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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Indulekha00

I have finished the second epi too, so a sorry in advance if my recall isn't limited to the first epi.

I liked the episodes. I have to say I watched them without keeping my expectations high knowing the way it is with ITV. The VFX has truly impressed me.

There is a kind of freshness in the presentation may be due to the inspirations drawn from fairy tales. Yet it is true that Gul is kind of presenting 'Nazar in a new bottle'!! Let us just hope that she would keep the irritating aspects like teary eyed hero and his tear-full emotions of entire family retrained. I am placing all my hopes on the ML and Smitha. I have watched him as Adharv (of course I dropped the show in btwn) which he portrayed brilliantly. As for the FL, I don't like her much (going by the insta clips I had seen of her last show).

In the first Epi I liked Aman better than Rosh. Though he might be the one who made her car fly, I do think he was provoked. (I wonder how many cars are going to be destroyed in the opening week itself!!!) May be he is unable to control himself in extreme anger. Otherwise he seems to be a nice enough guy, he wasn't much upset with her when he was looking at the damage she caused.

The mosque scene too was done well. He did magic openly... And the others in the mosque didn't seem too confused or curious about it. And is Aman's ability to perform magic connected to the djinn?

The only Djinn I know of is the one with Aladin, the funny lovable one. So an evil one is a new concept for me.

Looking forward to see how the story will unfold...

Indu

Jinn forum is opened now. U can continue with discussions there.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: nushy1995

Hi Alisha! Glad you found two shows to be excited about at the same time. 😊

I don't think I'll watch it anymore. But you know, I hover over different forums, I'll definitely read updates.

I think the biggest problem I had with the pilot is the way Jinn was portrayed. Nazar I could enjoy because I don't have in depth knowledge about Supernatural creatures or Hindu myth. So bloopers didn't put me off like Deepika was enraged when she didn't like Piya's Kali Avtar.

But here it's different as they are portraying a muslim family and I'll notice if something is showed otherwise. As a muslim, I do believe in Jinn and Pari. And the reality is nowhere near what has been shown. I would still give the writers creative liberty as this is only a show but everything looked like Nazar and at this point, that's not enough for me to watch a new show. 🤔 May be with time if they establish a unique story, I'll start watching.

The cast is amazing. Wish them all the best. 👍🏼 Although none can beat Piya-Divya. 😛

Deepika was right when she was angry on makers for Piya 's Kali Avtar because Piya portrayal was wrong surely and i think thats the reason for not showing Piya's Goddess avtar this Navratri. If we know certain things are wrongly shown religious wise in a show then how can we enjoy that show. Some are saying people are highly sensitive regarding religion but we cant change that fact religion is itself a very sensitive matter. NAMAH show is biggest failure because there in beginning things were wrongly shown and that has drifted audience away. We know all things cant be shown correctly as these are fiction shows but showing totally wrong is another matter.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: magicalM

Deepika was right when she was angry on makers for Piya 's Kali Avtar because Piya portrayal was wrong surely and i think thats the reason for not showing Piya's Goddess avtar this Navratri. If we know certain things are wrongly shown religious wise in a show then how can we enjoy that show. Some are saying people are highly sensitive regarding religion but we cant change that fact religion is itself a very sensitive matter. NAMAH show is biggest failure because there in beginning things were wrongly shown and that has drifted audience away. We know all things cant be shown correctly as these are fiction shows but showing totally wrong is another matter.

She was right indeed. It' s one thing to be respectful towards different opinion and give people the freedom of speech, which in this case was creative liberty. But religion is a very sacred and sensitive thing. Plus often people misinterpret other religion as they don't know the backstory of an incident or ritual. So no one should tamper with the details.

The exact same reason I am pissed off with Bahu Begum and now Jinn. Whatever they are showing it's complete deviation from the original thing.

Navratri was a disaster but it's completely due to the writer's lack of creativity. There's no reason to portray Piya as a Goddess. She is only a Daivik - a person who is blessed by Goddess and she has certain powers. If only they has shown her to use that, that would have been more than enough. But they didn't show anything. That's the problem. Makers always take the extreme route but can't stay true to their plot. Nalayek makers!!!

