess I present a bias in a sense, because to me success may be something different than it is to someone else. I guess that maybe where my family is is what the Deshmukh's and Karanjkar's would see as success, but considering that I already have it, I aim higher. Its all very subjective.
I don't have anything against people wanting to come here, but I just think that its horrible when they're shown fake things about instant success and come here only to have their dreams shattered.
On this actually related to the show: I understand that Shravani leaving him would make Sachin upset, but getting his visa rejected? Yeah, I get that he would be sad and all but come on, there must be some wonderful institutions of higher studies in India, I'm sure of it. I agree with another poster that in comparison to that Manav is certainly a stronger character, his wife left him, his family went to jail, and now his brother will be dead, but atleast he won't abandon his responsibilites towards his family (I hope). If Sachin thought of it like that, then he would realize that he is lucky to still have the freedom of opportunity even in India. He could've still studied more, gotten a nice job and home, and married his lady love. There was no need to give up like that. He wasn't responsible for feeding everyone and meeting their needs, he could have worked hard and found his success. I agree that this temporary defeat should have motivated him to do even more. Where there's a will there's a way. Sachin always seemed very jhakaas, so I think that this was just a lame excuse to add more drama.
It feels so nice to be on winter break and to be able to come make nice loooong posts on the PR forum. 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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You bring up a very good point. Its as if people think coming to America automatically their life is made. I was born in US, we moved to India for 6 years and then we moved back. So i've seen both worlds, I dont' really think you can say gujju's or punjabies are dying to be here, there are those people in each community. In the US they have a lot of opportunities for people, but that doens' t mean they are just handed to you, from everyday household work to work in the office, you are more than likely doing it all by yourself, the work never ends. I"m not saying people in India have it made, my point is that US is not portrayed by Indian media correctly. Just like in this show too, where apparently Sachin's life has no meaning because he can't go the US. Is this what is contributing to idea that once you come to America you get instant success?

Kshre25,
Right on the money. People work so hard in America for what they gain in return. India is more of what i can get out of my maid and what she/he can do instead. People do have it made there. Specially women , Maids do most of the work and take naps in the afternoon and still they think life is better somewhere else.... Lots of Man on the other hand also still live in the ancestral home so no morgages to worry about and slide right in family business so need to look for jobs. I am not saying for all but that is the story for lots.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Well,GirishJi actually made it clear that SACHIN SHRAVANA'S WEDDING was a YES from His side ON THE CONDITION THAT SHRAVANI WILL SETTLE in USA WITH HER HUSBAND But in this case Sachin did not get the Visa n once he's in Crime book he wouldn't get it in future either..... I think AS A FATHER HE HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE HIS DAUGHTER"S FUTURE.....
As far as Sachin's behaviour is concerned, I THINK THEY HAVE SHOWN A PRACTICAL THING.... A PERSON WHO"s SUPPOSED TO GO ABROAD n HIS WEDDING HAS BEEN FIXED BASED UPON THAT Woul behave like that after coming to know that all has been destroyed for 1 police Complaint........ IT"S EASIER TO SAY But If it happens to somebody they're CRUSHED..... It's not at all that easy to revive yourself at that disastrous moment... Remember NOT 1 BUT 2 BIG DIASTERS HIT SACHIN So he LOST HIS BALANCE n Hence he was walking 'uncontrollably' on the streets and that's why he got hit... He Did not commit Suicide..... I think Whatever they've shown was quite the way a person would've behaved in Sachin's Position..... He was killed is another fact... any person can be killed in a Random Road accident....
Edited by iamindian - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Now a days people come from America and otherparts of world to study in India... It is said if you pass the CBSE - Indian syllabus then all the other syllabus becomes easy... Indian studies are more renowned and well know in the world.
Then why to go to US and study...
It was just a reason so that they can kill the character to bring in new twist....

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