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what did that aunty say?

I don’t like Suman reaction. Why she scold raavi for slapping Shiva. So husband can mishandle, misbehaved but wife should listen. The slap was well deserved.

I am not liking Shiva now. He has insecurities that i agree. And raavi might have been in fault unintentionally intensifying those insecurities. But in no way give free pass to Shiva to manhandle her. He has humiliated her in front of everyone in function. Then character assassination, not to forget manhandling here and there. He respects his bhabi and mother then who not his wife. This trend of glorifying of male lead manhandling and then romanticizing should stop.

Originally posted by: .Sunrise.

Loved the episode both shiva and raavi's fault was pointed out , both of them were punished

Shiva is at a bigger fault and rishita as always was right

Glad that raavi said this that shiva doesn't even treat her as an Insaan and I can't believe shiva after so much drama s was so rude and told her to get out !! Hated that scene

Suman is right , pyaar tu door ki baat hai , they first need to respect each other and I hope this seperatation is a long one and thank God the drama will be over tomorrow , All the shouting and fighting has started to exhaust me

One thing I don't understand Suman doesn't let anyone beat her kids but is quick to throw things at everyone isn't that physical abuse

PS Pandya store makers pls keep a good playlist of sad songs ready now 😛

Very valid point. Especially when it comes to hitting her DILs.

Originally posted by: chinnu_kaku

what did that aunty say?

Raavi was telling everyone how Shiva questioned her character front of everyone and the family was bashing Shiva. The Aunty came and asked her to to tell only one sided story and asked her to mention how she slapped him as well front of everyone and that's the biggest humiliation for a husband to be slapped like that in public. Implying how disrespect and airing dirty laundry was from both sides.

Reposting from EDT

I voted yellow because it was kinda what I was expecting.

I was prepared for the family to be a pendulum while assigning blame and defending initially. But what I didn't expect was how violence was the first reaction of everyone- Gaumbi, Dhara, Suman. They're not even giving Shiva a chance to say anything...just wanting to hit him which doesn't solve anything. That's what made the first part really ugly.

Then, I actually liked Suman when she talked about respecting each other and their relationship. She also kinda gets that both Shivi are at a fault. So that made the episode salvageable

Originally posted by: brat2008

Lol! Tempers & accusations flying all over the screen today

Left right & center🤣 in high volumes 😛

Suman turns fair & unfair like a ghirgit 🤣

She was on team Raavi and then jumped on to team shiva 🤣

Finally became the match referee and both got red card 🤣

Rishitha was good today ❤️

Dev does not say anything anyways 😆

Dhara tried to be the coach but failed miserably and was given a warning by the match referee 🤣

“ Don’t try to bypass me “🤣

The yellow saree auntyji actually came to calm them down but ended up igniting it more🤪

Both Raavi & shiva suspended at the end of the day 🤣
Banned from playing husband and wife for a few days 🤣

I like your review of the episode😆

Blahhh 😆

And meh 🤣

And lol 🤪

Can't fathom my reaction

Wanted to talk about this, and feeling lost in EDT, will write here. thank you, for making this poll.

Voted green.

This CHAPTER of ShiVi’s life & it’s impact on the whole family needs to be seen in continuation.

I watched all 3 episodes today, and will say it’s still not done until Raavi leaves.

As a mother of a boy & a girl: i totally understand Suman today.

Infact, applaud her ‘tharel’ reaction & decision.

I would be very upset as a mother if my children’s personal fight takes place in public arena. Humiliating.

I will be very upset if my son ever behaves with his girl/ wife like this. I will question my upbringing just like how Suman did.

I am looking forward to see how she tells Raavi too.

About ShiVi:

They both have been abusive.

Shiva was physically aggressive so far, and Raavi was verbal abuser. This time the simmering issues they both were running away from exploded & reactions swapped. Raavi turned physical & Shiva has been saying nasty stuff to her. Swap is only making things worse.

As Suman pointed: Respect- the important factor in a marriage is what is missing in this vouple’s Life. And until it is worked up on, this time out is necessary. Else call it quits.

Raavi grew up with Shiva -jaahil- jungli- gawaar image. Maami’s words are etched in her mindset & She has not consciously tried to give a thought to those. Miss prewedding Raavi, Who was not so bitter to Shiva.

Raavi needed to do course correction, in terms of communication + processing adjustments without constantly focusing on ‘compromise’. She didn’t.

She still gets hyper excited at ‘face value’ Of things & situations. Be it friend’s jacket or reacting to Shiva’s anger w/o paying attention to her freind’s words.

Shiva, he has been wronged & let down more by his brother’s than anyone else.

Beyond hush hush ‘Surat /seerat’ kancheytaljs- None of them have ever raised their voice when people taunt shiva as Jungli/gawar etc. maami has been notoriously doing it consistently. Rishita has done it a few times. Never ever Dev or Gaumbhi have objected strongly to that. It’s not a joke.