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: nushy1995

She was right indeed. It' s one thing to be respectful towards different opinion and give people the freedom of speech, which in this case was creative liberty. But religion is a very sacred and sensitive thing. Plus often people misinterpret other religion as they don't know the backstory of an incident or ritual. So no one should tamper with the details.

The exact same reason I am pissed off with Bahu Begum and now Jinn. Whatever they are showing it's complete deviation from the original thing.

Navratri was a disaster but it's completely due to the writer's lack of creativity. There's no reason to portray Piya as a Goddess. She is only a Daivik - a person who is blessed by Goddess and she has certain powers. If only they has shown her to use that, that would have been more than enough. But they didn't show anything. That's the problem. Makers always take the extreme route but can't stay true to their plot. Nalayek makers!!!

Frankly i dont like that pink colour dress of all in Navratri😁 and ending is not satisfying at all.😡

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Posted: 6 years ago
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You all raised some very interesting points regarding beliefs mind if i join in

Regarding Deepika raising the topic it wasn't so much because she was offended but because it was fashionable to troll on Twitter actresses ( tv serials dance reality shows etc ) who did don the maa kali avatar. And because it was exactly the type of discussions they had daily in the old forum. The same reverence they had for Daivik they had for Vedashshree. Certain members took advantage of it to play dirty politics. Result was lot of people left. You don't have to take my opinion for all this. You can check out the forums previous pages if u like. I'm only addressing this because Deepika's posted topic has been brought up in convo a lot lately.


I respect everyone's faith in this forum, in this country including my own. But i must point out there is a difference between respect & intolerance. The kind that causes disunity on forums & violence outside. (No I'm not talking about you guys.) I don't believe much in the the brand of patriotism they advertise these days. But there is one thing i do believe in. I don't believe in the concept of little India's but in one India. People of different faiths cultures...harmoniously living together to form a country.


I know you guys are just having a harmless discussion nothing else. But why bring up a topic that could potentially cause misunderstandings / hurt feelings ? Why open that door ?


Lastly I've grown on 90's television. The kind of shows they produced. It was sober compared to now. Even when they portrayed religion it was like a part of one's life, a realistic portrayal of how people lived not heavy duty melodramatic like now. The audiences also that time were more tolerant than now.


If i offended anyone with my views i apologize. You guys put up some very interesting points i wanted to share my views as well.







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Posted: 6 years ago
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You haven't offended anyone Alisha. At least not me. I can't know for sure what had happened earlier in this forum as I wasn't a regular member back then. But I did notice that not in just this particular forum, but pretty much everywhere some members just need an issue to ignite fire and attack particular actors; even their fan groups.

This one I remember as this is a comparatively recent incident. While I did agree on that misinterpretation part, I felt she was unnecessary dragging Niyati just because she essayed the role, even justified online bullying. Plus, no matter which track it was, I had noticed, she had problem with the character Piya. So I didn't want to indulge in it.

But like you said, 90s shows were brilliant, I must say, at that time even story tellers did much work on their script and didn't dramatize plots just for the sake of TRP.

Even though I am a Muslim girl, I had lots of Hindu friends back in school and college and I used to ask them a lot of questions whenever I had watched anything on TV. Plus, my elder brother being a voracious reader and for his interest in mythology, I do have some knowledge about Hindu mythology. Not in depth but enough.

When I had watched a few episodes of Ravi Chopra's Mahabharat, I was astonished. They took care of so many details and portrayed the characters as they were. But when I saw the latest version on SP, I was shocked to watch how they had dramatized the entire thing. Specially they put so much emphasis on Arjun because it was portrayed by Shaheer Sheikh while I asked a friend and she specifically told me that Yudhisthir was the hero of the original story. So that was in no way acceptable.

I have seen people mocking Muslims on social media and everywhere using just one thing - in our religion a man can have four wives and I have met some so called educated, self proclaimed atheist who say Islam is backdated pointing out to Triple Talaq. But the truth is none of those two practice is as general people perceive them to be. There are specific instructions and situations where those rituals are applicable. But unfortunately not many people know about those and when you watch these things are being portrayed in completely wrong light for the sake of dramatization, you are bound to get pissed off.

