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Posted: 19 years ago
#41
i dont know much about dance but i do watch NB2, sometimes, and JDJ.
TO be honest, Manav-Shweta, Hussain-Tina, Yash-Gauri and somewhere at the end Tanaz-Bakhtyar are the only dancers in the show, though i liked Hiten-Gauri 😳 .
From Yash-Gauri and Hussain-Tina, i would definitely vote for Hussain-Tina not coz of the previous performances but the performance yesterday they gave, the K Sera Sera one was good.
From yesterday's (11th Dec) performances, the only performance which was worth watching was K Sera Sera, no other performace was worth watching, i skipped all the performances except the K Sera Sera one, even though it wasnt SUPERB but it wasnt bad either.
I won't say it's a biased opinion becuase its others who will decide if its bias or not. it's my OPINION so please take it as an opinon 😊
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Posted: 19 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: PawanHans

Hi I am a Huti fan and I saw this topic about dance forms and mentioning the topic as UNBIASED and still I can see bashing on HUTI ...it is quiet obvious that YG fans or non HUTI fans who are saying to be NEUTRAL and indirectly actually trying to bash HUTI ..

so I thought I must participate in this debate and put my points forward.... according to me none of the performers except Manav n Shweta to a extent have given such a variety of performance...lets talk abt BT ..... BT were playin to their strength always ...ask Bhaktiyar to do a blind fold or a classical I bet he will never even attempt it ??? Infact many a times BT repeated their own steps .. His Khambakt ishaq had glimpses of Berang zindagi ....and even his solo was a power dance on a soft and cute song...infact in all their dances there were certain steps which were repeated in every dance .....and the regional round they did had a mix of bhangda , film and south indian dance so they got their lowest marks in that round ...n finally in thier last performace of Yaadein they used the leaf s falling in the end ( wasnt a slow song n the leaf falling effect a little similar to Bhaon ke darmiyaan of HUTI ???)...the main reason they couldnt get higher marks in semi s is bcoz they didnt do any thing different and the judges couldnt find anything new in their performance friends.....

I didnt want to pin point anything personal but now when we are comparing the 2 couples in the finals then let me say my view point ....the Salsa of Yash n Gouri had repetation and judges mentioned it ..that they tried to pay safe and did dance on their choreographers strength and not tried anything new ..... as the Salsa was done the 2nd time round . The solo of YASH 1 luv had the most simple dance HIP HOP steps and as the judges know he not the greatest of dancers they gave him the 30 ...tell me 1 thing if Husein , Manav or Bhaktiyar did 1 luv and gave a similar or better performance then yash would they get 30 ???? No never bcoz they are good dancers the judges want them to do the tougher dance and the judgement is made on the past performances and the persons ability to dance ..if you are good you have to do a difficult dance simple as that . ..............And YG have also tried to play safe in some rounds ,if you see the wedding round please see the orginal video 80 % steps were repeated still they got the same marks as HUTI which was a much better concept and a original dance .................... And their regional round was a filmi dance there was no authenticity in that dance ,infact the judges mentioned it clearly taht your region of the dance was Indian film Industry dance and still they scored 23 .....same as HUTI who did a Maharashtrian dance like a LAVNI and Judges mention that Husien was fantastic and took the performance to a different level............Also come to talk about their performance on the Dil Se song , Satrangi re ...did it deserve a 30 ???? in the same round Huti got a 30 for their BLIND FOLD And Manav / Shweta for a Classical dance ...YG didnt deserve such high marks in that round and every 1 will agree on this ....also Haila Haila was a bad performance really bad and we all know it ....and for Aaja Gufaaon mein did have limited dance and steps and it was again more of a concept based dance....my friends on this Topic who mentioned about being great observers of dances if you see the video once more in the start of the dance the 1st 10 seconds Yash was blank n confused and Gauri guided him and then he picked up the dance .....also their dance had very simple steps and the effect came with the costume, makeup and concept..please see the video again.....Tell me who has taken a risk like Husein - Tina in NB 2 till now ??? ..some one who says this needs to see all the episodes of NB 2 again .... from berang , to their solo , Bahon ke darmiyan and Bharat Humko were all difficult performances and big risks and very different ...never seen on Nach baliye ever ........still if they cant satisfy you people then I think no one else can .... Anyways we are all free to express our opinion but dont pretend and say that you are UNBIASED AND NEUTRAL and then start bashing a jodi u dont like ...😆

