Is Shiva being treated fairly...?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I saw the pressure cooker promo and understandably we all are pretty upset about it.

If I'm being honest I've been on tender hooks ever since this Kesar track started.

I know Shiva means well but the whole idea of pranking Rishita was a recipe for disaster.

I am digressing now so I should get to the topic at hand.

I feel Dhara takes Shiva for granted.

Now hear me out before sending a shower of shoes my way.

Shiva loves his family. Most importantly he loves his Dhara bhabhi.

And rightly so. She did raise the kids.

But I do not agree with how Dhara takes that unwavering love as an excuse for pretty much lashing out her frustrations at Shiva.

He loves and respects you. Worships you like God. How about you give him the same love and respect in return?

I just feel that Shiva shouldn't have to suffer for his unconditional unwavering love for his Bhabhi.

I just feel he shouldn't be taken for granted.

Again, apologies for the long rant. If I offended anyone, I apologize. It was unintentionally done. 😊❤️

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I too feel the same.

But shiva gave her this right.

So i dont think he will blast at her anytime soon.

Though I wish to see that

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I agree. His unconditional love is taken for granted

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Yes, I feel the same.


It's like Shiva said jokingly that they take advantage of his unconditional love for them, but here I think it was too much.


The first time I hated it was during bus scene. Shiva has every right to be angry and it seems Gaumbi understands him. So why didn't they talk to him about how he feels. Neither Dhara nor Gaumbi still has talked to him about how he feels. All of their conversations have been about what he has to do and how his life with Raavi will be. But he never had an opportunity to discuss what he feels about everything that happened. His life took a u-turn too. And then when he vents out in frustration, Dhara openly threatens him that she'll hit him with Belan if he doesn't hug it out and it's not a way to behave with older brother. Heck she even goes on to tell him we are family so if one makes mistakes, the other has to happily face the burnt. So why does this rule apply only for Shiva? Why not Dev? Sure Shiva played prank, so by her logic and bandaid mentality, why can't she tell others to suck it up like she told Shiva? Shiva probably won't do it again. But instead she goes on her crying spree with with Dandas. Her character lately has been so inconsistent. The other day, she didn't want to playfully slap him front of his wife, but today she wants to beat him up like a younger child front of the whole family?! Gosh he's a married man. Treat him like you did with Dev. Why don't you understand him like you did with Rishita and sit and talk to him like you did with Dev. But here, it feels because Shiva loves and respects her so much, he's been taken a granted for. Hope Suman puts things in perspective for her and speaks up in Shiva's defense.

Edited by Mountains_Lakes - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mountains_Lakes

Yes, I feel the same.


It's like Shiva said jokingly that they take advantage of his unconditional love for them, but here I think it was too much.


The first time I hated it was during bus scene. Shiva has every right to be angry and it seems Gaumbi understands him. So why didn't they talk to him about how he feels. Neither Dhara or Gaumbi still has talked to him about how he feels. All of their conversations have been about what he has to do and how his life with Raavi will be. But he never had an opportunity to discuss what he feels about everything that happened. His life took a u-turn too. And then when he vents out in frustration, Dhara openly threatens him that she'll hit him with Belan if he doesn't hug it out and it's not a way to behave with older brother. Heck she even goes on to tell him we are family so if one makes mistakes, the other has to happily face the burnt. So why does this rule apply only for Shiva? Why not Dev? Sure Shiva played prank, so by her logic and bandaid mentality, why can't she tell others to suck it up like she told Shiva? Shiva probably won't do it again. But instead she goes on her crying spree with with Dandas. Her character lately has been so inconsistent. The other day, she didn't want to playfully slap him front of his wife, but today she wants to beat him up like a younger child front of the whole family?! Gosh he's a married man. Treat him like you did with Dev. Why don't you understand him like you did with Rishita and sit and talk to him like you did with Dev. But here, it feels because Shiva loves and respects her so much, he's been taken a granted for. Hope Suman puts things in perspective for her and speaks up in Shiva's defense.


I agree with you. I don't think any form of beating was required at all. It is not okay period. And the way she was hitting him in the promo was just heartbreaking. And about her character being inconsistent, it is just poor writing. She didn't pull up Dev even once for his behaviour with Shiva. She forces shiva to accept this sudden 360 degree turn in his life overnight. The thing is I feel bad for her sometimes as well. I am sure it is very difficult when everybody literally blames you for everything . So I empathised with the pressure cooker part but she didn't any right to take it on her kids.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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To be honest, I haven't been on the forum in such a long time, so I don't know the pulse of reactions... but all I can say is that I was very angry/upset when I saw the pressure cooker promo. Despite loving Shiva, I do think he needed to "reflect" about his prank. Unlike Krish who never saw the brunt of Rishita's reaction during the initial prank, Shiva did. Yet, he knowingly wanted to scare her more... so yes, he deserves some type of punishment... but definitely not in the form of a beating in front of the entire family. He and Krish are grown men, and by beating them, they are probably going to become even more recluse and hidden with their feelings. Shiva already is showing every sign of not telling Dhara or Gaumbi of his true feelings, and even Krish seems to hide things (especially when considering Shiva knew about the cigarettes but Dhara never did).