I hated Mahabharat as much as I hate Bahu Begum and this has everything to do with how they had misinterpreted things. It doesn't have anything to do with my own religion or my tolerance regarding other religions.

That is why I believe writers should be responsible enough to write the plots as they are and not for mere dramatization. This fake/misinterpreted portrayal only add fuel to the fire. That's all.

I hope you are not offended by my post.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: nushy1995

You haven't offended anyone Alisha. At least not me. I can't know for sure what had happened earlier in this forum as I wasn't a regular member back then. But I did notice that not in just this particular forum, but pretty much everywhere some members just need an issue to ignite fire and attack particular actors; even their fan groups.

This one I remember as this is a comparatively recent incident. While I did agree on that misinterpretation part, I felt she was unnecessary dragging Niyati just because she essayed the role, even justified online bullying. Plus, no matter which track it was, I had noticed, she had problem with the character Piya. So I didn't want to indulge in it.

But like you said, 90s shows were brilliant, I must say, at that time even story tellers did much work on their script and didn't dramatize plots just for the sake of TRP.

Even though I am a Muslim girl, I had lots of Hindu friends back in school and college and I used to ask them a lot of questions whenever I had watched anything on TV. Plus, my elder brother being a voracious reader and for his interest in mythology, I do have some knowledge about Hindu mythology. Not in depth but enough.

When I had watched a few episodes of Ravi Chopra's Mahabharat, I was astonished. They took care of so many details and portrayed the characters as they were. But when I saw the latest version on SP, I was shocked to watch how they had dramatized the entire thing. Specially they put so much emphasis on Arjun because it was portrayed by Shaheer Sheikh while I asked a friend and she specifically told me that Yudhisthir was the hero of the original story. So that was in no way acceptable.

I have seen people mocking Muslims on social media and everywhere using just one thing - in our religion a man can have four wives and I have met some so called educated, self proclaimed atheist who say Islam is backdated pointing out to Triple Talaq. But the truth is none of those two practice is as general people perceive them to be. There are specific instructions and situations where those rituals are applicable. But unfortunately not many people know about those and when you watch these things are being portrayed in completely wrong light for the sake of dramatization, you are bound to get pissed off.

I hated Mahabharat as much as I hate Bahu Begum and this has everything to do with how they had misinterpreted things. It doesn't have anything to do with my own religion or my tolerance regarding other religions.

That is why I believe writers should be responsible enough to write the plots as they are and not for mere dramatization. This fake/misinterpreted portrayal only add fuel to the fire. That's all.

I hope you are not offended by my post.


Not me love your insight. I'm aware of what prejudices muslims face in this country. Even my own faith i have to defend it daily. There are a lot misconceptions surrounding it.


Neither was i implying that you're not tolerant or that you were saying it because you come from a muslim background. That's like saying i don't have a right to comment because i don't come from a hindu background.


I'm merely pointing out that Deepika's example is not the right one if you're talking about flaws in interpretation of religion. Whether you agree with her views or not. You noticed i only said i didn't agree with her views nothing else. She got so offended she attacked my religion as well. Was that tolerance ?


Secondly the kind of rational discussions on religion you're proposing was possible in the 90's it is not now. That's what i meant by 90's tv shows & their audiences. We've all seen it that whether it is on India forums or other networking sites. Whenever religion is discussed someone either uses sensitivity as an excuse to stir up divisions or there's always room to misinterpret things. People invariably have to watch out for their words. In that kind of atmosphere is a discussion possible ? No i don't think so. I'm not arguing that you or M or anyone else don't have the right to get offended if u find something wrong. I do too. I'm arguing the point that the concept Religious sensitivity is now become synonymous to religious intolerance these days. You both brought up the topic. I'm adding my views to it.


Finally if i really thought you and M were intolerant i wouldn't have joined the discussion. Seeing you two so boldly discussing religion tho makes me a bit apprehensive. These kinds of conversations normally brings some backlash. Well if you guys are confident of handling it more power to you..


Regarding Mahabharat & bahu begum i'll discuss in another post.


