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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: ekomas

Thank you everyone. Seems like I have been living a very sheltered life and so are my kids. I stand corrected - thank you once again.

It’s not just you. It’s a shock to the system for anyone. I felt the same seeing kids today and I’m still a millennial myself 🙈 Some kids these days play on iPads before learning to walk lol

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmaanixx

Learning about their bodies, yes, but sex education? Really? What schools are teaching five year olds about sex ed??

Here in Europe its usually nothing technical for preschoolers, but they do learn that there are body parts which they should not let be touched by strangers and so on. But sex ed generally still happens too early for my taste.

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Originally posted by: asmaanixx

In Canada, there was a motion made to the education system where kids in the first grade were to be taught various elements pertaining to the human body. However, many parents protested against this and even went as far as pulling their children out of classes. Needless to say, another revision was implemented.

Learning about one's body and sexuality is important but five years is far too young for such matters. Safety tips such as speaking up if you are being touched sexually against your will is very important and useful for children. But for them to learn about sex itself - no!

In regards to Arya, she can pick up on romantic relationships from any media source. Shows, movies, even music videos and songs are predominantly occupied with love than anything else.

Where I live you cannot pull a kid out of school legally. So I can do nothing but pay attention l. My eldest BTW has not had any actual information on intwecourse etc but asked us about human reproduction cause he was reading up about some reptiles and was curious how human chromosomes get together to combine 🤣🤣 so my husband had a chat with him, also how there is an emotional side to the whole, and since then he's all chilled. Also he's not yet interested in the whole matter on a personal level but won't take bullshit from the elder kids at the schoolyard either. If I had a kid where the school would manage to talk to him first, Franky, I'd be mighty upset.

BTW I did not pick it up, but Arya is full time home, no l?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: deefy89

I very much agree with you here and sadly it’s been failings by parents that have lead to the state stepping in. Here in the uk when it was introduced in one school alongside teaching that gay and lesbian relationships are a choice, when parents protested, because most of them were ethnic and muslim the press spun it as a Muslim vs west thing. Needles to say nothing has changed and kids in primary school are still being taught that u can choose to be gay/ straight or male or female. Some schools have stopped using he/she and instead use they/their. There are also shared toilets within some schools. The sex Ed thing is very much a more recent thing however they’re selling it as “education is better than ignorance” and you’d rather have your kid learn about their own bodies than them learn it online. Pls don’t mistake when I say sex education that I mean intercourse coz intercourse isn’t taught until primary school. At 5 they are taught about their bodies and bodies of the opposite sex. Also on ppl violating same said bodies and the right thing to do when that happens.

I don’t have kids of my own yet and it’s made me really fearful about having any- what with how little control parents have about what they’re fed.

I first learnt about sex education when I was in the sixth grade and personally, I feel like that was the right time to learn about sex itself. Intercourse, protective measures, the various diseases, pregnancies etc. You're at that age where you naturally become curious about these things and it's only helpful to get information to supplement your curiosity.

Even if parents try to prevent schools from teaching these things, they can't "protect" their children forever. They'll simply seek out other mediums like the Internet, or ask their friends who attended the class. No matter what parents try, these discussions will take place. It's better if it happens with them and in a nurturing manner than downright shutting them down and out.

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Originally posted by: deefy89

I very much agree with you here and sadly it’s been failings by parents that have lead to the state stepping in. Here in the uk when it was introduced in one school alongside teaching that gay and lesbian relationships are a choice, when parents protested, because most of them were ethnic and muslim the press spun it as a Muslim vs west thing. Needles to say nothing has changed and kids in primary school are still being taught that u can choose to be gay/ straight or male or female. Some schools have stopped using he/she and instead use they/their. There are also shared toilets within some schools. The sex Ed thing is very much a more recent thing however they’re selling it as “education is better than ignorance” and you’d rather have your kid learn about their own bodies than them learn it online. Pls don’t mistake when I say sex education that I mean intercourse coz intercourse isn’t taught until primary school. At 5 they are taught about their bodies and bodies of the opposite sex. Also on ppl violating same said bodies and the right thing to do when that happens.

