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Posted: 11 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: tot-batot

As I said it is for the intellectually advanced people and they are very few. 😊

Review of Mora Piya after its last episode was aired.
http://www.dramapakistani.net/mora-piya-finale/



I stated a personal opinion. Yours was a personal attack.😆 So what? That review is just an opinion of one person, not the whole world. I understand that you liked the drama, and that's absolutely fine. But saying that a person needs to be 'intellectually advanced' to appreciate it makes absolutely no sense. So the people who didn't like it are not intellectually advanced?😆 In that case, you are probably the only person on this forum who is intellectually advanced then. In future, please do read the IF Code of Conduct before stating your views and state your personal opinion without taunting/ridiculing other's views. Ciao.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: HeavenlyBliss.


I stated a personal opinion. Yours was a personal attack.😆 So what? That review is just an opinion of one person, not the whole world. I understand that you liked the drama, and that's absolutely fine. But saying that a person needs to be 'intellectually advanced' to appreciate it makes absolutely no sense. So the people who didn't like it are not intellectually advanced?😆 In that case, you are probably the only person on this forum who is intellectually advanced then. In future, please do read the IF Code of Conduct before stating your views and state your personal opinion without taunting/ridiculing other's views. Ciao.



You need to learn the definition of what a personal attack is. Do you know what "Personal" means?
My comment was a general one mentioning word "people". Mora Piya IS for the intellectually advanced and mature audience/people. This is not just my opinion many people out there think like that. One of the reviews I have already posted. Also basically the review I posted was in reply to your baseless "deeng" that ohh nobody likes Mora Piya.

And the suggestion that you are giving me applies to you more than on me because my comment was a "general one" on the other hand your comment calling my comment a personal attack IS a "Personal attack", So yes go on do read the India Forum code of conduct. You really need it.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tot-batot

That is again a personal point of view. In my personal opinion Pani Jaisa Pyaar is not worth a watch. Roag is good. I do not have any problem with it and I am happy with people liking it or disliking it.


Pani Jaisa Pyaar's basic concept was same old "Romance". It was not something new. Mora Piya on the other hand dealt with the effects of rape and an illegitimate/unwanted child on the couple as a whole. The basic focus of Mora Piya was not romance or only "larka larki". This is what being intellectually advanced means, to be able to see that Mora Piya's concept was way more advanced and mature than Pani Jaisa Pyaar's concept. I personally do not like Pani Jaisa Pyaar. It did not grab my attention at all. I stopped watching it after an episode or so. Mora Piya on the other hand did.

But having said all this I do not have any problem with people liking Pani Jaisa Pyaar. It is their choice. People are welcome to watch and suggest it to others if they like and I will suggest what I like. Ab main nai kisi ki kanputti pai bandooq tou rakhi nahin hai kai woh zuroor hi mora piya daikhaye.


A little piece of information:
Pani Jaisa Pyaar has a stolen concept. It is based on the novel "Suhagan" by Salma Kanwal or at least big chunk of that drama is completely stolen from that novel but producers/script writers/director of that drama failed to acknowledge it. I already knew this fact even after watching first episode but just to the content of people's heart here there are other people out there who said the same thing. Read comment 64 on this page. Ohh and I love reading the comments about Pani Jaisa Pyaar on this page. People are thoroughly trashing this drama.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showbiz-pakistan/488221-paani-jaisa-pyaar-4.html


In "my personal opinion" Mora Piya was weak sauce because it was not presented the way it COULD HAVE been presented. Lack of direction, cringeworthy acting, a drag-fest, and the list goes on.

Pani Jaisa's Pyar's basic concept is the same old romance? really?
@bold: wait.. you're giving your feedback on the ENTIRE show based upon ONE episode that you watched of Pani Jaisa Pyar? 😆 you didn't even watch the entire show..your opinion on the show means absolutely zilch here because you didn't watch it. I don't think an intellectually advanced person would give an opinion on something they're completely oblivious about?.don't you think?

Moreover, you need more than just a plot to grab people's attention. I'm not sure if you just solely look for the story in a show? but I'm sorry, I like to watch the show in its entirety. No where did anyone say that Mora Piya's story sucked..and you're emphasizing only on its storyline. The performances except for Aamina's were nothing to write home about, the direction could've been way better..the story dragged and that in my books does not equal a great show. If it does in your books..then that's great to know. And, if you ACTUALLY watched PJP..then newsflash: it revolved around the same concept of rape and the aftermath of it.

