My take on Babita's choices - Page 2

Originally posted by: AnjuRish

I totally agree with padma. My problem is not that she decided to leave. It is her right as he pushed her away with below the belt remark. But reasons she is giving is wrong. Sometimes u need to understand person is trying to push u away. I am just saying she needs to stand by him now once it is resolved she has every right to question him even leave him.

I actually want her to choose this path.. At this time he needs them n it's her turn to support him now.. Then decides to leave.

Originally posted by: sanoniti

"If you can't love your current partner to the fullest then why the hell are you in the relationship. nobady forced you".ditto on the lines.

the point is babita is NOT Hanuman's partner. You cannot compare a year of love with NO efforts from the other side to that of a husband-wife's love which was so strong and deep. I mean this is not a movie, love at first sight ho gaya abhi the guy cannot live without the girl.To remember imarti just as his beautiful past he needs babita's love tabhi vo pain jayega of losing the only person who loved you wholeheartedly nd changed ur life for the better..I think babita nd hanuman's relationship has not even crossed an early stage of being in love

Originally posted by: AnjuRish

I totally agree with padma. My problem is not that she decided to leave. It is her right as he pushed her away with below the belt remark. But reasons she is giving is wrong. Sometimes u need to understand person is trying to push u away. I am just saying she needs to stand by him now once it is resolved she has every right to question him even leave him.

I don't think Babita believes that HS killed Imarti. She avoided Mini's question when Mini asked her if she believes HS or not. She left because of what he said not because she believes he's the culprit.

I wrote this on the other thread. Posting it here as well as it fits.

Yes, whatever Hanuman said to Babita was wrong... attacking her character like that was just not okay, whatever the intention might have been. Like Mini said, he hurt her below the belt and she has every right to be mad/upset with him. Maybe Babita shouldn't have left the house. Maybe She should have tried to find out why HS acted that way with her... however, I can understand where Babita is coming from. She's been hurt in the past by someone she thought was the closest to her, and whenever HS questioned her character, she was triggered by the incident that happened with Ashok (though I agree that you can't compare what Ashok said with what HS said).. but nevertheless, she was triggered by it. Leaving the haveli might have been an impulse reaction on her part, but she has every right to feel whatever she feels... no one can tell her to not feel a certain way.

I also don't think she believes that Hanuman is responsible for Imarti's death. Yes, she uttered the word "culpable homicide" in front of HS/Mini and Dadu/Beeji... however that might just be her processing this whole issue. She clearly left because of what HS said (as per the flashback she has while talking to mini), and not because she believes he's the culprit. Even when Mini asks him "do you trust HS or not", she doesn't respond.. she clearly doesn't believe he killed Imarti, she's just hurt by his words currently. She will come around once she internalizes the whole thing and thinks about it rationally.

Babita will be the biggest support of HS during this court case, and this track is just to bring Hanita closer to each other .

I agree that she has taken a impulsive reaction without thinking rationally. She is too emotional by nature she got hurt by words of HS and bcoz of this she left without thinking much about all these. She was unable to calculate the things, the meaning and result of her actions. But when she will realise what is going arround her and the real intention of HS, why he said such things to her, she will understand him, she will understand how much he cares for them, she will surely support him.

Originally posted by: Padmajaan

I think we have gone on ad nauseum on this topic and our opinions differ. So be it.

Our stand on Babita stems not from just this incident but from several such incidents when she has backtracked.It has now reached a stage where it's frustrating beyond limits.

Even when Minnie confronts her and tells her the real reason of her leaving, she doesn't react, she doesn't accept that Minnie is right. She does what she does best, i.e. avoid. Avoid addressing issues, avoid taking a stand, avoid admitting she has feelings and so on and so forth. And not once but many times, Babita openly states that she is leaving because of HS being accused of culpable murder!

So if you guys are trying to get into Babita's mind to justify her, why not get into HS's mind and understand why he said all those harsh uncalled for things and why did he display the most uncharacteristic behaviour on his part?

This is what Minnie did, try to get into their minds.

HS has always been portrayed as a gruff, unpolished, protective person and we know his intentions because he did beg forgiveness from Bajrangbali, we do not know Babita's, we only know her stated intentions and that's what has hurt us deeply because we feel that her prevarication, not facing things squarely and avoiding tactics especially in this matter when it's important to show solidarity with the one you supposedly love and who has always stood by you at all times, has crossed all limits now!

