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Posted: 7 years ago
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Great post Simi, I agree with you 100%. I adore Neela maa, after Neil and Avni she is my most favourite character. She has always been level headed and the voice of reason in this show, so for her to come out and say something like that is honestly laughable! And I would blame the writers and editors completely for the lack of logic and conviction with which Neil and Neela are behaving post leap.

My biggest complaint from the beginning of this track has been the lack of an appropriate reasoning to back Neil and Neela's plans'. And although I agree with many members here that things have been dramatized unnecessarily for the sake of elongating this track, I think it is completely fair for fans to question some of the loopholes and demand some logical explanation of what Neil and Neela have done in the past 6 months to ensure Avni's freedom.

And we are not asking for successful attempts' of collecting evidence against Vidyut or for Avni. We are asking for a mere recollections of them trying' to do something other than financially weakening Vidyut in order to prove Avni's innocence. There is a huge difference. Being a legal practitioner myself I am well versed with the concept of evidence being bought' and the legal system working in the favour of those with wealth and status in many instances.

The fact that criminal trails in real life run for years is also a no brainer. There are all sorts of issues relating to admissibility and court timings. So Neil's attempts at attacking Vidyut financially so as to ensure that he is not in a position to buy evidence and attack his image by exposing his drug trafficking to the general public are all reasonable and will possibly contribute towards his downfall. But as many people have pointed out already, it's the single-minded approach which I find indigestible.

I found last night's episode relatively better in many ways. I actually felt and could relate to Neil's pain and guilt over doing what he felt was necessary to protect his love for the first time after this leap took place. The guy is seriously hurting and he's haunted by the guilt of not being able to protect Avni and be with her when she needed him the most. But that was soon replaced by the W*F' moment when Neela maa, rather optimistically tells Neil that through this drug trafficking exposure they will free Avni and then they can both live happily ever after.

Like I love this woman and I want to cut her some slack, maybe she said all this to make a rather inconsolable and guilt ridden Neil feel better. But it almost felt like normalising' Avni's conviction. Kai like okay abhi she is in Jail, soon she will be out and we can all just forget this ever happened, move on and live happily ever after. When in reality, both Neil and Neela need to realise that there is nothing normal' about this situation. And maybe they do realise this but the viewers would never know unless it is explicitly shown right?

They need to see and acknowledge the darkness, the hurt and the reopening of wounds which has come about in Avni's life as a result of her unfair conviction. Along with living with criminals, Avni has had to live with the burden of a broken relationship, of not being trusted and betrayed by the man whom she loved and valued the most. Think about the bloody psychological impacts for God's sake. The girl is a living rock, the inmates see it but how is it missed by her own loved ones?

I believe unlike Neil, Neela has had some contact with Avni in the past six months (I would hope so). Maybe Neil, although deep down anticipating the hurt and anger which Avni must be feeling, is underestimating the overall impact. That's fair enough, he'll be in for a surprise when he visits that jail next week. But Neela ka kya? How has she missed what jail has transformed Avni into?

And I hate sounding petty or whatever and as much as I find Sayantani stunning, the makeover couldn't have come at a more inappropriate time. The styled hair and statement jewels and saree looked so out of place when Neela maa went to see her daughter who has been rotting in Jail and is a prisoner of her own thoughts for the past 6 months!

Just to end on a not so grumpy' note, the last few episodes have seemingly been executed with the old Nk' pace, which is always welcome. Neil's brain is functioning relatively better now that wifey is involved, again a welcome change. And I'm hopeful our patience will be rewarded and this track will finally head towards a more gripping twist in the tale.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweta2005

First week Cv showed how Avni was in 6 months , hr lfeelings, planning, hope this week they Neel' s planning,,what all he did


I hope so because after leap I could not connect with even single scene of Neil and neela. That's may be due to editing that dcp part or whatever. Zain is working very hard but editors are doing worst job.
It's high time they give backstory of Neil and neela.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#43
Really great post simi di.I agree with everyone's pov. Actually the thing is there were some proofs which could prove Avni innocent but cvs to prolong this track have overlooked them. Police can have an agreement and hand it over to CBI if it's so tough for them to decode anything in such an easy case. It's not like Aarushi's murder case that there is no proof. Sorry to go off the topic but it was very illogical yesterday the way they are thinking that vidyut will accept his crime. Height of stupidity. Just to prolong this separation track cvs can't give such illogical explanation to things and even they are not showing Neil's part to the story. How will anyone remain connected with this character. And if they want everyone to be patient then I don't know what are they thinking of doing in future. How all this is going to prove avni's innocence has a very big question mark from my side.
Edited by -SaskatoonDan- - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: -Ammie-

Great post Simi, I agree with you 100%. I adore Neela maa, after Neil and Avni she is my most favourite character. She has always been level headed and the voice of reason in this show, so for her to come out and say something like that is honestly laughable! And I would blame the writers and editors completely for the lack of logic and conviction with which Neil and Neela are behaving post leap.