I don’t have kids of my own yet and it’s made me really fearful about having any- what with how little control parents have about what they’re fed.

BTW the issue of male and female private parts are mostly an issue in small core families. If you've got a bunch of sisters, brothers, cousins, etc. in nappies this is a piece of information one picks up automatically 😂😂😂

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Reka_

Here in Europe its usually nothing technical for preschoolers, but they do learn that there are body parts which they should not let be touched by strangers and so on. But sex ed generally still happens too early for my taste.

Interesting.

I didn't learn about sex ed until I was in the sixth grade (so maybe ten or eleven years old). I have no way of knowing what children are actually learning. If it is safety tips against sexual abuse, then I'm all for it. They need to know how and when to speak up about these things. Ideally, it should be treated as commonly as if they were being bullied.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmaanixx

I first learnt about sex education when I was in the sixth grade and personally, I feel like that was the right time to learn about sex itself. Intercourse, protective measures, the various diseases, pregnancies etc. You're at that age where you naturally become curious about these things and it's only helpful to get information to supplement your curiosity.

Even if parents try to prevent schools from teaching these things, they can't "protect" their children forever. They'll simply seek out other mediums like the Internet, or ask their friends who attended the class. No matter what parents try, these discussions will take place. It's better if it happens with them and in a nurturing manner than downright shutting them down and out.

I've got two basic problems with school sex ed:

1. They can no way know if my specific child is ready for it mentally and emotionally, and even if they knew, they cannot cater to it

2. They usually hív just one pov about all the delicate issues instead of saying, some say this, some believe that,..

Other than that, I do prefer kids not picking up shady stuff from peers or the internet.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Reka_

Where I live you cannot pull a kid out of school legally. So I can do nothing but pay attention l. My eldest BTW has not had any actual information on intwecourse etc but asked us about human reproduction cause he was reading up about some reptiles and was curious how human chromosomes get together to combine 🤣🤣 so my husband had a chat with him, also how there is an emotional side to the whole, and since then he's all chilled. Also he's not yet interested in the whole matter on a personal level but won't take bullshit from the elder kids at the schoolyard either. If I had a kid where the school would manage to talk to him first, Franky, I'd be mighty upset.

BTW I did not pick it up, but Arya is full time home, no l?

Loll, here the education system is a total mess. It's a sad state tbh.

Exactly my point. Kids are curious about everything. They'll ask about how babies are made and then move on. They're not like teenagers who are raging with hormones and only have sex on their minds. They'll find something else or another to pique their interest and talk about.

I think Arya's at home for the moment. She hasn't started going to school.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmaanixx

Loll, here the education system is a total mess. It's a sad state tbh.

Exactly my point. Kids are curious about everything. They'll ask about how babies are made and then move on. They're not like teenagers who are raging with hormones and only have sex on their minds. They'll find something else or another to pique their interest and talk about.

I think Arya's at home for the moment. She hasn't started going to school.

@Bold - Well Arya said when mamma came to pick me up from school, she would buy me cotton candy. So, seems Arya goes to school. She's probably in Kindergarten or in India LKG or UKG (whatever they call it).

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Reka_

I've got two basic problems with school sex ed:

1. They can no way know if my specific child is ready for it mentally and emotionally, and even if they knew, they cannot cater to it

2. They usually hív just one pov about all the delicate issues instead of saying, some say this, some believe that,..

Other than that, I do prefer kids not picking up shady stuff from peers or the internet.

Agreed.

Every child is different and they may either not understand what's being taught to them full or become highly freaked out by all the dangers that are being thrown at them.

They don't really cater to different cultures and the kind of perspectives they may have on sex, abuse etc. Then there's the matter of gender identities and sexual orientation. Adults themselves still aren't able to fully comprehend it. For them to go on and teach kids about the same doesn't seem right.

Also, then there's the fact that teachers' own biases can get in the way and they may not choose to teach students the material as in depth as it should be.

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