Do you remember how HS reacted to Babitas character assassination when he got Minnie the camera? That was so cool! He doesn't let ego come into the picture. She always always always does.

I already mentioned in a comment that Babita has communication issues. But then she has improved over the time. Also on multiple posts people have called her out for that. I am not defending her on this issue. I am just pointing out that Hanuman too is doing the same thing by making one sided decision of backing off and instead of telling her the real reason he decides to repell her. Very childish in my opinion. This is bad communication on his part too. And he wasn't like that before but suddenly he changes for the worse . And I don't see people calling him out. Also asking for forgiveness to God before hurting your partner doesn't justify or lessen the impact of your words and actions. Period. One doesn't have to be fine gentleman to understand that. There's difference between being unpolished and rude. The fact that you are hurt and stressed doesn't give you free pass to behave badly with other people. Babita and Minnie have done this before. And they have been called out. This time it's Hanuman. And he should be called out too.

And they're not even in love, they happen to like each other only. Their relationship is still in infancy. They have not made any serious commitment as far as their relationship as a man and woman is concerned. After babita confessed about her feeling to Naeem bi, she did started loosening up the boundaries set for Hanuman. HS on the other hand, flipped out.

I guess, after being hurt by his words the accusation of culpable homicide was the last blow. On the top of that his sudden obsession with late wife. Babita knew how much HS loved Imarti, and she was cool with it. But you can't expect her to be cool with the type of obsession HS is currently showing. And still if only HS wouldn't have said those words babita wouldn't have given such knee jerk reaction. Half of the problems Hanuman is facing are created by himself. That too for no real reason whatsoever.

Originally posted by: rr66

the point is babita is NOT Hanuman's partner. You cannot compare a year of love with NO efforts from the other side to that of a husband-wife's love which was so strong and deep. I mean this is not a movie, love at first sight ho gaya abhi the guy cannot live without the girl.To remember imarti just as his beautiful past he needs babita's love tabhi vo pain jayega of losing the only person who loved you wholeheartedly nd changed ur life for the better..I think babita nd hanuman's relationship has not even crossed an early stage of being in love

Agree with you about the fact that they're not partner as of now. But I couldn't think of other word when I wrote the post. Love means feelings+honesty + efforts to make things work out. Feelings were there but rest of the two things are missing. And they come only in later stage.

But then I disagree with the Idea that he needs Babita to get over Imarti. I mean first he needs to get over the past and then enter into a relationship with babita. That's exactly what he preached in the past- mujhe daughter ki mother Puri chahiye. So he should be himself too, before babita enters in his love life.

Originally posted by: AnjuRish

I totally agree with padma. My problem is not that she decided to leave. It is her right as he pushed her away with below the belt remark. But reasons she is giving is wrong. Sometimes u need to understand person is trying to push u away. I am just saying she needs to stand by him now once it is resolved she has every right to question him even leave him.

She should be honest about the reason, I agree. I won't defend her for that. It's just that I think it makes no sense to me that HS needs to hurt her to that extent in order to keep her away from the mess. He is hurting her to save her! Very childish and paradoxical.

She would stand by him. It's just that it will take time for her to get over how HS insulted her. It was a serious insult. And he didn't bother to apologize. So her disappointment here is not exactly irrational.

I don't defend her for not being honest. She has been called out for that multiple times. I am pointing out that it makes no sense to me that HS thinks that only way to keep her away from the mess is by hurting her. He wants to protect her by hurting her! Paradoxical in my opinion. Hs is creating problems for himself.😒

And she will support HS, she needs time to get over the insult by HS, and he didn't apologize for his behavior either. It takes time to recover from such a brutal blow.

Originally posted by: Sakurablossom

I don't defend her for not being honest. She has been called out for that multiple times. I am pointing out that it makes no sense to me that HS thinks that only way to keep her away from the mess is by hurting her. He wants to protect her by hurting her! Paradoxical in my opinion. Hs is creating problems for himself.😒

And she will support HS, she needs time to get over the insult by HS, and he didn't apologize for his behavior either. It takes time to recover from such a brutal blow.

About him apologizing , has she ever apologized for questioning his intention behind buying the camera for Minnie? She knew from the beginning he loves her like his own daughter and yet she accused him of bribing Minnie to reach to her? Wasn't that accusation below the belt?