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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi Annie, first of all let me tell you, that its not ranting but telling the truth. Sach ka samna you
knw.
Yesterday I told that we are gadhas and tolerating this nonsense, but today i want to say that makers arebehaving like biggest fools. They are really Thick headed i guess thats why no effort is being made to make itbetter. Every character is butchered, be it gaurav, seema, vik, siddhi. Kunal is already assassinated in my opinion.uska parichay toh hone se raha. The sinal scenes are like a trap for poor viewers. They think we are brainless, they will throw some insignificant snal scenes here and there and we will become ghajni like. The present story lacks creativity, consistency, mreover continuity. I mean ek product banate waqt quality maintain karna zaroori nahi samajhte yeh log. Ek acche show ko le dooba inka yeh attitude. T rps are the proofs. That sbs coverage is only to foolpeople for some more time. The scene was fb and in my opinion, total out of place. But geni cvs thought it will b the
sweet candy for viewers. So ainvayi add kar diya. They are digging their own grave in which my favorite show is
going to sleep in near future. Self-destruction is madness and heights of stupidity. Toh gadha kaun huya?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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hi

annie the show wont get its trps back by just having sinal scenes thrown in. The story is still stuck, the makers know the trps are down they cant ignore that for long, afterall shows remain on air only until its getting trps. I have personally felt that the overall presentation of the show has improved this week,

though yes i have issues with cvs with the way the characters are being potrayed etc. the makers still have alot of work to do.

i dont think sameer will cheat his fans by lieing and keep them in dark. if things are so bad out there and they is no hope he would rather quit.

i may sound stupid but i am still hopeful and positive reg the show.

