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Posted: 7 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Simi1711



Just to clarify, today's OLV from the hospital: The scene b/w Avni & Vidyut already showed Vidyut revealing the condition to her that he had kept in front of Neil 6 months back. :)

He says something like, Main toh tumhe batana Hi Bhool gaya! Kaha tha maine Neil Khanna ko ki mujhe meri Avni de de, par nahi! Isiliye toh Juhi k jhoothe murder case mein phasaya tha maine tumhe

That's when Avni goes all crazy in anger and hurt and begs for Neil's forgiveness and admonishes Vidyut verbally.


Hey!!! I didn't see the OLV! Do you have the link by any chance?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Would be interesting how Avni uses the skill she learnt in Jail to never leave a clue behind against VR n sling his doing to the public who are wanting him as an MLA

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Simi1711



Just to clarify, today's OLV from the hospital: The scene b/w Avni & Vidyut already showed Vidyut revealing the condition to her that he had kept in front of Neil 6 months back. :)

He says something like, Main toh tumhe batana Hi Bhool gaya! Kaha tha maine Neil Khanna ko ki mujhe meri Avni de de, par nahi! Isiliye toh Juhi k jhoothe murder case mein phasaya tha maine tumhe

That's when Avni goes all crazy in anger and hurt and begs for Neil's forgiveness and admonishes Vidyut verbally.


Shonali i missed watchin this olv too..Thanks Simi for the WU :)
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@neeraja91

Logic wise you are right, and the things u mentioned aren't the only ones, apart from all these things, I also found the reaction of the old man weird, I mean what are the chances of you helping a fugitive who is trying to steal your car and that too drive for her!!!! Let's suppose he empathized with her, he would still refuse as no one would want to land themselves in trouble by helping a fugitive! But anyways maybe some few exceptions exist in real life as well, I mean we have heard about few things in real life that have beaten even fiction!

Anyways I never expect logic from hindi shows especially in these dramatic sequences, how is this more illogical for example than Avni jumping out of fire during DVM's first arrest, the entire sequence then was illogical and the way they turned it into some comedy with everyone running behind DVM and then Diksha and Ketan sequences, everything was beyond silly then, the only good thing was AvNeil's last scene when Neil tried to calm her and prevent her from killing DVM! And people are blaming Ketki, I think we should be careful before pointing fingers at someone, I think then Ketki wasn't even part of the show. Not defending anyone, nor blaming anyone just saying we are not in the right place to really say who is responsible for what, we don't have the entire knowledge and that would make anything we say mere speculations.


What stood for me in the episode is the characterization and AvNeil's bonding which are superb honestly. Avni showed how much she loves him and what she really thinks of him, despite her not knowing the truth and being upset for what happened between them, she loves him and she respects him and she knows he is a good human being, and she admitted that people like him are needed and that she needs him too. It shows that the hurt, the anger are just a facade hiding a lot of love and respect for her husband. She is upset because she thought he didn't trust her, she might think he has his reasons for not doing it, but since she loves him, she has her expectations, when you love someone, you expect them to believe you, to trust you, to stand by you whether you are right or wrong, and when she thought it didn't happen, it hurt her a lot, but all her hurtful words to him about him not deserving her, of him being heartless are all a facade as I already predicted, I knew she would tell him many things but she would believe nothing of the hurtful things she would say, many said she would become indifferent and she would hate him etc I remember I said tell her Neil is dying or something and you will see what she will do and look what happened, actually we didn't even need that as she showed her love in many ways in the previous episodes, this is just the culmination to make people see her real emotions for him.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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For those who asked for the link:

https://instagram.com/p/Bdr1rowDnOz/

Listen to the last part carefully when Vidyut & Avni are sitting on that hospital bed.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Simi1711

For those who asked for the link:

https://instagram.com/p/Bdr1rowDnOz/

Listen to the last part carefully when Vidyut & Avni are sitting on that hospital bed.


Thanks Simi :)
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Posted: 7 years ago
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What stood for me in the episode is the characterization and AvNeil's bonding which are superb honestly. Avni showed how much she loves him and what she really thinks of him, despite her not knowing the truth and being upset for what happened between them, she loves him and she respects him and she knows he is a good human being, and she admitted that people like him are needed and that she needs him too. It shows that the hurt, the anger are just a facade hiding a lot of love and respect for her husband. She is upset because she thought he didn't trust her, she might think he has his reasons for not doing it, but since she loves him, she has her expectations, when you love someone, you expect them to believe you, to trust you, to stand by you whether you are right or wrong, and when she thought it didn't happen, it hurt her a lot, but all her hurtful words to him about him not deserving her, of him being heartless are all a facade as I already predicted, I knew she would tell him many things but she would believe nothing of the hurtful things she would say, many said she would become indifferent and she would hate him etc I remember I said tell her Neil is dying or something and you will see what she will do and look what happened, actually we didn't even need that as she showed her love in many ways in the previous episodes, this is just the culmination to make people see her real emotions for him.
Absolutely agree with this. We all know how much they love each other and to what extent they can go for each other. thats why we love the couple and i'm glad that avni is planning to take the fall for neil and claim shes neo so that hes not going to get suspended. Shes anyway in jail so she knows it cant get worse for her but she will make sure neil doesnt get fired. and when neil knows what shes done he'll get even more fired up to get her out! all that is wonderful.