Off to dinner Bye 🙋‍♀️

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Want to add a point here regarding 90's tv shows & their audiences. In 90's era there was not much networkings sites, no instagram, twitter but now so many social sites are there, all are bashing something or somebody seems like this has become a profession now. Even such famous celebrities like Aishwarya Rai, Priyanka chopra are trolled to TV actresses kya cheeze hai. its not like 90's audiences are tolerant now social media interference has become so much that u dont know at which point u will be trolled. Even Jokes are floated on instagram on something or somebody. Want to point out Deepika here what she was saying regarding Maa Kali was OK but she had gone too overboard with her discussion by dragging Niyati and start trolling actress also that is not ok. I think she was called hater of Piya back in nazar forum. She literally hated Piya 's character with passion and even forum members were not liking that. Ekta kapoor Mahabharat was worst version of Mahabharat i had ever seen. Even now i had read one article about showing Dinosaur in Siya ke Raam and IF trolling it. In 90's era such religious distorted shows were not there, 90 era Mahabharat was gold but nowdays makers are just dramatizing shows for TRP and not sparing even mythological show that is not right. IN 90's era such TRP pressure was not there.

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Originally posted by: magicalM

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Want to add a point here regarding 90's tv shows & their audiences. In 90's era there was not much networkings sites, no instagram, twitter but now so many social sites are there, all are bashing something or somebody seems like this has become a profession now. Even such famous celebrities like Aishwarya Rai, Priyanka chopra are trolled to TV actresses kya cheeze hai. its not like 90's audiences are tolerant now social media interference has become so much that u dont know at which point u will be trolled. Even Jokes are floated on instagram on something or somebody.


Hmm.. that's a good point you raised there. This reminds of Xena & the fan wars back then. Do you remember shows like Star bestsellers/ Zee Rishtey or Tara - 5 working women sharing a flat. There was also a track about a teenaged girl kissing a married man. Then there were shows like Dekh bhai Dekh, Shanti, Isi bahane, Banegi apni Baat ,Sea Hawks ( Milind Soman R Madhavan Niki Aneja ) then was a show on indfidelity where the father- in law was getting remarried & the daughter-in-law was having an affair much like Silsila except it was a hit back then.

Had audiences demanded Saas bahus back then they would have gotten it, those shows would'nt have stood a chance. I also am in touch with viewers of those shows. Taking all of that into consideration i'm saying tv audiences were way tolerant back then. Ironically our film audience was regressive. Our generation unfortunately died out.


But i agree with your point had Twitter been in fashion back then i shudder to think what would have happened.

Originally posted by: magicalM


Want to point out Deepika here what she was saying regarding Maa Kali was OK but she had gone too overboard with her discussion by dragging Niyati and start trolling actress also that is not ok. I think she was called hater of Piya back in nazar forum. She literally hated Piya 's character with passion and even forum members were not liking that.


You've got it wrong. She's actually a huge fan of Piansh specially Daivik. Regarding those days there was fan wars going in even within Piansh group. If i remember the last argument correctly there was dissent on Adi being aborted in Piya's womb. Anyone who didn't agree was immediately boycotted. They couldn't openly attack the members. So no Deepika is not a hater of Piya or Niyati. Her Ma kali argument was yes encouraged by the fact that everyone trolled actresses who donned Ma kali avatar not specifically Niyati.


If you remember we really were bashing Ansh too much. Even Madhura protested that why do we see Piya as faultless. From that pov doesn't make her a Piya hater.

Originally posted by: magicalM


Ekta kapoor Mahabharat was worst version of Mahabharat i had ever seen. Even now i had read one article about showing Dinosaur in Siya ke Raam and IF trolling it. In 90's era such religious distorted shows were not there, 90 era Mahabharat was gold but nowdays makers are just dramatizing shows for TRP and not sparing even mythological show that is not right. IN 90's era such TRP pressure was not there.


If you're talking about the Shaheer Sheikh one that's not Ekta's but Siddhart's. He really popularised Mahabharat. Ekta's i haven't seen so can't comment. Heard it flopped.


Yes our shows in 90's were really sober. I remember looking forward to Mahabharat & Chandrakanta on Sunday's.

I'm not sure what the rating system they had in 90's.

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I agree pre Ekta era shows were brilliant. 80s and 90s. Like old Malayalam films of late 80s and 90s esp Mohanlal's. Surprising that we came from there to here.

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