Those taunts had made Shiva indifferent to this & was kind of comfortable in his skin up until he was by himself. Come Raavi, equations & reactions started changing. He still is comfortable but is also conscious that she is not comfortable. And that has messed up his comfort completely. He has suddenly realized he is inferior & this realization is what made him insecure. Complicated mess.

This is a joint family & like it told not, family does come in the way - whichever way things go.

I am quite pissed at GauRa for this very reason. They are no better than Suman who thinks staying together they will have kids.

Gautam has shown minimal concern when Shiva was joked at by delivery guy at haveli or when he came home drunk or when he pushed Raavi in saavan celebrations. He should have made an effort to talk with Shiva. Same goes for Dhara.

They both never corrects maami when she goes off jungli rant. they both never correct a Rishita when she goes off on Shiva.

Dhara needed to be ‘di’ to Raavi & ease out the beginning of Shivi’s accidental/ destined Shaadi. Haveli had that option & there she managed to make it all abt herself & batwara.

Less said about Dev, better. He never ever ever ever has realized the magnitude of mess he left on these two. He perhaps never will realize. His reactions today were horrible.

For next: all for this time off & away from the family.

They both need this. Though not sure how it will go.

Was surprised to see CV’s showing Shiva’s going out too. And like this approach.

Look forward to this greenzone chapter of PS.

Alright bounty, I have settled on yellow 😆 Posting this here as well to explain why yellow 😳

Disclaimer: This post may ended being excessively long owing to the fact that I have never myself nor seen the forum so conflicted about an episode. Please bare with me as I try to piece together my own thoughts

Right off the bat, I am quite annoyed with the disillusionments that the entire Pandya Parivar has about Shiva and Raavi's relationship. Forget the past few weeks, just going based off of the yatra - it doesn't seem to me that they were traveling on the same yatra that we were watching. Did they not witness and comment on how Shiva and Raavi were continuously arguing with each other during the yatra? How is it even plausible to think that they will go from fighting like cats and dogs to romancing on a bike? Especially disappointed with Krish and Gaumbi - since they seem to notice whenever Shiva and Raavi are gravitating towards each other, but conveniently turn a blind eye when they are mercilessly taunting each other?

I'll admit, my heart went out to Raavi when she hugged Dhara and started sobbing. The past few days we have started noticing more about Shiva and how is mental health must be affected by her words and the way she acts with him - however, that does not diminish the mental trauma that she has been going through as well and it's clearly written on her face. They have both been through so much at the expense of each other and it's heartbreaking to see her finally breakdown - and to have to turn to the one person who may have been her confidante in the past, but now is someone who just wants to sweep things under the rug or beat the concept of 'respect' into people. These are the times I wish there was someone else - someone not from the Pandya Parivar who could have gathered Raavi in their arms and given her the consolation she needs.

A nitt picky side note - but why is Rishita always tasked with the responsibility of bringing water whenever there is some family showdown/breakdown going on? What is the need to bring this up all the time? I know it's barely relevant but it just irked me

I didn't really understand Gaumbi's pajama reference but I got the gist. Why is his first reaction to yell at Shiva when moments ago they were worried about Shiva's whereabouts? It just doesn't sit well with me that right of the bat, Gaumbi's instinct was to yell at Shiva rather than asking him what's wrong. He is supposedly the most level headed out of all of them but somehow he seems to see the worst in his brothers as opposed to others, especially Shiva.

I personally didn't find what Shiva said was wrong. His language this time was completely different and in my opinion he was just stating that Raavi likes a certain type of boys and I don't meet her preference. I might have misinterpreted it but to me it didn't seem to be questioning her character. Obviously it's world's difference than what he said yesterday - but Gaumbi didn't know what he said, then why was his reaction so extreme? And again, what is it with everyone's immediate reaction resorting to violence? Side note: it was bit comical to watch as well, a bit poor acting in my opinion from Kinshuk's side. On top of that, his broken record of "maan toh karaha hai tujhe..." was annoying af.

Again, Raavi cannot put her point across without demeaning Shiva in the process. Why? "Rakshas", "Vaisa ka vaisa hi hai" - and then you claim that you don't think about him in that way and your views have completely changed since the marriage. I understand that he acted out and that must make you question your thoughts about him, but how did you do a complete 180 in the span of a day? How is anyone supposed to believe that you like him for him if whenever the going gets tough, all you can do is spew venom towards him? I mean clearly you don't regret what you used to say about him and somewhere in the back of your mind still believe it to be true. One thing she got right was that he doesn't respect her at all but I hope she realizes that she doesn't either.

I don't think I fully understood how digusting Shiva's words were due to some translation issues until today and this is the time that I felt Gaumbi and everyone else's anger was justified. No amount of anger or pain excuses what he said and I simply cannot stand behind it, no matter how much my heart goes out to him or sympathizes with him. It was despicable. But then again, why?!?! WHY do Gaumbi and Suman resort to physical violence? Has the daanda kaand not taught anyone anything? Why can this anger not be expressed with words? Why this show of physically hurting someone because you can't adequately express what you're feeling with your words?