norzar






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Posted: 13 years ago
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Gaurav did not do a great job, the CV's made Siddhi and other family members extremely stupid to make Gaurav seem smart.Its a simple thing , Seema or Siddhi did not utter Aksha's name , yet Gaurav called the right girl to the house? Its these small details that are being sacrificed at the name of drama that is irritating. If I am not mistaken, Siddhi asked Gaurav to call the girl who live sin that apartment, he sure should have her number.
As for trust issue, honestly tell Jay if anyone were to take a bullet for you would you need further proof of their loyalty?We are here talking about a female who married him to save his mom, who bore Ritcha and Thakral for so long for him and his family.Still SINAL trust - issues.I understand he will be mad at Siddhi for not telling him in the truth but it will be down right pathetic if Kunal were to act (discuss last) upon Gaurav's words! I agree with you that trust between Sinal should not be tested after what they've been through. But the trust factor we've witnessed so far only involved Kunal and Siddhi. Again I'm going to use a real life example, "usually you see male caught in such situation between mother and wife. here at least it is brother for a change. (but then who knows they might bring in Veena later, since mother is closer compare to brother) Ideally i hope no man should face such issue of wife versus family. I have mentioned EMA is very sensible issue and not easy to tackle any way you think (speaking from personal experience) I raised a question what if Kunal would say that Shilpa or Kapil are having EMA, would Siddhi believe right away. No and she shouldn't. I see this issue only in direction of strengthening relationship and Kunal knowing difference between his wife and his family member in non self-fish manner. (I don;t want him to differentiate between his wife and kids to his other family like Gaurav, but more fundamental way)
I have all the while supported Kunal for not jumping in and blaming Gaurav, but by now he must know his wife, if she is hell bent on this , there must be a reason, atleast give her the benefit of doubt , try investigate yourself.What harm can it bring? As to the whole Gaurav explained scenario , he did not explain himself , the CV's like I said earlier just made the others so dumb that they did not even for a moment think maybe Gaurav and Aksha are in thsi together! I see your point about Kunal giving benefit of doubt to Siddhi. But we must also acknowledge that it was right to think Siddhi could've been mistaken, Kunal once was in such situation. From always Kunal is shown to trust his siblings blindly (not that there's anything wrong, know quite a few people like that. I personally remain suspicious of all, even myself) So that case it would be wife versus Siddhi. I understand that siddhi was caught up in the emotions so she couldn't do a good job presenting her side. Gaurav on the other hand was shown taking advantage of that and much more. I agree that others were shown little dumb compared to Gaurav, but it was good compared to how the whole track was introduced and all. I've said so many times this track is worst of all in Parichay, in sense of conviction and it also didn't catch with audience.
My point is Kunal should have evolved through the above mentioned scenarios there should have been lessons learnt.If they show him still the same way where is the character evolution? next time something comes up they will yet again show him do the same thing.That way Kunal will never get his second chance, he will be sucked into the same quick sand of MU's ,anger, make
ing ups, trust issues!!In any relation trust does not ahve to be established over and over again, once trusted it remains, unless something grave happens! About acting upon Gaurav's words, he has not acted yet. we'll see that Monday. I see little evolution in Kunal. First due to MU, he'll start by yelling at Siddhi and later realize he was wrong. Here he tried to ignore the issue as any husband in such situation would do. He first tried to clam Siddhi down and reason with her little bit. Later on he acts little angry and leaves the room, but not the way he use to be. Thanks to Siddhi, Kunal is little more patient, more calm and much more joyful than before. I sense you guys are pointing towards his professional life and it would be nice to see that part as well. But as per handling the situation, we will truly see how he handles it. Upon Raveena's wedding, he handled it much better and we saw some progression. Even during case when Siddhi messed up (with not telling Kunal about hotel visit and then Thakral tricking her), it was appropriate for Kunal to get angry first (even there CVs could have done better job), then truly handles the situation well in unexpected but really good way. If I remember correctly, every time Siddhi is afraid that Kunal is going to react very angrily (like Raveena & case issue) he goes completely opposite. When everyone agrees with Siddhi, he blames her and when no one is with Siddhi, he supports her. I guess that is his unpredictable nature that we all love. Yes it seems that Kunal will be angry at Siddhi in this issue, it is understandable in the heat of the moment (especially for lying to Kunal), but once calm, I also want to see some improvement. I also want to see improvement in Siddhi's character. yes thanks to Kunal she has more attitude than before (not that I mind, I like it), she must be shown communicating better with her husband. I hope this is last time she hides anything from Kunal. I thought she learned her lesson with Richa and all, but damn CVs. They showed little improvement as Siddhi tries to say something, but always leaving it. I want to see change there.
Well I remember the time I used to be as enthusiastic as you sound now!!!😃anyways if the show does repair well and good! Keep posting its interesting to read alternative opinions and then argue healthy!! i hope my enthusiasm does endure for long period. Right now what i hope for more than anything is CVs repairing their mistakes (even more than my exams and grades). And it's always fun to share different opinion, only if it is done in respectable manner.
Edited by jay_bpm - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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we 2 % audience represent rest of the 98 % audience
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Posted: 13 years ago
