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So I watched the shivi scene lol if you watch this as a stand alone scene its like shivi have had bad interactions in past and shiva is aym lol they bump again due to rickshaw incident lol there shiva loses his cool but cos the driver apologized is fine but coz raavi taunted him he comes back and tries to intimidate her lol verbal fights but his physical presence was aggressive with him snatching her phone looking away to control himself lol and his angry slamming on the rickshaw lol and then he walks away lol he to a person who hasnt seen the show before will look like aym potential goon lol

Originally posted by: manny136

Hello everyone, this is totally random but kisi ko yad hai Jeera kand ke baad raavi shiva hote hain ghar pe and raavi pillow uthake itne DOBIFULL reasons deti hai for not sharing room with him.

Its one of the greatest mystery for me atleast ki aakhir usne kya socha tha ki shiva aisa kya kar sakta hai ? She knows him from childhood and one thing is sure that even in anger or tharki mode activated, Shiva wont do a thing with her without her consent.

Kya sochke gayi wo janna hai mjhe. Makers batao what was going in her head. I am stuck at that particular action of hers.

This may be an unpopular opinion !

I don’t dislike Shiva, I dislike Raavi being held at a much higher standard of fault than Shiva!
it’s a long post, please do read and share your thoughts

Sharing some thoughts that are running in my head!

About Shiva’s sacrifice and how Raavi should be grateful!

I disagree, Shiva’s choice to marry Raavi was heavily influenced by Dhara! I would say almost 90% or more, a small part 10% may have been influenced by seeing Raavi hanging from the noose!
I think seeing her like that for the first time in his life, he realized she’s a human who has a gamut of emotions. She feels pain so unbearable that she doesn’t want to live anymore!
without the wedding drama, this may have mellowed him down towards her and he may have silently cared for her from afar!
but it honestly didn’t affect him so much that he willingly stood up and tld he’ll marry her! It’s tv tropes abt Raavi being left at the altar and stuff, but even then he didn’t volunteer coz maybe in the back of his mind he knew she’ll never get over Dev or it won’t work between them!
also nor did maama maami demand that Raavi get married right then and there, they were respectfully walking out of the venue!
it was dhara who came up with this solution coz Suman was harping on abt losing her brother and threatening to throw dhara out!
Shiva said yes only for Dhara and his family! To save them from humiliation and dhara from getting kicked out!
he made a sacrifical choice for his family, one out of the many he’s done including quitting his studies maybe!
he took on the burden of the decision of his family, which his family should have helped him shoulder!
To expect Raavi to be eternally grateful to Shiva and put him on a pedestal is unfair and wrong!
She didn’t ask for it nor did her family, nor was she the only deciding factor in his decision! She was also a byproduct- ill do it for my bhabhi also I’m very affected by looking at her like this!
All said and done, he made a choice, we can’t expect Raavi to keep telling him how grateful she is, she will when she reaches there and put him on a pedestal, but putting the burden of Shiva’s decision on Raavi is unfair.

Also didn’t Shiva call Raavi a “panauti” when the bike didn’t start? I remember him calling her that multiple times which is very bad since it means like a bad omen, also the way he says it seems like he didn’t want to be married to her but was forcefully tied to her, if he was forced , it wasn’t raavi who forced him right?

Isn’t that name calling? So he’s also been doing that since the wedding!
He also continuously argues with her and makes her feel unwanted right from the day of the wedding! He also like a typical husband goes off on her for insulting dhara during the bus journey when Raavi did no such thing!
Raavi is wrong to place the blame entirely on dhara, but she’s atleast gone off on her, Shiva never has, all his frustrations he takes out on Raavi!

While Shiva’s family has constantly abused him physically and emotionally alot, all that blame has been placed on Raavi coz she’s at the center of it, which is not the case, Dhara was the one who started it and Shiva should take it out on her!

Again reiterating my point of how men get away with a lot of bad behavior,

Shiva’s name calling, his using raavi as a punching bag is unnoticed just coz he made a sacrifice!
His sacrifice was heavily influenced by his love for his family, Raavi had a small part in it, so she shouldn’t bear the biggest brunt of it!

Originally posted by: prernapewdie

Hello everyone, this is totally random but kisi ko yad hai Jeera kand ke baad raavi shiva hote hain ghar pe and raavi pillow uthake itne DOBIFULL reasons deti hai for not sharing room with him.

Its one of the greatest mystery for me atleast ki aakhir usne kya socha tha ki shiva aisa kya kar sakta hai ? She knows him from childhood and one thing is sure that even in anger or tharki mode activated, Shiva wont do a thing with her without her consent.

Kya sochke gayi wo janna hai mjhe. Makers batao what was going in her head. I am stuck at that particular action of hers.

IMO, it’s still a mystery but possible explanation, it was intimidating to sleep in the same room with him when non of the other family members were around. She also said the other rooms will feel left out when one of them don’t sleep in those rooms. So she chose to sleep in the living room. Raavi shared a room with him in the haveli and later after everyone returned to Somnath. That was the only day she was out of their room.

Most of the times writers of this show don’t make any sense at all.