Also finally I would like to say that when a judge see,s a live performance it is a totally different thing in comparison to the edited version which we see on television ...... and the impact of live dance is totally different .....they give their marks on the spot as they feel and the effect and impression it creates on their mind in that 2 MINUTES of Performance as thats the only time they have and in all fairness I must say that we cant critisize the judges as we have been doing as those guys are senior in this business and know what they are doing ......
I HOPE THE BEST COUPLE AND THE BEST DANCER ON THE DAY OF THE FINALS WINS ...YG or HUTI .......as both of them time and again have given some fantastic performances....but in terms of consitency , variety and style HUTI are leading and we all know that ........Please read my post carefully and analyze it and then make your comments
Good luck to both the couples and may the best dancing couple win !!!!!!!!!!!!

Pawan-ji.. 👏👏 Very well said..
No bashing... just plain discussion on performances.. Great!! Analysed the performances superbly well! Hats off to you.. 👏👏 Needless to say, I agree.. 😊
One more I'd like to add to this..
When Tina performed to 'Zinda Hoon Main'.. we had a couple of posts ridiculing her..saying there was nothing creative about it.. all she did was have the pain look (which was the concept, btw) and also going to the extent of calling her 'bhoot' (just coz it was a dark number) But today, when YG do a dark number.. paint their faces red & black.. and the same thing gets 'creative'?? And now people love the whole 'spooky' look & feel..
Wonder at the time, why we HuTi fans didn't raise our voice and say that Tina deserved a full 30!!
Edited by Ektaj - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: caramelcj

truly Im surprised....
once upona time we saw similar statements by fans of another jodi..
but u know the statements differ when the jodi is ur own fav..for the very same people.


the topic has crossed jodis to authenticity of forum members..

after all it was just an opinion..accepting/denying it is fine.. after all it is ur POV.. ridiculing it is totally another level

to the author of this post: im sorry ur thread has come to this stage....I feel sorry the forum has come to this level...

I understand where other fans stood earlier..
and I know this will be ridiculed as well.....




very true 👏

i mean why dont hussain-tina fans accept that they were not up to the mark this time...they never had prblms when similar things were said abt TB, shweta-raja but now suddenly..everything has changed

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Posted: 19 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: caramelcj


after all it was just an opinion..accepting/denying it is fine.. after all it is ur POV.. ridiculing it is totally another level

to the author of this post: im sorry ur thread has come to this stage....I feel sorry the forum has come to this level...

I understand where other fans stood earlier..
and I know this will be ridiculed as well.....



It is one thing to express an opinion, ti is another to say only like minded are right and others are biased.

In any case, this whole contest is not just a dance contest, it is a celebrity contest, a reality show. HOpe we do not lose focus of that.
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Posted: 19 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: ManaliS

very true 👏

i mean why dont hussain-tina fans accept that they were not up to the mark this time...they never had prblms when similar things were said abt TB, shweta-raja but now suddenly..everything has changed



First of all, if someone here felt that Hu Ti were not good or they were not in sync, it is that members opinion and that is respected by forum members.

But stating that cannot mean that the whole forum has to agree to it, isnt it.

Surely you are entitled to hold your view as much as the other member is.

I dont think anything is changing when Hu Ti are being critisized. It is just that they are presenting their pov about why they felt they were in sync etc.


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Posted: 19 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: s.priya



First of all, if someone here felt that Hu Ti were not good or they were not in sync, it is that members opinion and that is respected by forum members.