Credited or not credited..it doesn't take away from the fact that Pani Jaisa Pyar is one of Hum's best shows in recent times..Sarmad's breakthrough show as a director which led him to take on Humsafar..one of Saba Qamar's best performances and the show as a whole was illustrated way better than many shows that tackle rape and the circumstances it can lead to. And, it's funny how you take pleasure in people trashing a drama that you have no clue about. 😆

I think we've just given intellectual advancement a new meaning today.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: starstruckk


In "my personal opinion" Mora Piya was weak sauce because it was not presented the way it COULD HAVE been presented. Lack of direction, cringeworthy acting, a drag-fest, and the list goes on.

Pani Jaisa's Pyar's basic concept is the same old romance? really?
@bold: wait.. you're giving your feedback on the ENTIRE show based upon ONE episode that you watched of Pani Jaisa Pyar? 😆 you didn't even watch the entire show..your opinion on the show means absolutely zilch here because you didn't watch it. I don't think an intellectually advanced person would give an opinion on something they're completely oblivious about?.don't you think?

Moreover, you need more than just a plot to grab people's attention. I'm not sure if you just solely look for the story in a show? but I'm sorry, I like to watch the show in its entirety. No where did anyone say that Mora Piya's story sucked..and you're emphasizing only on its storyline. The performances except for Aamina's were nothing to write home about, the direction could've been way better..the story dragged and that in my books does not equal a great show. If it does in your books..then that's great to know. And, if you ACTUALLY watched PJP..then newsflash: it revolved around the same concept of rape and the aftermath of it.

Credited or not credited..it doesn't take away from the fact that Pani Jaisa Pyar is one of Hum's best shows in recent times..Sarmad's breakthrough show as a director which led him to take on Humsafar..one of Saba Qamar's best performances and the show as a whole was illustrated way better than many shows that tackle rape and the circumstances it can lead to. And, it's funny how you take pleasure in people trashing a drama that you have no clue about. 😆

I think we've just given intellectual advancement a new meaning today.




Well you getting all worked up over criticism of Pani Jaisa Pyaar actually proves one point over here and that is "People do take their choices seriously" and they do get pissed off if a show of their liking is criticized unjustly in their opinion.

And yes I am giving my opinion over a whole show by watching one episode because this is what people do, yes intellectually advanced people as well because intellectually advanced people come to know that the show is not worth the watch by just watching one episode and knowing about the concept. They do not keep on watching the show even if they do not like it. 😆 I mean this is what "using your brains means".

Once again YOUR OPINION on a show does not make a show a failure neither YOUR OPINION makes a show good or bad. Neither YOUR OPINION makes a show best ever show and the show that got the director fame and all. It is all in your head.This thread was created to provide suggestions for the shows that people think are good shows and I being a member of this forum provided my opinion that thread starter should watch Mora Piya that I THINK is good. I am not hell bent on criticizing other people's choices over here. I think people need to grow up a bit.

As far as the direction/acting/production of Mora Piya goes, there are many people who think that acting in Mora Piya was really good, direction was very realistic and simplistic and production value was good.

http://www.dramasonline.com/mora-piya-ended/

You do not like my getting excited over a show trashing but you on the other hand is exactly doing the same thing that is wasting your energies on trashing a show. I do not know whether Intellectually advanced got the new meaning or not but yes "hypocrisy" here definitely got the new meaning.

And you SHOULD care about when someone's work gets stolen and not credited because that alone is enough to take away all the credibility of the creators of "charba product". That work SHOULD not give them a way to become a great director or producer or script writer or whatever you claimed and that is not my personal opinion that is the basic moral value.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tot-batot




Well you getting all worked up over criticism of Pani Jaisa Pyaar actually proves one point over here and that is "People do take their choices seriously" and they do get pissed off if a show of their liking is criticized unjustly in their opinion.

And yes I am giving my opinion over a whole show by watching one episode because this is what people do, yes intellectually advanced people as well because intellectually advanced people come to know that the show is not worth the watch by just watching one episode and knowing about the concept. They do not keep on watching the show even if they do not like it. 😆 I mean this is what "using your brains means".

Once again YOUR OPINION on a show does not make a show a failure neither YOUR OPINION makes a show good or bad. Neither YOUR OPINION makes a show best ever show and the show that got the director fame and all. It is all in your head.This thread was created to provide suggestions for the shows that people think are good shows and I being a member of this forum provided my opinion that thread starter should watch Mora Piya that I THINK is good. I am not hell bent on criticizing other people's choices over here. I think people need to grow up a bit.

