Why is Babita wrong? - Page 4

Originally posted by: inlieu

She can't separate the insult from the grief on his side and when he needed support she left him all alone in his greatest moment of need. Minnie had to bring her back, don't you think he noticed? She broke his heart and his trust and it was visible in his eyes. I have always wanted to see her step up and for a change support him when he needed. The first opportunity she got, well... she didn't exactly do what one would do for a lover. He probably also feels that she doesn't love him with that depth or passion that he's looking for in a life partner.

Well nobody is antaryami here. Babita doesn't know about the case. Previous night he said.. Paraye Mard mein jyada interest na dikhao.

Next morning, what was she supposed to do? Dikhao interest in paraya mard?

Too much expectation from her. I think both are right in their place. I don't place on over other. Both has to take the step towards each other.

But that character certificate that he gave her, he has to take that back. Thats all.

Originally posted by: yelkar

Maybe I am old fashion, maybe not understanding modern society, but I can say when man express love first, it is something you will remember forever, and carry with you all life. Of course you can show some of affection, they have to be sure too, but if it comes from both sides. Man and woman are so much different, their thinking is different. Sometimes woman see love or wants to see love, but there is nothing. I have seen so many broken hearts, it is not worth to go after man who can't put two words together, or asking someone to ask a girl if she likes him, or not even interested in her. There is so many good men, who will care, but sometimes we not ready to except it. When love is ready from both sides, woman doesn't even have to do anything, she will feel it. Trust me it is worth to wait for that moment. I will never forget, I was just 18, and he was just from my school. He was always making fun of me and was making me mad. I would never guess he liked me. One day my work send me to different city for some classes. On evening I was coming home on the bus, and he was there with his friends. He propose to me on the bus. I didn't expect that coming, but the way he made me feel I will never forget. He past away few years later, but I will always remember him. He had a cancer. So trust me girls, there is true love. When it comes around, you will know it.

Aww....🤗🤗

I agree with you. Though I haven't experienced it, but being proposed by a man is something different. It may not be how it is on television and movies, but simplicity at it's best. And these days, even women go on their knees and propose their Man. Because, choriya choro se kam nahi hoti....😎

i must say that i loved when naeem bi had a go at babita and she was correct in every single thing that she said. even the other day after babita leaving hs house naeem bi called her up on it and questioned how she can put her own hurt feelings above his at a time like this when something bigger is going on.

so suddenly from last week where she was saying she ''finally found what she was looking for in a partner whos not going to love only her but mini also'', shes this week saying she doesnt want anyone and shes happy with just mini. geez this woman is a flip flop. idk why they keep showing her as taking 1 step forward and 10 back. on the one hand shes so emancipated that she wants to learn self defense to fight men who insult her/ppl she loves and on the other hand shes a fragile little thing who becomes an emotional wreck just because a man told her to concentrate on her daughter. i would like there to be some consistency in her character and right now the only consistency there is, is her being more of a flip flop than a fish out of water. i am not bashing her as we so often get accused of as soon as we have something negative to say about her character, i just dont like how they portray her at times.

on a side note how the hell did mini turn out the way she did with so much of intelligence and sense when literally no1 she grew up with has this same sense? and what was with babitas face when hs told mini he would stop drinking for her? i may be misinterpreting her but she didnt look happy.

the fact is how it comes across (to me anyways) is she knew hs had feelings for her and shes decided to exercise her control, because somehow in her mind real love means a person does as she asks them to do. what is all this self respect she keeps going on about? it was her not long back that told mini that shes finally learned self respect isnt about how you dress, act or what ppl say yet suddenly shes SO offended and keeps going back to self respect. self respect is a state of mind, not controlled by others words/actions.

i would really love to see her take her life by the reigns and steer it herself, without her mini have to tell her right from wrong. all the while mini is giving babita direction, whos there giving her direction in her own life?

i get babita has got confidence issues and is insecure and all the rest but this doesnt take precedence over everything and everyone else. as we've seen, everyone (even mini who often has to put her own feelings aside) has some sort of issue theyre dealing with.

this is just my view hope ive not offended anyone who sees babita in a different way.

btw curious about who this new woman is. does anyone know ?