Originally posted by: prernapewdie

Hello everyone, this is totally random but kisi ko yad hai Jeera kand ke baad raavi shiva hote hain ghar pe and raavi pillow uthake itne DOBIFULL reasons deti hai for not sharing room with him.

Its one of the greatest mystery for me atleast ki aakhir usne kya socha tha ki shiva aisa kya kar sakta hai ? She knows him from childhood and one thing is sure that even in anger or tharki mode activated, Shiva wont do a thing with her without her consent.

Kya sochke gayi wo janna hai mjhe. Makers batao what was going in her head. I am stuck at that particular action of hers.

Well, I think that she was just uncomfortable with the whole idea of it. They shared a room in the haveli because even with just the family members, they did have to maintain the very, very, basic appearances of a married couple. That one night, if Raavi shared the room with Shiva, then she was doing it of her own free will, not for the family's sake... She has no excuses to hide behind the way she normally does... And this is also right after she accidentally admits to Shiva that she was waiting up for him because she didn't feel safe enough to fall asleep without him in the house... And let's also take a moment to remember that both the bed and the room itself were much larger in the haveli than they are in Pandya Niwas...

I consider their equation at that point in time a very frenemy-ish one, and I think that the way she reacted was pretty normal really..... ❤

Originally posted by: prernapewdie

Hello everyone, this is totally random but kisi ko yad hai Jeera kand ke baad raavi shiva hote hain ghar pe and raavi pillow uthake itne DOBIFULL reasons deti hai for not sharing room with him.

Its one of the greatest mystery for me atleast ki aakhir usne kya socha tha ki shiva aisa kya kar sakta hai ? She knows him from childhood and one thing is sure that even in anger or tharki mode activated, Shiva wont do a thing with her without her consent.

Kya sochke gayi wo janna hai mjhe. Makers batao what was going in her head. I am stuck at that particular action of hers.

It's not about if shiva will do something to her..she was literally sleeping with him in the room every day...its just that since no one else at home, there was no need for them to stay overnight together as a husband and wife. It was fine for them to keep their personal distance while they sleep...its just about personal space..she had no doubt abt shivas character.

Originally posted by: wanderer102016

This may be an unpopular opinion !

I don’t dislike Shiva, I dislike Raavi being held at a much higher standard of fault than Shiva!
it’s a long post, please do read and share your thoughts

Sharing some thoughts that are running in my head!

About Shiva’s sacrifice and how Raavi should be grateful!

I disagree, Shiva’s choice to marry Raavi was heavily influenced by Dhara! I would say almost 90% or more, a small part 10% may have been influenced by seeing Raavi hanging from the noose!
I think seeing her like that for the first time in his life, he realized she’s a human who has a gamut of emotions. She feels pain so unbearable that she doesn’t want to live anymore!
without the wedding drama, this may have mellowed him down towards her and he may have silently cared for her from afar!
but it honestly didn’t affect him so much that he willingly stood up and tld he’ll marry her! It’s tv tropes abt Raavi being left at the altar and stuff, but even then he didn’t volunteer coz maybe in the back of his mind he knew she’ll never get over Dev or it won’t work between them!
also nor did maama maami demand that Raavi get married right then and there, they were respectfully walking out of the venue!
it was dhara who came up with this solution coz Suman was harping on abt losing her brother and threatening to throw dhara out!
Shiva said yes only for Dhara and his family! To save them from humiliation and dhara from getting kicked out!
he made a sacrifical choice for his family, one out of the many he’s done including quitting his studies maybe!
he took on the burden of the decision of his family, which his family should have helped him shoulder!
To expect Raavi to be eternally grateful to Shiva and put him on a pedestal is unfair and wrong!
She didn’t ask for it nor did her family, nor was she the only deciding factor in his decision! She was also a byproduct- ill do it for my bhabhi also I’m very affected by looking at her like this!
All said and done, he made a choice, we can’t expect Raavi to keep telling him how grateful she is, she will when she reaches there and put him on a pedestal, but putting the burden of Shiva’s decision on Raavi is unfair.

Also didn’t Shiva call Raavi a “panauti” when the bike didn’t start? I remember him calling her that multiple times which is very bad since it means like a bad omen, also the way he says it seems like he didn’t want to be married to her but was forcefully tied to her, if he was forced , it wasn’t raavi who forced him right?

Isn’t that name calling? So he’s also been doing that since the wedding!
He also continuously argues with her and makes her feel unwanted right from the day of the wedding! He also like a typical husband goes off on her for insulting dhara during the bus journey when Raavi did no such thing!
Raavi is wrong to place the blame entirely on dhara, but she’s atleast gone off on her, Shiva never has, all his frustrations he takes out on Raavi!

While Shiva’s family has constantly abused him physically and emotionally alot, all that blame has been placed on Raavi coz she’s at the center of it, which is not the case, Dhara was the one who started it and Shiva should take it out on her!

Again reiterating my point of how men get away with a lot of bad behavior,

Shiva’s name calling, his using raavi as a punching bag is unnoticed just coz he made a sacrifice!
His sacrifice was heavily influenced by his love for his family, Raavi had a small part in it, so she shouldn’t bear the biggest brunt of it!