As far as the direction/acting/production of Mora Piya goes, there are many people who think that acting in Mora Piya was really good, direction was very realistic and simplistic and production value was good.

http://www.dramasonline.com/mora-piya-ended/

You do not like my getting excited over a show trashing but you on the other hand is exactly doing the same thing that is wasting your energies on trashing a show. I do not know whether Intellectually advanced got the new meaning or not but yes "hypocrisy" here definitely got the new meaning.

And you SHOULD care about when someone's work gets stolen and not credited because that alone is enough to take away all the credibility of the creators of "charba product". That work SHOULD not give them a way to become a great director or producer or script writer or whatever you claimed and that is not my personal opinion that is the basic moral value.


I think you should apply "using your brains" here for a sec...because you can't really have an opinion on an ENTIRE show when you've watched only 35 minutes of it...and I repeat that. Clearly, a 35 minute episode gave you absolutely zero insight on what the entire show was about..you actually have no idea it seems. Intellectually advanced people, like yourself should really know better. So, going back to what I said (for the 10th time? 😆)..Pani Jaisa Pyar has no room for discussion when you know nothing about it apart from it being stolen. The makers are fault for not giving it credit, not the performers or the director..they don't spend their money on a show or the people on board.

@bold: of course it doesn't ..because it's merely an OPINION. 😆..just like YOUR OPINION of Mora Piya being a masterpiece which IN MY OPINION it's far from it.

Actually you're wasting your time googling links to prove a point which by the way I don't think anyone even knows what you're trying to prove here? because you're not making any sense. Suggestion..save your time and energy. I know that your ego really felt it when someone haha'd at your recommendation but it's REALLY not that big of a deal. I'm not sure what you're even trying to prove because I think we've agreed to disagree somehow here.. everyone has their own opinion yet that does NOT warrant an attack on anyone's intellect or intelligence...but, now that you HAVE started this...reality check: no one but you went off tangent to initiate this whole argument on how only certain people have the brain cells to comprehend a show. Meanwhile, those same certain people can't seem to understand how the original comment on Mora Piya being not a great show was also an opinion..just because they didn't type up a thesis paper on their opinion to please you, doesn't mean it wasn't one. Oh and if you can actually comment to this extent on an entire show based off of one episode..then I'm sure someone can haha at one show being awful after watching all of its episode...and someone talked about being hypocritical? hmmm






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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: starstruckk


I think you should apply "using your brains" here for a sec...because you can't really have an opinion on an ENTIRE show when you've watched only 35 minutes of it...and I repeat that. Clearly, a 35 minute episode gave you absolutely zero insight on what the entire show was about..you actually have no idea it seems. Intellectually advanced people, like yourself should really know better. So, going back to what I said (for the 10th time? 😆)..Pani Jaisa Pyar has no room for discussion when you know nothing about it apart from it being stolen. The makers are fault for not giving it credit, not the performers or the director..they don't spend their money on a show or the people on board.

@bold: of course it doesn't ..because it's merely an OPINION. 😆..just like YOUR OPINION of Mora Piya being a masterpiece which IN MY OPINION it's far from it.

Actually you're wasting your time googling links to prove a point which by the way I don't think anyone even knows what you're trying to prove here? because you're not making any sense. Suggestion..save your time and energy. I know that your ego really felt it when someone haha'd at your recommendation but it's REALLY not that big of a deal. I'm not sure what you're even trying to prove because I think we've agreed to disagree somehow here.. everyone has their own opinion yet that does NOT warrant an attack on anyone's intellect or intelligence...but, now that you HAVE started this...reality check: no one but you went off tangent to initiate this whole argument on how only certain people have the brain cells to comprehend a show. Meanwhile, those same certain people can't seem to understand how the original comment on Mora Piya being not a great show was also an opinion..just because they didn't type up a thesis paper on their opinion to please you, doesn't mean it wasn't one. Oh and if you can actually comment to this extent on an entire show based off of one episode..then I'm sure someone can haha at one show being awful after watching all of its episode...and someone talked about being hypocritical? hmmm