I was one of the first to say that HS could have chosen a different method to keep her (and Minnie) away from him. His words were not just insulting but also very harsh, something which he has pointed out in Babita's dealings with Minnie previously. I am also saying that he MUST apologize to her and acknowledge the depth of her hurt (and his), whether or not he wants to have a romantic relationship with her. She is his daughter's mother after all. Yes, he went nuts with worry and did what he thought was right at that moment, but the end does not justify the means in that case. There was no court case or drawn out legal battle so he has no need to worry about their safety anymore. In addition, he should thank her too for her understanding and for helping him reconcile with his father-in-law.

I know and understand that people here keep focusing on what he implied about her character as a woman, but I am VERY surprised that we aren't talking about him insulting her as a mother and as a businesswoman. Why are those things not being called out enough? They are just as important and part of her identity and he was very very harsh with her on those fronts, especially since those are aspects of her personality that she has always been in touch with. Her emancipation and identity as a woman is new to her and hurting her there was a low blow.

A woman has many dimensions to her and if anything, I am glad that she was just as bothered about him insulting her character as she was when he challenged her ability to look after Minnie (which she has always taken pride in), to the point where he pretty much accused her of being incompetent, selfish and negligent.

I totally agree with your post. If i see from Babita side, that comment about "paraya mard" has nothing to do with her ego. It is all about her confidence as a woman and her ability to be a companion or accepted as a companion by a man. In her mind, it was once again a rejection. She has already been rejected by Ashok as a companion. Plus, she did hear a lot from Ashok on similar lines outside the court room but then in due time she kind of let it go because Ashok was not a good person. But the same thing coming from Hanuman who is ideal in all ways must have been hurtful especially to a woman who still is very insecure in her mind of being a companion to a man. Yes financially, she secure but somewhere at the back of her mind she is still thinking that may be she as a woman is not enough to be a person a man wants. Hanuman slowly gave her that confidence and just when she allowed herself to take that step, he rejected her with the point which is her biggest insecurity: motherhood and then enticing other man almost similar to what Ashok said at the lowest point of her life.

On the other hand, in Hanuman mind, he was doing something good by letting her go but he has not realized the impact his words have had on her or how hurtful they were. He is still in his past and at this point, I do not even know what his feelings towards Babita are but if Babita is what he wants, it might take a long time for him to bring her back to a point where she feels she is worthy of a man's love. She might say yes but that insecurity is going to rear his head at many points. He might think that she is not accepting him because of his past and there might be misunderstanding there but his comment has done more damage than they think especially as she is woman who has been cheated by her husband with another woman.

The other in household think that its her ego because of the situation and not able to understand her inner feelings but its much more than that and there will be frustration on all sides toward her. The only person who can make her understand would be Hanuman. Lets see how CV's handle it.

Originally posted by: Mishti_Dahi

Yeah, I might not have come across anything like a proposal. But I can understand. That is why I say that even if it ain't a full fledged confession, she can give signals that she's ready. And he can go ahead. She can definetly take the initiative.

That incident you narrated was so heart touching and breaking at the same time!

Thank you)))

I don't know what is going on in Babata's heart, but sometimes we are our own biggest enemy.

Thank you for writing this, this is truly what I felt ,it is not about ego that everyone has been saying, it is the hurt. A woman such as babita will feel as if she was a loose woman ,who was too forward. Many people don’t understand that, the society which is now and the society during our time which is 70s to mid 90s are totally different ,to break free from that takes a lot of willpower, determination and support. I was in the similar situation myself,so l know how babita feels. Cvs made it too much like an ego then the actual hurt. Women who went through similar situation will know it is not ego, but the deeply inflicted hurt caused by the words by the person whom we felt love for the first time. Yes love for the first love ,what babita felt for Ashok was a duty love not the pure love she feels for HS. It is quite difficult for woman of this generation to understand ,it is understandable, the way they are brought up, the society now is so much better compared to our times where we are always the person who is wrong and there is no one to listen our side of story. Thank you again and may you be more stronger each day my friend.

Originally posted by: Mishti_Dahi

I'm sorry but since when expression of love first became a 'manly' job? That's so stereotypical. Why can't women Express love first? Okay, forget the confession. She can give him a green signal whenever she wants, that she is ready for this relationship. Why HS has to initiate things everytime?

