Qarz E Jaan (HUM) #4 - Usama, Nameer, Yumna | DT.N. Pg 136 - Page 56

Originally posted by: Sparkle232

The way he tried to touch her forehead, tried to apply ointment on her hand gave sexual predator vibes. They should address this issue properly instead of brushing it off.

I don't think they will show any explanation on why bisma didn't agree to go with asim. I wanna know how will she let nashwa marry that man.

Another point is bakthiyar said ammar is just like his chachu which means nashwa's dad too did crimes against woman. It's crazy that not a single man in that house are sane.

Yes yes, thanks for reminding that. Bakhtiyar mentioned that while hitting ammar during maheen's case. He clearly said he is just like his chachu. So, behzaad also committed enough crimes n probably bisma endured alot during those days.

Originally posted by: Stormborn01

So the Maheen case is a built up journey in the show which we will obviously come back to, #1. Then the other important thing to remember is that this is NOT Ammar’s first rodeo. He’s had multiple FIRs registered against him. This isn’t just your regular toxic household, this is a CRIMINAL family. Ammar isn’t the only one either. Behzad is implied to have been the same. Then Bakhtiyar and Barkat Bibi are small time criminals themselves with how they cheated the villagers out of their land, Asim out of his own property and that whole construction site fiasco. So the criminal shades are very much in place in the entire household.

The only people who would bat an eye when it comes to Ammar are Sidra - who has lashed out about Ammar deserving to be in jail but nobody was willing to listen to her. Then the other two are Nashwa and Bisma who have zero agency in that house. If you don’t have agency and are dependents on the likes of Bakhtiyar and Barkat then you just make do. The little outbursts that Nashwa has with Ammar is the most threatening she can afford to be in that place.

I like the realistic take on this. Criminals are always safe in such households. There’s either denial protecting them, or enablers or people who know they’re wrong but have no agency to do anything about it.

There’s also a deliberate way this has been written. Where you start off with the rape case and now it’ll get reopened once Ammar gets married. We will come back to it once it’s even more complicated for Nashwa than before.

That's a valid point.

It seems like they wanted to highlight how criminals from influential backgrounds often get away scot-free. Every day, we hear about politicians, their family members, and associates being involved in serious crimes, like assaulting women, yet they are never held accountable. They walk around without facing any consequences, and the people around them act as if nothing happened. This could be why Ammar is still roaming freely despite the FIR—because Bakhtiyar is an influential figure. Infact, like yiu mentioned bakhtiyar and barkhat themselves are criminals. Perhaps, people around them are used to it.

Originally posted by: Sparkle232

That is enough for me. Constantly getting mocked for my every opinion just because I called out targetted hate of an actor and expressed my like for a sane ship. When in the same forum I hyped other ship from the same show at beginning, that was celebrated but now it is being ridiculed and shammed. Sorry for seeing characters as characters instead of judging characters by the actors playing it.

This is my last post here.

You two are the good people I found here. Thank you guys♥️.

Hey, plz don't leave.

I completely understand that this might be new to you, and it can be difficult to navigate. We’ve experienced similar shaming and ridicule since the TB days, simply because we supported that couple. We were mocked for questioning the behavior of the audience's favorite hero and for supporting the female lead when people started body-shaming Yumna. It feels like the same situation is unfolding now—apparently, it's acceptable to body-shame or criticize someone’s appearance if they aren’t your favorite. That being said, I’ve made my position clear from the beginning—I’m not concerned with Usama, Nameer, or anyone else involved. My focus is solely on Yumna, as I admire her acting. I would have spoken out even if Nameer had been the one being body-shamed. You don’t have to be a fan of anyone to stand up against what’s wrong.

It wasn’t just you, me,—many people expressed their concerns about the negativity here. We understand the difference between "criticism" and "bashing," as well as "body-shaming" and "opinions on style." When opinions cross the line into body-shaming, that’s when it becomes an issue. So no, you weren’t wrong, and you definitely don’t need to leave.

Originally posted by: Sparkle232

That is enough for me. Constantly getting mocked for my every opinion just because I called out targetted hate of an actor and expressed my like for a sane ship. When in the same forum I hyped other ship from the same show at beginning, that was celebrated but now it is being ridiculed and shammed. Sorry for seeing characters as characters instead of judging characters by the actors playing it.