💯💯💯 plz frame it.

The great sacrifices which Shiva has been making , I appreciate all of it but not marrying raavi 🤢 It has become a prestige issue for dhara n she just wants to prove herself right thats why she keeps pushing both of them......that day all of them who kept quiet were wrong ..all were guilty of keeping raavi as alternate option n were getting her married to dev ..sabne itna raita failaya upar se raavi ki shadi Kara di Shiva se....I was amused , he said if he didn't love raavi he would have continued to live with her..what even 🤢 one day dhara will get to say "dekha maine kaha tha getting them married was a right decision " . I will always hate dhara for this one thing and the danda kaand.

That's what my grudge is and I defend raavi....I see a girl who was wronged and continues to suffer and I don't see the reason. Why he does it with her? Her calling him jungli gawar may be a sin but far less than the crap Shiva has been dishing out to her. There is no comparison nor is he affected by it . She has been calling him that since I have started watching them and they call each all sorts of names..chipkali , panauti, pata nai kya kya..mujhe yaad bhi nai... Aur kya bole if he throws bricks at her? Jaanu prannath plz ye na pheko?

I am not sure why you have tagged me but trust me, my love-hate relationship with Shiva is equally stoic. There are days when I feel like cancelling him, and then there are days when I could cry for him.

It's never Raavi Vs Shiva for me. To date, they are complicated, and that only makes them human.

Shiva-maybe pathetic at times, but certain traits make him a genuine person too.

Similarly, for Raavi-I can't hate her for being nasty, and there are days when I could cry for her.

This is fiction, and thus, their template does make sense to me. Women deserve to be treated very well, and trust me, I have called out Gaumbi for his cowardice and Dev for his double standards, and Shiva for his toxicity.

These are two different people who wanted other things in life.

Originally posted by: Transference

I am not sure why you have tagged me but trust me, my love-hate relationship with Shiva is equally stoic. There are days when I feel like cancelling him, and then there are days when I could cry for him.

It's never Raavi Vs Shiva for me. To date, they are complicated, and that only makes them human.

Shiva-maybe pathetic at times, but certain traits make him a genuine person too.

Similarly, for Raavi-I can't hate her for being nasty, and there are days when I could cry for her.

This is fiction, and thus, their template does make sense to me. Women deserve to be treated very well, and trust me, I have called out Gaumbi for his cowardice and Dev for his double standards, and Shiva for his toxicity.

These are two different people who wanted other things in life.

Thanks for the reply!

Since I replied after your post, you got tagged in it, sorry if you felt offended!
I agree with what you’ve written, it’s fiction and that’s how it should be viewed!

Originally posted by: _charu_

💯💯💯 plz frame it.

The great sacrifices which Shiva has been making , I appreciate all of it but not marrying raavi 🤢 It has become a prestige issue for dhara n she just wants to prove herself right thats why she keeps pushing both of them......that day all of them who kept quiet were wrong ..all were guilty of keeping raavi as alternate option n were getting her married to dev ..sabne itna raita failaya upar se raavi ki shadi Kara di Shiva se....I was amused , he said if he didn't love raavi he would have continued to live with her..what even 🤢 one day dhara will get to say "dekha maine kaha tha getting them married was a right decision " . I will always hate dhara for this one thing and the danda kaand.

That's what my grudge is and I defend raavi....I see a girl who was wronged and continues to suffer and I don't see the reason. Why he does it with her? Her calling him jungli gawar may be a sin but far less than the crap Shiva has been dishing out to her. There is no comparison nor is he affected by it . She has been calling him that since I have started watching them and they call each all sorts of names..chipkali , panauti, pata nai kya kya..mujhe yaad bhi nai... Aur kya bole if he throws bricks at her? Jaanu prannath plz ye na pheko?

Bold1: agree, all of pandya family except Suman were responsible for Raavi’s state! So all of them should have helped Shiva navigate his relationship with her!

It was all their guilt, pride and humiliation he avoided by marrying her! That shouldn’t have absolved them of anything. They all should have collectively worked towards making Shiva and Raavi genuinely happy!
But Raavi never wanted any of it, so she shouldn’t be blamed or expected to treat Shiva specially!

Bold2: she’ll do that, but that statement doesn’t make any sense looking at the pain they’ve gone through!
despite spewing venom always, maami predicted how the marraige will turn out and that’s exactly what happened 4 months down the line! Wat was the need for all this drama then?
Shiva also lacks emotional depth, he never contemplated the consequences of his decision!
How would they live like strangers in a room for an entire lifetime? What if at some point he/she felt attracted to one another?
what if living in the same house as Dev she could never move on?
he didn’t think abt any of it, Dhara asked he said yes! Didn’t think after also abt it!
his insecurities are not just Raavi’s making, it’s been festering since his uncontrollable anger displays and quitting his studies!
We have seen maami and Raavi calling him names, but they aren’t the only ones, I am sure the whole of Somnath calls him that!
Doesn’t look like he’s ever stood up for himself against people calling him junglee, janwar, gawar nor has his family! He’s behaved like it doesn’t bother him, suddenly expecting only Raavi to defend him confusing for her!