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If I am not mistaken, Siddhi asked Gaurav to call the girl who live sin that apartment, he sure should have her number.
Exactly she asked , but she did not take names , in house that has more than one inmate without Siddhi specifying which girl she is talking about , how did Gaurav know the exact person to call?
I agree with you that trust between Sinal should not be tested after what they've been through. But the trust factor we've witnessed so far only involved Kunal and Siddhi. Again I'm going to use a real life example, "usually you see male caught in such situation between mother and wife. here at least it is brother for a change. (but then who knows they might bring in Veena later, since mother is closer compare to brother) Ideally i hope no man should face such issue of wife versus family. I have mentioned EMA is very sensible issue and not easy to tackle any way you think (speaking from personal experience) I raised a question what if Kunal would say that Shilpa or Kapil are having EMA, would Siddhi believe right away. No and she shouldn't. I see this issue only in direction of strengthening relationship and Kunal knowing difference between his wife and his family member in non self-fish manner. (I don;t want him to differentiate between his wife and kids to his other family like Gaurav, but more fundamental way)
When a man is caught between a wife and his family the question essentially is not about trust, its about how you can manage your relations.I am not saying that Kunal should have blindly trusted Siddhi, I respect Kunal for not doing that but my argument is in anticipation of what the CV's might do with Kunal Chopra in the coming week.He should not been again shown just as an angry young man.As to whether Siddhi would believe Kunal if it came down to Shilpa or Kapil, we must not forget Siddhi never stopped Kunal when he was helping Ritcha when she did not know Ritcha was playing games, one may argue its because she did not love him then, but I personally feel it was because Siddhi trusted Kunal not to do anything inappropiate.
All I am saying here is Kunal Chopra should not think along the lines of what Gaurav said and believe Siddhi did not care for their relation too.But instead he must be thinking why is she putting so much stake and bother to find out.And most importantly ask her why she did this and listen her out.
I see your point about Kunal giving benefit of doubt to Siddhi. But we must also acknowledge that it was right to think Siddhi could've been mistaken, Kunal once was in such situation. From always Kunal is shown to trust his siblings blindly (not that there's anything wrong, know quite a few people like that. I personally remain suspicious of all, even myself) So that case it would be wife versus Siddhi. I understand that siddhi was caught up in the emotions so she couldn't do a good job presenting her side. Gaurav on the other hand was shown taking advantage of that and much more. I agree that others were shown little dumb compared to Gaurav, but it was good compared to how the whole track was introduced and all. I've said so many times this track is worst of all in Parichay, in sense of conviction and it also didn't catch with audience.
I understand about Kunal thinking Siddhi is misguided but he could still just ponder over it, when Siddhi had her doubts about Kunal and Ritcha in the hotel room all it took was for Kunal to say nothing happened and Siddhi stood by him through all just like Gaurav said.So this time she is not backing out must mean something.I just want him to think over it.
As to the track being the worst , I admit it is cliched but it did have great potential if it had been explored keeping Kunal central, if it had been Kunal discovering instead of Siddhi.But that was not to be so.The problem lays not with the current track, it lays with the shift of focus from Kunal Chopra that happened.
About acting upon Gaurav's words, he has not acted yet. we'll see that Monday. I see little evolution in Kunal. First due to MU, he'll start by yelling at Siddhi and later realize he was wrong. Here he tried to ignore the issue as any husband in such situation would do. He first tried to clam Siddhi down and reason with her little bit. Later on he acts little angry and leaves the room, but not the way he use to be. Thanks to Siddhi, Kunal is little more patient, more calm and much more joyful than before. I sense you guys are pointing towards his professional life and it would be nice to see that part as well. But as per handling the situation, we will truly see how he handles it. Upon Raveena's wedding, he handled it much better and we saw some progression. Even during case when Siddhi messed up (with not telling Kunal about hotel visit and then Thakral tricking her), it was appropriate for Kunal to get angry first (even there CVs could have done better job), then truly handles the situation well in unexpected but really good way. If I remember correctly, every time Siddhi is afraid that Kunal is going to react very angrily (like Raveena & case issue) he goes completely opposite. When everyone agrees with Siddhi, he blames her and when no one is with Siddhi, he supports her. I guess that is his unpredictable nature that we all love. Yes it seems that Kunal will be angry at Siddhi in this issue, it is understandable in the heat of the moment (especially for lying to Kunal), but once calm, I also want to see some improvement. I also want to see improvement in Siddhi's character. yes thanks to Kunal she has more attitude than before (not that I mind, I like it), she must be shown communicating better with her husband. I hope this is last time she hides anything from Kunal. I thought she learned her lesson with Richa and all, but damn CVs. They showed little improvement as Siddhi tries to say something, but always leaving it. I want to see change there.
I have no complaints if they show Kunal has indeed evolved.I am just skceptical about what the CV's have planned.Ther seem to like going in circles!!
i hope my enthusiasm does endure for long period. Right now what i hope for more than anything is CVs repairing their mistakes (even more than my exams and grades). And it's always fun to share different opinion, only if it is done in respectable manner.
Yea I agree to the respectable manner, I guess if both the parties involved and mature enough , it shouldn't be much of a problem right ?😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: jay_bpm