This is my last post here.

You two are the good people I found here. Thank you guys♥️.

Please don't leave you are the best person here and ignore those toxicity also I'll recommend you to watch ATSH you'll love it

Ignore it Alishba sweetie ❤️

Originally posted by: anikamathur

Ignore it Alishba sweetie ❤️

Sure thing. I'm shocked at her friends defending her doxing of members, calling me a hater constantly. And then calling Nameer a rapist. Those were removed. Jesus.

IF is a crazy place.

Originally posted by: Sparkle232

That is enough for me. Constantly getting mocked for my every opinion just because I called out targetted hate of an actor and expressed my like for a sane ship. When in the same forum I hyped other ship from the same show at beginning, that was celebrated but now it is being ridiculed and shammed. Sorry for seeing characters as characters instead of judging characters by the actors playing it.

This is my last post here.

You two are the good people I found here. Thank you guys♥️.

Hi silent reader here..i occasionally post on this thread but in between it was a bit too much....Was active during TB time so thought this thread would be better considering the content is enough to discuss..I dont think you or the others have done or said anything wrong....Earlier in threads minus the show discussion only actors were discussed/dissed..so many voiced it out..but it doesnt help..you do your stuff.let others do theirs..take care

I understand Alishba but we should leave the topic and talk about QEJ

Originally posted by: Alizba63

Nope that's fine. I'm leaving. I may check in ones in a while or maybe after weekly or biweekly episodes.

Should stay here and continue shipping and VMing. My bad I cannot maintain the endurance and the passion of a shipper to fight on. I give up. It's super tiring going through the same hoops.

I really hoped to stay and not suffer the same fate as the girls who were driven off. Alas, we don't always get what we want.

But peace of mind is more important than having the last word.

Makes me wonder about what the girls said in the other threads. They told me that Man jogi and Zard was called flop by a group who claimed to be all pious. Bilal and Sajal mocked. I didn't believe them. Now I'm starting to see the real colors. Maybe they were right.

I cannot constantly have someone hint at me that I'm immoral and a hater for critiquing Usama's acting. I never shared his style posts.

Anyways, Thank you for everything guys. I sad to see things go haywire.

I have to stand my ground on why I think this whole thing happened and it has everything to do with Usama.

Maybe see you once the dust settles.

Peace.

Alizba,

Please don’t form an opinion solely based on what others tell you. You may not be aware of what happened in the forum during the TB days. While I agree that a few TB fans did cross the line, that particular other group of people often body-shamed Yumna n wahaj, mocked their appearance, style, and even criticized yumna's body. They used to attack and bully us in groups, which led many members to leave. They are still upset about the mods closing the infamous gossip thread as a result.

In this thread, I have never targeted you personally. I’ve been here since the beginning, and I've seen everyone, including me, agreeing that Usama was the weakest link in the show, and that Nameer did well in the early episodes. When shared positive tweets or VMs, some people would start bashing or ranting, even though she shared VMs of both Ammar-Nashwa and Burhan, not just the ones of Burhan as was sometimes claimed.

doesn’t even speak much—she simply shares tweets or VMs she likes. I’m not sure why she’s being accused, but from thread 1 to thread 3, some people used this as an excuse to bring up Usama's looks and personal life, which is when others expressed their displeasure.

I’m sorry, but the people you’re portraying as victims here have caused quite a bit of damage before things took this turn. I’m not sure what happened, I too didn't like or support posting those screenshots, that's the reason we didn't engage when all those screenshots were posted. I personally have never shamed anyone. I’ve only expressed my general displeasure with people shipping the FL with a character who, in my opinion, is a criminal, simply because of his looks. If this has upset anyone, I apologize. I’ll keep my opinion to myself moving forward to avoid any further division in the thread.

I also want to apologize to any Ammar/Nameer fans if my words caused any hurt. That was never my intention. Everyone has the right to express their opinions and engage as they see fit, as this is a public forum. Let’s all do what we feel comfortable with, and from here on out, let’s make an effort to avoid crossing each other’s paths. We can have different opinions but still coexist peacefully and keep the thread respectful.