I also know that there have been several illogical plots on the past as well and i know ketki is not the only person which is why i havent directly named her in my posts
Infact i did enquire if it was her who was there during those tracks

My point is the bigger question- ya the plots are illogical but how many more of these are we going to see, and how many times will it get recycled. Its worse when you get excited looking at the potential of a track being squandered away. i think it warrants discussion about how we can improve content on ITV given the problems in terms of the fact that its not a finite series and they have the issue of churning out daily episodes as opposed to lets say Netflix shows the other point is even with an OTT situation i think its the CVs/director who need to pay attention to little details which make the situation as realistic as possible even within the realm of all the drama. Some of the things I mentioned as suggestions would have made the episode more watchable for me personally today. I feel like the potential of good actors like aditi is being wasted. Despite all my complaints about the epsiode I still watched it for aditi. Shes really oozed so much conviction into the part and we are all shipping for Avneil all the way so I'm watching it to see them get back together. But I'm just hoping that these bigger questions with regard to improving the content even with the so called TRP constraints are discussed not only by us but also with actors and other members of the fraternity.

We all love adiza, we follow their interviews, we are curious about their lives. I would also like to know their views on the show, the content and what they feel about it- are they happy with the way things are, do they have any creative liberties at all,etc etc...i dont think these questions are asked.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I can't agree more "neeraja91", I used to discuss a lot with friends about the quality of content on ITV and if there can't be any improvement within the current conditions and even with the TRP system. I even stopped watching Indian tv for a while. I wondered why they can't go for the "seasons' formula or shoot entire shows beforehand with finite number of episodes. I could never understand the TRP system honestly, what works for it?, why good content doesn't work? or why doesn't it always work?!, I guess Sony Tv and even Star plus tried with some content oriented shows but they didn't fetch good numbers, honestly I can't say, I'm not even indian so that makes me even less knowledgeable about all these things.

And yes I'm also here because AvNeil's characterization and relationship have been the best I've seen on indian tv so far, at least when they separate it's not over silly reasons, and overall there is a certain consistency in their characters, the core is still the same and their bond is one of the best


I also agree on the fact that few details could make episodes better even when creative liberties are taken, these details might make us feel a little less worse about ourselves for watching some illogical things 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: .IamShonali.


+1 to that Juhi! Count me in that minority! I have no complaints with the way this track is designed of course except wanting to see the Khanna's. Everything else has made sense to me. And yes, editing was slightly off today but to be honest we can overlook it this time. Team is under a lot of pressure, with everyone being on holidays, delivering the episodes on time, shooting round the clock and shooting some future scenes before hand to adjust the absence! It does get haphazard!

I liked today's episode too and I especially loved Avni/Aditi in today's episode. The girl successfully broke out today. But not to avenge or revenge. She broke out to the save the love of her life! It was just so damn beautifully. She would have 1000 complaints from him. But when its comes to loving him or saving him, there is no looking back. You don't stop loving the people even if you are angry at them. Their life, their safety matters the most to you. And thats what Neil and Avni, both have been proving ever since they got together! Like Neil never needed any evidence from Avni when she told him the truth about Juhi to believe what she said, Avni needs no evidence from anyone to believe in Neil, especially when his life is at stake. Whatever the issues are, they can sort it out later. What matters is their life and them being alive, safe from the danger lurking around them 24/7. Some may have felt todays episode to be draggy but for me it was more like an episode where love overpowers all the rules!

And Aditi Rathore deserves a standing ovation. This girl started from where and has come a very long way! Cheers to this girls dedication! 👏 👏 👏





Couldn't agree more with both of you, I am in the minority with you two. So things were not the most logical or executed as well as fans would have liked, Shonali pointed out the pressure this team was under it was not only about leaves. You have to factor in the fact the cast were shooting many of their scenes at night due to the chaos happening, there were some shows which halted shooting completely but NK could not do that because they do not have much of an episode bank so it was extremely difficult on this cast and crew.

The way I see it things are progressing beautifully, Avni knows there is more to Neil's actions, Neil being Neo, Vidyut's intentions, she successfully escaped jail and from an upcoming OLV we know Neela found something that could prove her innocence. That is a lot considering in other shows we would have probably been stuck on repeat with Avni knowing nothing about Neil, the misunderstandings would have remained but here things could not be more different. Nothing is dragging, everything is unfolding the way it should. I couldn't be more proud of Avni as a character and Aditi as an actress, she has come into her own and really proven she is a force to be reckoned with. It is rare when you see female leads being depicted as strong women instead of helpless and weak just like Vidyut believed Avni would be upon hearing Neil would be killed.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Mandy/@neeraja91

I don't know if it's totally true or not but I heard that eventually Channel has been putting some pressure on the PH as the jail track didn't fetch the desired TRPs (though I feel it was good overall way way better than kitchen politics honestly it was something fresh) so they decided to add drama to make it appeal to TRP aunties, eventually (might be wrong) TRP aunties weren't impressed with the jail break plans Avni was doing in a proactive way so they added elements from mythology to dramatise things, otherwise with the secret passage Avni discovered we expected something different but seems things changed, I even read somewhere that channel asked for a new track or changes in the track something on these lines

I even heard that certain shocking aspects of the promos are decided by the channel, so I think we can't ignore that channel has that power and they interfere in CVs work!
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