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Originally posted by: Transference

Fabulous post @ML

Well, I have been subtly pointing out to the mild Oedipal clinging of the men towards Dhara.

You have and they took it up a notch yesterday. It was disgusting.

That's where I have problems with the storytellings of ITV overall. The women are myopic, and are shown only catering to the family and not to individualist sentiments.

They are projected as ‘knowing-it-all’ and home-wise. The vision of their world is that of a perpetual purblind confined to the corridors of their house and their families. There are so many layers to women in normal lives, but ITV is obsessed with making them sacrificial lambs and scapegoats for any form of wrongdoings of others.

This!! I thought this show would explore more. Someone on this forum made a comment a while back around wedding track how each woman in the family can grow and learn from i e another and I was so looking forward to it. Instead we get still same, entitled brat Rishita, and Mahanta ki murat Dhara. Gosh she wasn't even this sobbing dukiyari person when their store was gone and she was fighting to keep the family intact. She was the pillar to keep everyone together and make Gaumbi's mood right after the godhbhari scene. Here, she doesn't leave a chance to play bichari with em parivar crap. I miss the old Dhara. But they have to make her apologize for me to ever connect with her in future.

The case here is that of badly raised men by both Gambi and Dhara, and their unhealthy adult obsession with their Bhabhi.

I had time and again reiterated that they are so attached to Dhara that every form of their emotional need is catered by her. They barely have space for other men or women in their lives.

Yup. It's pretty pathetic to think about it. They all should stay bhramachari their whole life in that case. If Dhara raised them well, she should have thought them importance of wife in their lives. She should have had that conversation with Dev when he was about to get married and with Shiva the night he got married. Gaumbi should have taught him about keeping balance in both wife and mother and importance of wife. If they're gonna have anymlre gyaan episodes, this is the one gyaan I am looking forward to from Gaumbi to his two brothers. Even in Suraj Bharatiya film, HSSH, they had this scene, but here all we get is weird twisted way of asking couple to be together.🙄

Marriages, though initially started as business alliances and sexual Transactions, have evolved in the modern day to seek fulfilment physically and emotionally.

The problem with these man-children is that they have no value for a relationship like marriage. They see it as an extension of their family but not as a life-changing moment for them.

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No woman adores a man who is that obsessed with his maternal figure. Dhara should let it go naturally rather than making it an emotional burden on anyone of them.

Correct! It's a huge 🚩🚩🚩. It's one of the first things I try to guage when I go on dates. I wish they'd shaped Dhara's character to be more like older sister bff as they grew older and came closer, instead of taking this route. You tend to share more intimate details with your siblings then mom.

It's juvenile on Dhara’s part to expect the new women to fit perfectly like pieces of puzzles in their daily life without an iota of empathy about what the other women would probably want from their marriage and lives.

Yup. Not all women are the same. They have different backgrounds, are different individuals, and hence have different wants and needs. But does she truly have that much experience and maturity to understand that? Nope. But she goes around being gyaani middle age woman.

Someone is reprimanded for wanting ‘me time’ with her husband; someone is forced to play wife to an already complex relationship. It's hugely suffocating in the name of the greater good.

It's insane even to think about the mental, emotional and physical trauma everyone is going through in this process.

Arey marriages are not to be disciplined. They are nurtured with care, love and compassion!

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Effing madness Dhara; cooking food separately is not going to bring people closer.

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It's like telling people, “listen, you better start playing husband -wife to each other or else, I will cut you off.”

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This is plain annoying and uncalled for. The relationship between Shiva-Dhara was so warm and charming once, but now it appears toxic and suffocating.

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Haha, what's your name or how would you like to be addressed by?

I always enjoy reading your in-depth well, thought out analysis! Truly a treat. And this one doesn't disappoint! You've said everything so eloquently. I wish we can share this thread with makers on insta.

Originally posted by: Mountains_Lakes

I loved this show for it's charm. I used to love Dhara-Shiva bond. The way he felt her pain when people took jabs at the godhbhari function, the way he stood by her in Dev fiasco, the way he openly told GauRa that they unnecessarily take advantage of him, the way they bonded after Kidnapping, it was beautiful.

However, Shiva recognized Dhara's partiality in yesterday's episode. It wouldn't ruin their bond if he admits that she's a human and can make mistakes, wrong decisions, and have error in judgement. But what do we get today? Bhabhi worshipping Devar.

This obsession of both Dev and Shiva for how Dhara always makes the right decisions and will stand by her no matter what may come is very unhealthy. If anything, Raavi was 100% right today. Shiva himself sees the trouble her stupid decision is causing for everyone. But what was with his reaction of,"how dare Raavi speak something negative of Dhara?!" Raavi has equal rights to be upset with her. Especially when she's getting punishment and lectures for things that she was never involved in. And it breaks my heart that Shiva even after acknowledging that Raavi's feeling his pain more than he is, didn't appreciate her gesture. Raavi maybe fine now, but will it always be like this? No girl wants to be the second woman in their man's life. Can he find an equal place in his heart for his wife in future. Can her opinion of his ever matter to him? Will he ever be able to understand Dhara's a human and remove her from the high pedestal that she's placed in his life? Will he ever be able to take a stand for Raavi against Dhara? I hope he does give Raavi that respect. Because she may not have raised them like a mom, but she's made great sacrifices, forgave a lot of things and unjust that his family has inflected on her.

A humble request to please make everyone realize that though Dhara's intensions are right, her way of doing things aren't. Please stop making her seem like mahanta ki murat with 100% correct decisions 100% times.