I agree with what you all have to say. First the trust issue, I feel it's not same as we have seen in past. I discussed that issue in one of my posts. As viewers we know Gaurav is total jerk and that Siddhi is right. Ideally this track would nice for Sinal as it takes the trust issue a step further. So far we saw Kunal and Siddhi had to trust each-other if they did anything wrong or not? Here issue is whether Kunal should believe his brother or wife? Both hold al most same value to a man. So Kunal had to be objective when this issue came out. In Siddhi vs. Gaurav, Gaurav did hell of a job, no doubts about that. So Kunal believed Gaurav that he's not cheating. Kunal believed Siddhi that she did see Gaurav, but her conclusion was misguided. It was appropriate for Kunal to do so. I know this issue could have been handled well and CVs did mess it up big time. But no use in talking about it now as it will only irk us all.

Now what do I mean about Kunal in-charge. Of course I won't be satisfied by seeing Kunal as raging bull and no brain at all. I am not looking forward to seeing Kunal angry, Siddhi crying for 2 weeks and all of a sudden Kunal realizes that Siddhi is right. No I am being bit hopeful based on previously seen tracks and episodes. Let me remind you guys, "during whole Richa case, after Thakarl found out about Sinal divorce and humiliation in court, later followed by Siddhi's failed attempt at the case, Kunal and Siddhi had huge fight in ME, and Kunal stayed angry at Siddhi. But after her failed attempt at court, due to Siddhi's efforts, Kunal calms down and helps Siddhi. First he consoles her and later tricks Thakral to help Siddhi and himself. That was Kunal in-charge for me."

I Know I may be a bit optimistic about this and CVs are known for killing our spirit. I am hoping that as usual, first Kunal will be angry, not talking to siddhi, everyone crying about it and all. Once Kunal calms down, he is shown using his brain and make sincere effort at solving any issue that arises. I am still hopeful for the show.

As per Mr. Sameer Soni quitting, I have always said the show still has potential and it can repaired. Sameer sir is reason we love Kunal Chopra. I still feel like sticking to the show and remain hopeful. Yes I don't know for how long this hope will survive, but until then nothing is bringing me down. No questioning, no comments or no major issue in the show. For now I'll continue to produce alternative hypotheses for each situation.



That's the point jay. If you are producing alternate hypotheses for each situation means you also agree that the situation could have been handled better. Then why not tell the CVs that? If we keep telling them you are doing a great job, keep going, how will they ever learn? They are royally screwing up and the only way they will learn is if we tell them that and stop watching the show. The language of TRPs is all they understand. So I am sticking to my promise of not watching. If you want my money you have to earn it CVs.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: pinkeye

Hi Annie, first of all let me tell you, that its not ranting but telling the truth. Sach ka samna you
knw.
Yesterday I told that we are gadhas and tolerating this nonsense, but today i want to say that makers arebehaving like biggest fools. They are really Thick headed i guess thats why no effort is being made to make itbetter. Every character is butchered, be it gaurav, seema, vik, siddhi. Kunal is already assassinated in my opinion.uska parichay toh hone se raha. The sinal scenes are like a trap for poor viewers. They think we are brainless, they will throw some insignificant snal scenes here and there and we will become ghajni like. The present story lacks creativity, consistency, mreover continuity. I mean ek product banate waqt quality maintain karna zaroori nahi samajhte yeh log. Ek acche show ko le dooba inka yeh attitude. T rps are the proofs. That sbs coverage is only to foolpeople for some more time. The scene was fb and in my opinion, total out of place. But geni cvs thought it will b the
sweet candy for viewers. So ainvayi add kar diya. They are digging their own grave in which my favorite show is
going to sleep in near future. Self-destruction is madness and heights of stupidity. Toh gadha kaun huya?



You are absolutely right Payal. They are self-destructing. 👏👏 Well then let them do that. Perhaps BT made so much money from DP they have money to throw around now😆😆😆 The show will end and we will keep the memories of the old episodes and move on. But how many of these writers and creatives will still keep their jobs is debatable😆😆

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