For the sake of my sanity, I am ignoring any reactions from Dev and Rishita - so don't be surprised if you don't find any further mention of them.

Kanta Kaki, thank you for telling them both sides otherwise the blame game would have only fallen on Shiva - however, that's the extent of my support for you. You only seemed to sympathize with Shiva's bezatti and not Raavi's - and I don't agree with that at all. Lines such as "ek pati ke liye kitni bezatti ki baat hogi tu kya jaanthi hai" don't sit well with me at all. Of course, this may just be an assumption of mine but from your words it seemed to me that you were okay with what Shiva did but not Raavi. Again, I could be totally wrong.

Not going to dwell on Anita and Maami's scene - it was just another receptive scene with them having the same roundabout script. Nothing to talk about here except the foreshadowing of Raavi leaving the house

What I liked is that Raavi didn't beat around the bush, owned up to the fact that she slapped him, and owed it to an impulsive reaction to his words. Had she said these words last episode as well, I would have liked it much better. But at least, I'm glad that she left it at yes, I slapped him and didn't dive into her whole spiel about how his junglee mannerisms have rubbed off on her.

Suman throws a fit yet again - am I glad that her anger has shifted a bit from Shiva to Raavi? Yes, absolutely. But she's completely lost it with her throwing around stuff. She's always threatening everyone with her daanda - how are Dhara and the brothers not going to be affected by such an upbringing? When she resorts to threatening physically violence to shut them up all the time, how are they not supposed to learn that this is the way to solve problems?

I don't really have a specific reaction to Dhara to be very honest. Neither was I disappointed, nor affected nor interested to be honest in what she had to say - whether she was taking Raavi or Shiva's side. Her character has become so wish washy post-marriage that anything that comes out of her mouth has no weightage for me. I simply don't care for her over the top reactions. She still cannot seem to differentiate between right and wrong, when and when not to support Shiva - it's annoying and not worth it.

Again, Suman stopping Dhara had no effect when she does the same thing. It's hypocritical to me. I can feel her pain whenever Shiva is insulted and hit but that's due to Kruttika's amazing acting. Otherwise, all she knows how to do is preach. That being said, I am glad she finally said what we all wanted to hear - separate, mf please separate. All the other times she has threatened that if Raavi leaves then she'll never be able to come back but this time she's giving the green light herself - thank fcuk. Side note: what was the weird music they put in when she declared that? it was a happy tune, was it the makers trolling us because they knew we wanted a separation?

I liked the little tidbit of insight that Suman gave on her own marriage - a true comparison between what she had and what ShiVi are sorely lacking in their marriage - the major component being respect and she recognizes that neither of them currently harbor any respect for the other.

Here goes Raavi again, putting them blame all on Shiva girl, just because you were determined on compromising and adjusting to this forced marriage, doesn't mean you had any respect for the marriage and the relationship you shared with Shiva. It's a two way street.

I was okay with Shiva's anger and was expecting it too, fine whatever - we get it, you get angry all the time woohoo. But I didn't like that he said "bahoth badi nak wali hai na" in response to her saying that she can't live with someone that questions her character. To me that shows he isn't regretful about what he said.

What really made me mad and I might just be overthinking it, but I rewatched this part three times to be sure and I swear to god Shiva smirked when Suman told Raavi to pack her things up and leave. He had a hint of relief in there and man it sent me soaring in rage. Nope, I don't like it - I don't like it at all. I really hope I am just seeing things or it was editing or it just wasn't there and I have gone crazy.

Keeping my other thoughts about her aside, I highly appreciate Suman from this scene onwards. She told Raavi to leave - YES. She told Shiva to leave - YES. She's the only one that seems to understand that both of them have wronged each other and both of them deserve to deal with the consequences. This is a step away from the typical mother in law who is obsessed with her son and can't see right or wrong - THIS is what we like to see!! YES!!

My most favorite scene hands down --> Suman telling Shiva that Raavi slapping him was wrong but he was equally wrong for questioning her character.

And now I finally see that guilt on Shiva's face, I see the regret and my heart sighs in relief - not because I want him to wallow in misery but because I know that he is capable of learning from the error of his ways and making up for it. He has that maturity and understanding. Raavi, on the other hand, I have no such expectations from her. All I see is anger and more anger - I really don't think they're heading towards a track where she realizes her own mistakes as well. But who knows maybe we'll be surprised?

The way his gaze lingers on Raavi for more than just a second, the guilt and sadness in his eyes AHHH. I don't want him falling into the pit of self-hatred again, he doesn't deserve it after all that he's been through. Please don't do him dirty anymore, please.

Overall - I am taking back my extreme dark red and replacing it with yellow. As I mentioned before, I was pretty disheartened with the back and forth insults and threats of physical violence which is why it cannot be green for me but watching it the second time around with a clear mind, I liked the episode significantly better. Content wise it's headed on the right track thanks to Suman picking up on the real problem and dare I say - I'm hopeful?

If you made it to the end of this post, I salute you

Where should I be if I'm at "too terrified to even watch the episode" ? 🤔🤔🤔