Aunty jee or uncle jee whoever you are you need to actually develop a habit of reading others comments first and try comprehending them before uttering baseless arguments. This is what being intellectully advanced means. Never once I gave my opinion on ENTIRE Pani Jaisa Pyaar show. I said I do not find Pani Jaisa Pyaar's concept good enough and worth a watch beyond that I did not mention anything about Pani Jaisa Pyaar. So yes I do not need to do PhD of all the episodes of Pani Jaisa Pyaar to comment on its concept. Especially when I have already read the novel whose pretty bad charba the show is.
And yes I do think that it is you who need to use your brains because it seems you are claiming that you watched ENTIRE Mora Piya show even though you did not like the acting or the direction or maybe the production as well but you still watched the whole show and not just watched you actually watched it with such a zeal that now you are fully entitled to comment on it. Are you for real??? I mean do you really think it is an argument of an "intellectually advanced" person? and I am not even interested in discussing Pani Jaisa Pyaar. It is not even worth it. I just compared its concept with Mora Piya and Mora Piya's concept is far better.

Also, I never claimed Mora Piya to be a masterpiece so do not lie. I just liked the overall show and its concept. It is a well made show. You really need to read on other comments first because it seems you just have the habit of bashing on the keyboard without comprehending anything. And it is you on the other hand who is "milaing zameen aasman kai qalabai" for Pani Jaisa Pyaar.

And it is once again your "khaam khiali" that directors and actors do not have anything to do with the charba thing. A product is made with a team work. When it gets successful the whole team gets to have the creadit and not just the creators so same is with the charba product. People should be careful what they are working on. Even if they did not know it before they at least should have the morality to denounce it afterwards and I am pretty sure that by now actors and director know very well that is was a stolen concept. There was a lot of hue and cry on many other forums. In fact if I am not mistaken there was an article about it in the newspaper as well. But I can see that not just those actors and director is lacking in basic morality and ethics but there are other people around as well who are miserable in this regard.

And as I mentioned before that you seem to not have the ability to comprehend comments and understand the reviews as well so let me tell you that those reviews are actually praising the acting and direction in Mora Piya which you claim is pathetic. So those reviews prove that YOUR OPINION is only YOUR OPINION. Also I fully understand that I would not be making any sense to YOU at all, maybe something to do with intellectual advancement I guess. 😉

And practice what you preach about not making a big deal out when someone criticize your choice because it seems you are exactly doing the same thing. You are getting riled up when I am criticizing Pani Jaisa Pyaar and it is very obvious. This is why you are coming up with such baseless argument that no one should or could criticize a show after watching one episode only and even trying to justify directors and actors working in a charba product. So yes as I said earlier THIS IS "hypocricy" at its best. 😊

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Bhai sahab, you're not interested in Pani Jaisa Pyar Hai yet you can not seem to drop the whole moral policing on the show not giving credit to the writer? wait who's riling up again? baffling to say the least. 😆 And LOL ..Mora Piya and Pani Jaisa Pyar have the SAME concept..but wait, you didn't even watch the latter to know that. As I said, why do you even bother comparing the two (yet say you don't care about PJP..hmm contradicting)? By the way..I think watching an entire show and then passing a judgement has far more weight than watching one episode and passing a judgement- Intellectual Advancement 101.
Oh and I could care less about the background of Pani Jaisa Pyar at the moment since it's really besides the point here. As I said before I'm really not too sure what you're point is here? From recommending/praising mora piya, to saying it's only for the intellectually advanced, to finding the need to look up how stolen Pani Jaisa Pyar really is (without even having the slightest of clue about the show as a whole)..to moral policing on charba products..to contradicting yourself. At this point, I just really have no idea where you're heading with this. My keyboard bashing shouldn't even be a problem for someone like you who actually goes ahead passing comments on people's intellect just because they didn't like a show which you liked and recommended...talk about immaturity or wait is that intellectual advancement? 😆

As I said intellectual advancement has been redefined today.
Posted: 11 years ago
#28
How hard are you trying to prove your point? Noone really cares here. 😆 We have our own opinion, you have yours. Get over it. And even after reading the COC if you still don't understand the meaning of personal attack then that's your own problem.
Posted: 11 years ago
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And btw while you're at it, you might also want to google the meaning of intellectually advanced rather than searching reviews to prove your point 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: HeavenlyBliss.

How hard are you trying to prove your point? Noone really cares here. 😆 We have our own opinion, you have yours. Get over it. And even after reading the COC if you still don't understand the meaning of personal attack then that's your own problem.



Yawnzz..right no one actually cares still people keep on commenting one after another.😉 It seems you also need to know the meaning of "no one cares" 😆.

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