Not to mention what Rishita and Raavi would think. Rishita already doesn't have the best of opinions on anyone in the family, and after knowing it was an entire prank plotted by Shiva and played out by Krish, I fear for how ridiculously angry/nasty she'll become in the future. Gaumbi's words might not even calm her or make her understand. And seeing Dhara beat those two will only reinforce her hatred/belittling nature for Shiva and Krish... and then Raavi... yikes... you really think Raavi will fall head over heels for a man who was beaten in front of the entire family? If anything, she might be reminded of everything yet again and be uncomfortable at the fact of marrying Shiva


Maybe I'm way over my head, but hitting/beating is never the way to teach anyone (kid or adult) a lesson. If you're able to peacefully speak to Dev about your concerns, why can't you peacefully speak to Shiva and Krish? Tell them how it wasn't good to carry out their second prank, especially after knowing Rishita's initial reaction... Tell them if they really wanted Rishita to be nice, to just talk to Gaumbi and her and brainstorm ideas of doing something so Rishita respects them...


And god, Dev... it took him forever (I know it's only been 4-5 days in the show, but in the other versions, he apologized the same day of the marriage, so I'm not cutting him any slack here) to apologize. Seeing Dhara treat Shiva and Krish this way... it only reinforces the idea of, "I'm your older brother! I'm always right, and you're the younger one who's never grown up, so you have to be wrong"


IDK, I agree... she does seem to take his adoration for her granted. But maybe it's because she's never known a life without Shiva respecting her every decision, so she knows she can do whatever she wants, and Shiva will still respect her words....

Edited by milkcakejamun - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mountains_Lakes

Yes, I feel the same.


It's like Shiva said jokingly that they take advantage of his unconditional love for them, but here I think it was too much.


The first time I hated it was during bus scene. Shiva has every right to be angry and it seems Gaumbi understands him. So why didn't they talk to him about how he feels. Neither Dhara or Gaumbi still has talked to him about how he feels. All of their conversations have been about what he has to do and how his life with Raavi will be. But he never had an opportunity to discuss what he feels about everything that happened. His life took a u-turn too. And then when he vents out in frustration, Dhara openly threatens him that she'll hit him with Belan if he doesn't hug it out and it's not a way to behave with older brother. Heck she even goes on to tell him we are family so if one makes mistakes, the other has to happily face the burnt. So why does this rule apply only for Shiva? Why not Dev? Sure Shiva played prank, so by her logic and bandaid mentality, why can't she tell others to suck it up like she told Shiva? Shiva probably won't do it again. But instead she goes on her crying spree with with Dandas. Her character lately has been so inconsistent. The other day, she didn't want to playfully slap him front of his wife, but today she wants to beat him up like a younger child front of the whole family?! Gosh he's a married man. Treat him like you did with Dev. Why don't you understand him like you did with Rishita and sit and talk to him like you did with Dev. But here, it feels because Shiva loves and respects her so much, he's been taken a granted for. Hope Suman puts things in perspective for her and speaks up in Shiva's defense.


I agree Shiva is always taken as granted bcoz everyone knows he will do anything for his Dhara Bhabhi, Gaumbi, Maa.

& For matter I feel Raavi's pain is also being sidelined bcoz everyone knows that these 2 even after soo much pain, frustration won't ever think of breaking family and always listen to them.

Always Shiva should understand and Raavi should move forward.

But not once anyone asks Dev to appologize and once Dhara raised her voice the next second started crying that she shouldn't have done that. Should give time to understand Rishita.

But no thinks how difficult it is for Raavi to live when whole house members who are surrounding her broke her trust and freaking used her.

Gaumbi bcoz was scared for his brothers life so planned to get him married to Raavi. Why dude when u now know he is love with someone else should have simply cancelled the wedding, but no and say me and Dhara too were not in love.

It annoys me Shiva got married to the person he says he hates. But everyone wants these 2 move forward that too in what 4 days ?

The people who got everything according to them, as they shifted to Hawali so room, dinning, bathroom wala drama is at hault but I am sure would have happened there. They go everything according to them but unko pyaar se samjhayenge bhale kitni insult kare dusra sirf shakal dekhe. But pyaar se

Shiva ka kya hain woh toh baat maan he lega, samjha lenge, samjh lega, against nahi jaega this is the attitiude I am seeing in Gaura towards Shiva and for Raavi too.


Beating Shiva out of the line bcoz I love Dhara but no mum should beat their kid in front of their wives specially when they are not even in good terms, yaha toh poore ghar ke samne ho raha hain.

Yes Shiva did too much with the prank agreed but if Gaura has patience and is ok to be insulted then it doesn't mean Shiva too is immune to it.

Hume Rishita ko samjhna chahiye but hum Raavi ko 4 din mein bhul kar aage badhne bolenge kya zaroorat hain to know what she feels. Shiva ko samjhne ki zaroorat nahi hain bcoz he won't break the family so talk do whatever anyone please with Shiva.

Promo r always misleading I hope Dhara is not getting scolded by Suman and this beating is not something serious.


Sorry for rambing but ya I wanted to say this from long the way Shiva was being treated just bcoz he doesn't show his emotions on his face no one is caring what he wants and how he feels.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Agree with what you said on Raavi too. Instead of telling them that they'll be happy and move on..maybe they should have allowed her to vent it all out. And not just Dhara, Gaumbi owes an apology to Raavi as well. He was the reason and his one decision ruined Raavi's life.


Honestly, of those who knew from the family, the only person's reaction I have liked is Krish's. He didn't tell her anything ordinary. He told her he misses her old friend, respected her as he did before and gave her advise to respect herself first. And the way he decided to change her mood with love angle was ❤️. But Dev, Rishita and Gaumbi, all need to apologize to Raavi. Rishita for being so insensitive on that day.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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@ Shinyshine

Sorry,meant to quote your post in above response

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: MeDHellsAngel

I too feel the same.

But shiva gave her this right.

So i dont think he will blast at her anytime soon.

Though I wish to see that

No he wouldn't.

That's what breaks my heart.

That poor li'l bean deserves better.😭

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