The makers are including things Which people hate in original version.

In original version I like Kathir (shiva) so much but the only thing I don't like in him is he worship his Bhai and Bhabhi. Even if they do a mistake both Kathir and jeeva will say what Bhai and Bhabhi doing is correct.

They made changes in Shiva's characterization compared to original version. Kathir is introvert, respects elders (most of the time), he won't express himself. They just took anger management issue and Bhabhi obsession from original version that too with extended version.

Here they are making dhara as main lead of the story but in original version they give equal importance to all the 3 Jodi's and Krish.

In Tamil version suman is not so healthy and she loves Dhanam(dhara) as her daughter. She doesn't like some thing about Meena(rishita ).

They are unnecessarily making Anitha as a third angle. That is not needed as they have two couples to concentrate who is having so much potential in them.

Originally posted by: Mountains_Lakes

Haha, what's your name or how would you like to be addressed by?

I always enjoy reading your in-depth well, thought out analysis! Truly a treat. And this one doesn't disappoint! You've said everything so eloquently. I wish we can share this thread with makers on insta.

You can call me Piu! I always love discussing with everyone of you and guess what the show leaves a lot of scope to be desired You topic was fabulous and trust me, no one behaves the way Dhara is trying to make Shiva-Raavi come together.

But you all have literally signed up for what you are not liking, this show in telugu version is titled "Vadinamma" which literally translates to bhabhi maa, that means the show would always mostly revolve around Dhara and her devars lives around her. This is a family drama, love stories are only added to spice it up a bit.

Originally posted by: Mountains_Lakes

A humble request to please make everyone realize that though Dhara's intensions are right, her way of doing things aren't. Please stop making her seem like mahanta ki murat with 100% correct decisions 100% times.

to cover up her violent attack on dem......she is doing all this.......i understand separation ka intention might be good.......(which i dont find good), but when she was going to separate dem due to anger, mara kyun and not 1 slap.....she kept hitting dem even after that goddamn danda broke......

itna maarne mein bhi hidden acchhai thi????? got to be joking......i dont care about her, her thinking, her waterworks, her sorry......in short her existence....

one day will come when out of these 3 someone will say she is wrong.......coz she is......she isnt human?????? humans make mistakes......

she is not at all mahan......usne apne mahan hone ki keemat wasul ki hai raavi and shiva ki shaadi karke....

Originally posted by: maanmeet1

to cover up her violent attack on dem......she is doing all this.......i understand separation ka intention might be good.......(which i dont find good), but when she was going to separate dem due to anger, mara kyun and not 1 slap.....she kept hitting dem even after that goddamn danda broke......

itna maarne mein bhi hidden acchhai thi????? got to be joking......i dont care about her, her thinking, her waterworks, her sorry......in short her existence....

one day will come when out of these 3 someone will say she is wrong.......coz she is......she isnt human?????? humans make mistakes......

she is not at all mahan......usne apne mahan hone ki keemat wasul ki hai raavi and shiva ki shaadi karke....

Sorry to say but what you're expecting won't happen in this show, you would get to see more and more sacrifices made by Dhara for the family and her devars always standing up for her.

Originally posted by: --Amulya--

Sorry to say but what you're expecting won't happen in this show, you would get to see more and more sacrifices made by Dhara for the family and her devars always standing up for her.

see i dont mind dem praying her everyday.....she did things for dem....its their choice but when she is way out of line, someone will have to do it and i feel someone will.........i so wish ......

but possibility of what u said is more likely to happen

Originally posted by: --Amulya--

But you all have literally signed up for what you are not liking, this show in telugu version is titled "Vadinamma" which literally translates to bhabhi maa, that means the show would always mostly revolve around Dhara and her devars lives around her. This is a family drama, love stories are only added to spice it up a bit.

And I am okay with it. In fact, I was lookit forward a good balanced, light-hearted family show, like BBB or SGP. But they changing this into evil vamp, freeze frame, dhoon tananana TRP type of show with Dhara being the center of it. Everything is from her pov and how she feels on things should be. No individual remains the same throughout their lives and no is is black or white. Everyone has shades of grey. But here, makers are trying to portray Dhara's perfect. They all need some character growth, including Dhara, but it seems stagnant.

And while romance is to dd spice to the show, I want it realistic. Dhara and for that matter anyone can't make other people to fall in love. Her weird twisted way of seeing someone who she claims to be her baccha is self-harming himself to talk to her, but she stops. Why because she sees his wife coming. Is that really the right way? Though only two seconds, that burn can aggravate, she'd preferred her "baccha" to have additional pain because she thinks she's right. She could have taken the stick away and let Raavi tend to him to serve her purpose.

Her heart maybe in the right place, but her ways aren't especially when it comes to parenting. And she needs to learn that.

Unfortunately, what you're saying is the way this show seems to be headed. If it continues, then I'll probably just leave as it's not what I thought I signed up for. May cach up on ShiVi scenes if there are any.

and please what was regarding the Godh bharaai i only starting watching the show during the boys were getting married ,why i was not watching because the ways she wakes them up throwing the bucket of water and they are saying thankyou bhabi and during the boys were getting married she took all the missions into her hand did not let the mother of the boys know about any thing and plus her husband sported her wrong doings ,what the Ravi and Shiva have not got a heart or sense of thinking they are not dummies , i know practically the mens who prays other women and worship them how it feels though it is been long time ago but you cant forget and burns are never healed though in your head you forgive but cant forget the pain .