But stating that cannot mean that the whole forum has to agree to it, isnt it.

Surely you are entitled to hold your view as much as the other member is.

I dont think anything is changing when Hu Ti are being critisized. It is just that they are presenting their pov about why they felt they were in sync etc.


i agree with u...😊 i'm not here to fight...in fact i hate to argue...😛 was just expressing my views...

but i'll still stick to my opinion that hussain-tina were not extra-ordinary in the semis to get 30/30

judges were earlier biased towards TB, shweta-raja and now hussain-tina 😕

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Posted: 19 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: s.priya



It is one thing to express an opinion, ti is another to say only like minded are right and others are biased.

In any case, this whole contest is not just a dance contest, it is a celebrity contest, a reality show. HOpe we do not lose focus of that.



so ridiculing posts is acceptable...

nobody was saying the performance was bad.. we said it was overhyped..

and they were mistakes.. people cannot have two mind as to whether the dance was in sync or not

but again I knew my post would be pulled up....

thank you...


tha author of this post had stated her POV..I couldnt find anything wrong with that.. I will say the same if it was my fav jodi too
Edited by caramelcj - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: caramelcj



so ridiculing posts is acceptable...

nobody was saying the performance was bad.. we said it was overhyped..

and they were mistakes.. people cannot have two mind as to whether the dance was in sync or not

but again I knew my post would be pulled up....

thank you...


tha author of this post had stated her POV..I couldnt find anything wrong with that.. I will say the same if it was my fav jodi too



Its just a question of two POVs, that is all.

And why do you get a feeling that "your post is being pulled up". If someone quotes you to reply, deos it mean your post is pulled up
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Posted: 19 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: ManaliS

i agree with u...😊 i'm not here to fight...in fact i hate to argue...😛 was just expressing my views...

but i'll still stick to my opinion that hussain-tina were not extra-ordinary in the semis to get 30/30

judges were earlier biased towards TB, shweta-raja and now hussain-tina 😕

You may even be right about the Judges bias. We can never rule it out completely. They were completely against Hiten Gauri earlier, then they turned the heat on Tanaz and Bakhtyaar.

Your views on the performances on the stage are your POV and hope you wont mind if someone does not agree with your analysis.


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Posted: 19 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: PawanHans

Hi I am a Huti fan and ..

so I thought I must participate in this debate and put my points forward.... according to me none of the performers except Manav n Shweta to a extent have given such a variety of performance...lets talk abt BT ..... BT were playin to their strength always ...ask Bhaktiyar to do a blind fold or a classical I bet he will never even attempt it ??? Infact many a times BT repeated their own steps .. His Khambakt ishaq had glimpses of Berang zindagi ....and even his solo was a power dance on a soft and cute song...infact in all their dances there were certain steps which were repeated in every dance .....and the regional round they did had a mix of bhangda , film and south indian dance so they got their lowest marks in that round ...n finally in thier last performace of Yaadein they used the leaf s falling in the end ( wasnt a slow song n the leaf falling effect a little similar to Bhaon ke darmiyaan of HUTI ???)...the main reason they couldnt get higher marks in semi s is bcoz they didnt do any thing different and the judges couldnt find anything new in their performance friends.....