I believe she did that...actually none of the two actually proposed...it was understood thru their behaviour...Babita was behaving differently after the pot incident ..she was clearly expressing her love thru her caring ways...but if someone rejects u everytime y wud u propose and insult yourself...when she tried stopping HS from drinking alcohol it was only as she cared for him and thought she could tell him wat to do ...v do that only when v feel v can ..otherwise the old Babita would never be bothered if he drinks or not ...as in she wud not go to the extent she had this time ....and she was confident he wud not drink...honestly that time itself HS’s behaviour was confusing to me...after that everytime he behaved as if Babita did not exist for him ...and he never apologised ...but the worst was when he said things which I feel no woman would take be it any reason...and he has not evn apologised for the same...I feel it is not Babita’s ego ...it is herself respect ...if any woman has self respect she wud behave the way Babita did ....and I sincerely feel they have presented a different HS in latest episodes .. this is definitely not the HS v saw in earlier episodes whose eyes expressed his love for Babita ....and I do not think Babita is wrong here...she did her duty in Imarti episode..she did what she had to ...to save HS....but personally she had the right to feel bad for wat he said ....specifically when it is not one incident but a series of incidents ...also I don’t think Babita ever disrespected HS like I read few ppl saying that she never acknowledged his feelings but she was not in love then...she was evn then HS’s friend and she was a true friend then ...she carried out her duties as a friend but how can v expect her to reciprocate his love when she did not want to ...she was clear all while ...she did not hurt him or back off after expressing her love for him...and from the time she has expressed her love she has done it 100% but why is she expected to take anything ...wat she is doing now is wat she should do...if she behaves cool abt it then it wud have been a problem..

Hello everyone,

Thanks for all your responses. I will respond individually as well shortly. Got caught up with work and just saw the rest of the episodes and finished reading all your comments here and on other posts.

I am glad many of you agree and there are some really good additions such as it was not just the character that was assassinated but her motherhood and her responsibilities as a business woman to name a few.

To those who feel nauseated about her ways or disgusted with her or feel HS deserves better, I am truly sorry and sad you think so. Most of you feel that she questioned him during the the camera episode, but that was a different situation all together- nieether expressed their feelings. In fact she just had a feeling he is interested and she had no such thoughts then. A man who is interested in you how ever good a person he is, a woman puts a guard up. It was portrayed very aptly. People do doubt intentions if you don't then I don't know what to say. Yes he stood by them through their toughest time but again she is comes from a different background than most recent girls. I can't explain more...

I still don't think she is wrong in being hurt even now about the harsh words thrown at her. They were very deep for a woman like her. All that she will need is HS's simple way to apologize like after the mirchi scene. It was so smooth and not dramatic, but sincere and I do believe that is required.

Anyway things have moved forward from there and I truly hope the makers do justice to the future episodes as they have so far.

Again thanks for all the comments and opinions...:) enjoy the rest of you weekend!

Sorry , Beg to differ, she is not an underdog, she is quite stubborn...yes he said it wrong but she is the one hanging up pictures from future, accepted, took the house keys and now suddenly she remembers...all that was still bearable , but then she axed her own foot and respect by telling Minnie to tell Punam aunty about project! Give me a break....her reasoning was okay but method of getting her way...totally childish...reminded me of that scene from ramayan where kaikei goes in her kop bhavan, tears and all!

I still think hanuman should slow down/put brakes

And what is all this b.s. about did not pick my first wedding lehnga! !! Is she suffering from short term memory loss too!

Flashback showed her wearing a Punjabi suit when she married Ashok....she is human and also has/had shades of grey, and not the saint she has been shown to be ...since day 1....hence the audience shock...

She is full of ego and yes there is a fine line between ego and self respect, but she crossed it when she broke her manual sutra to give to her/burnt her wedding suit and sent jewellery back....

Sorry just don't like her character anymore. Yes, she is upset he called her loose and chasing men indirectly , but Ashok did that too in court, and she fought for Meeta, (great) but then she is the one who was hanging pics and still wants to have her cake and eat it too...

I just don't get it....sorry,

I know long post, and just my pov