Debate of the week!_Old vs New - Page 8

Originally posted by: basanthi

I guess I asked meli to reconsider her decision, but you
know her,she said No means no 😭

hey ...you decide anju di....dont blame on me na 😡 😭 😭

neenga than mod/judge... 😳

I am ready with my posting. But I am logging off now and I will check back tomorrow, say by evening. Since the other team has not posted their speech, I am waiting for them.
Have a nice weekend, all of you. :)

lets ask hilter if we can have our own threads, i find it really hard to change stuff here and give imp page numbers 😕

hello opponents. we are still waiting for
one of your members to post 😃 😃

Looks like cause of the different time zone and office days, we have to wait a
little more 🤔

Can I post again since our side members are very busy? I am already beginning to forget the topic name 😆 😆 😆

To say expressly or by implication that only "old songs" have meaningful lyrics whereas the lyrics of new songs are shallow is fallacious at best and ignorant at worst. The years that are being covered by the "Old" team have produced some of the ridiculous lyrics I have had the misfortune to hear. For example:

Ilamai idho idho

Inimai idho idho

College-u teenaged pengal

Ellorum en meethu kangal

SAKKALAKALA VALLAVAN (1982)

(In his dreams!!! 😆)

Now, what message is that song supposed to convey? That every teenage girl, who are innocent and pure, are eyeing this middle-aged Lothario and that is what "youth" and "enjoyment" is all about?? That college girls, instead of concentrating on their studies, have their eyes on a tightly-clad in gold pants Kamal who would look more at home with the Village People (see http://www.stonewallvets.org/images/TheVillagePeople.jpg) and have another group of people 😉 having their kangal on his meethu. (I still have that image of Kamal in tight gold trousers in my mind. *shudders* I know that it has nothing to do with the debate, but ladies, I never recovered!!!)

That song is just one which I can remember off my head. There is one that has sent me into a mental fit when I recall the lyrics.

Orampo, orampo, rukumani vandhi varuthu

Vangadha vandiya tazhungutha

Vandhu inge vandanatha pannunguda

And you thought

Kalyaanam thaan kattikittu oodipoolama

Illa oodi poiye kalyanam thaan kattikalama…

were bad???? 😆😆

The Orampo song was the GENESIS of what is known as double entendre lyrics. In fact, it courted so much controversy because of the double meanings and caused discomfort and unhappiness. Therefore if anything, it is the old songs that started the double meaning trend that seemed to have seized the Tamil community in a tight and relentless grip.

Now, let's talk about new songs. Yes, there are duds but there are gems as well. One song that comes to my mind is Anjali Anjali from Duet (1994)....how the lyricist plays with the feminine name "Anjali" to produce so many meaningful connotations:

anjali anjali pushpaanjali
poovae un paadhaththil pushpaanjali
ponnae un peyarukku ponnaanjali
kannae un kuralukku geethaanjali
kan kaanaa azhaghirkku kavithaanjali

Oh my God, when I heard that song, I wished that my name was Anjali. 😳

Yenna thavam seyidhanai yashotha

Yenna thavam seyidhanai yashotha

Ingum nirai para brammam – amma

Yendarazhaikka

Yenna thavam seiyidhanai aaa

Parthiban Kanavu (2003)

The song then goes on where Sneha's character describes in beautiful sentamizhil Srikanth's wacky identification of modern technological tools such as mobile phones. The awe-inspiring lyrics are used in a mesmerising manner, utilising delicious words in the most poetic language in the world to convey a meaning on par with any of Kannadasan's creations. These are just two songs that I can remember off the cuff.

I reiterate my argument that it was the old songs that started the trend of double entendre lyrics. Orampo is one example. Let me not start on maman oru naal malligai poo koduthan from Rosappoo Ravikaikari. 😡

Thank you for reading my view. It is a rebuttal and an expression of my opinion. Please don't be offended by what I have said here. I would be also grateful if except for the lyrics, everything else is expressed in English. One of the reasons why it took me some time to respond is because Tanglish puts me off and I have a hard time reading the arguments.

Thank you. 😃

Moderator madam, do we get a chance to refute any
of the arguments by opposition - like in
normal debates??? or is it just one chance per
member and later to justify/augment our stand???
Madam Hitler, are u listening???? 😃 😃

Hey, poor Basanthi, don't call her Hitler please. 😊 Ringmaster is OK, I think.... 😉 but we should leave H out.

Kartika, wrong no - addressed some one else 😳