I didnt want to pin point anything personal but now when we are comparing the 2 couples in the finals then let me say my view point ....the Salsa of Yash n Gouri had repetation and judges mentioned it ..that they tried to pay safe and did dance on their choreographers strength and not tried anything new ..... as the Salsa was done the 2nd time round . The solo of YASH 1 luv had the most simple dance HIP HOP steps and as the judges know he not the greatest of dancers they gave him the 30 ...tell me 1 thing if Husein , Manav or Bhaktiyar did 1 luv and gave a similar or better performance then yash would they get 30 ???? No never bcoz they are good dancers the judges want them to do the tougher dance and the judgement is made on the past performances and the persons ability to dance ..if you are good you have to do a difficult dance simple as that . ..............And YG have also tried to play safe in some rounds ,if you see the wedding round please see the orginal video 80 % steps were repeated still they got the same marks as HUTI which was a much better concept and a original dance .................... And their regional round was a filmi dance there was no authenticity in that dance ,infact the judges mentioned it clearly taht your region of the dance was Indian film Industry dance and still they scored 23 .....same as HUTI who did a Maharashtrian dance like a LAVNI and Judges mention that Husien was fantastic and took the performance to a different level............Also come to talk about their performance on the Dil Se song , Satrangi re ...did it deserve a 30 ???? in the same round Huti got a 30 for their BLIND FOLD And Manav / Shweta for a Classical dance ...YG didnt deserve such high marks in that round and every 1 will agree on this ....also Haila Haila was a bad performance really bad and we all know it ....and for Aaja Gufaaon mein did have limited dance and steps and it was again more of a concept based dance....my friends on this Topic who mentioned about being great observers of dances if you see the video once more in the start of the dance the 1st 10 seconds Yash was blank n confused and Gauri guided him and then he picked up the dance .....also their dance had very simple steps and the effect came with the costume, makeup and concept..please see the video again.....Tell me who has taken a risk like Husein - Tina in NB 2 till now ??? ..some one who says this needs to see all the episodes of NB 2 again .... from berang , to their solo , Bahon ke darmiyan and Bharat Humko were all difficult performances and big risks and very different ...never seen on Nach baliye ever ........still if they cant satisfy you people then I think no one else can .... Anyways we are all free to express our opinion but dont pretend and say that you are UNBIASED AND NEUTRAL and then start bashing a jodi u dont like ...😆

Not so fast huh. I have choreo'ed dances in the past 4 years and really liked this competetion. Came to know about this program and have started looking at these videos in the past couple of weeks only and have no clue who these actors are or what other places they appear. But really liked Huti and YG for their performace/attitude . Having said so let me state what you have stated here on the dances

First lets see about YG what you said -

As for the Dances, the dance of YG on Satragi re is one of the best in the competetion and did deserve a 30. YG's Regional dance was also very good. They were also well commented by the judges. Your comments about they playing safe are laughable as except for the one song where the steps looked repeated, this couple had a big variety. Their dances are probably the best. If you have a problem with the slow number of Y and fast numbers of TB then what do you like buddy? just want to dance in the concept or what? Your comments do not say much about the dances but probably about your liking towards certain dancers and your dislike wrt others. So Chill.

Also HuTI's Performance now

Their Blind performance was the best. Even in the second song Bahon Ke Darmian, though was very good, had repeated steps from TB's Romantic round. Please watch it if you have not. I have already watched these dances more than a dozens of times. In the semifinal round their performance, was less than perfect in both the numbers. As you are so bent on looking at the mistakes of the other dancers, why do not you begin talking about the mistakes in the dances of HT in this round. I am sure you also know there were several. But their charm of doing the dance in the previous rounds might have carried on with the judges. Kunal said, he would have given 11,12 or 13 marks for the blind one. Seems like the judges are compensating in these rounds. Unless some person is totally blind and biased, you cannot say that their performances deserved 30. This round was their weakest performance ever. They were still good and could have gone to the finals based on the performances, but the performances did not deserve a 30. Ofcourse everyone is allowed to have their own opinions, so...

For TB

They are probably the best dancers in the competetion if you consider the couples. They had some variety, but not as much as YG initially or HT now. They did the dance well in this round. The dances also deserved much more points than what they got. What I found weired was Saroj Ji saying last episode that this couple was abou to go under. Both the dances this time had a variety and used the props (like cage) also well. The judges from now on should be asked for what they are cutting the marks and how many marks for each mistake.

It might be because of the case of the reality show's reality or even the judge's own conception of the dancers, what they have formed in the past rounds. Expectation of the fair judgement from each judge for each round is high, but that might be impossible to achieve.

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