My biggest complaint from the beginning of this track has been the lack of an appropriate reasoning to back Neil and Neela's plans'. And although I agree with many members here that things have been dramatized unnecessarily for the sake of elongating this track, I think it is completely fair for fans to question some of the loopholes and demand some logical explanation of what Neil and Neela have done in the past 6 months to ensure Avni's freedom.

And we are not asking for successful attempts' of collecting evidence against Vidyut or for Avni. We are asking for a mere recollections of them trying' to do something other than financially weakening Vidyut in order to prove Avni's innocence. There is a huge difference. Being a legal practitioner myself I am well versed with the concept of evidence being bought' and the legal system working in the favour of those with wealth and status in many instances.

The fact that criminal trails in real life run for years is also a no brainer. There are all sorts of issues relating to admissibility and court timings. So Neil's attempts at attacking Vidyut financially so as to ensure that he is not in a position to buy evidence and attack his image by exposing his drug trafficking to the general public are all reasonable and will possibly contribute towards his downfall. But as many people have pointed out already, it's the single-minded approach which I find indigestible.

I found last night's episode relatively better in many ways. I actually felt and could relate to Neil's pain and guilt over doing what he felt was necessary to protect his love for the first time after this leap took place. The guy is seriously hurting and he's haunted by the guilt of not being able to protect Avni and be with her when she needed him the most. But that was soon replaced by the W*F' moment when Neela maa, rather optimistically tells Neil that through this drug trafficking exposure they will free Avni and then they can both live happily ever after.

Like I love this woman and I want to cut her some slack, maybe she said all this to make a rather inconsolable and guilt ridden Neil feel better. But it almost felt like normalising' Avni's conviction. Kai like okay abhi she is in Jail, soon she will be out and we can all just forget this ever happened, move on and live happily ever after. When in reality, both Neil and Neela need to realise that there is nothing normal' about this situation. And maybe they do realise this but the viewers would never know unless it is explicitly shown right?

They need to see and acknowledge the darkness, the hurt and the reopening of wounds which has come about in Avni's life as a result of her unfair conviction. Along with living with criminals, Avni has had to live with the burden of a broken relationship, of not being trusted and betrayed by the man whom she loved and valued the most. Think about the bloody psychological impacts for God's sake. The girl is a living rock, the inmates see it but how is it missed by her own loved ones?

I believe unlike Neil, Neela has had some contact with Avni in the past six months (I would hope so). Maybe Neil, although deep down anticipating the hurt and anger which Avni must be feeling, is underestimating the overall impact. That's fair enough, he'll be in for a surprise when he visits that jail next week. But Neela ka kya? How has she missed what jail has transformed Avni into?

And I hate sounding petty or whatever and as much as I find Sayantani stunning, the makeover couldn't have come at a more inappropriate time. The styled hair and statement jewels and saree looked so out of place when Neela maa went to see her daughter who has been rotting in Jail and is a prisoner of her own thoughts for the past 6 months!

Just to end on a not so grumpy' note, the last few episodes have seemingly been executed with the old Nk' pace, which is always welcome. Neil's brain is functioning relatively better now that wifey is involved, again a welcome change. And I'm hopeful our patience will be rewarded and this track will finally head towards a more gripping twist in the tale.


Ammie take a bow.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: vijaya138


I hope so because after leap I could not connect with even single scene of Neil and neela. That's may be due to editing that dcp part or whatever. Zain is working very hard but editors are doing worst job.
It's high time they give backstory of Neil and neela.


Exactly had so much expectations for the tile breaking scenes ,but due to editing, there was no impact of it
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: -SaskatoonDan-

I agree with everyone's pov. Actually the thing is there were some proofs which could prove Avni innocent but cvs to prolong this track have overlooked them. Police can have an agreement and hand it over to CBI if it's so tough for them to decode anything in such an easy case. It's not like Aarushi's murder case that there is no proof. Sorry to go off the topic but it was very illogical yesterday the way they are thinking that vidyut will accept his crime. Height of stupidity. Just to prolon this separation track cvs can't give such illogical explanation to things and even they are not showing Neil's part to the story. How will anyone remain connected with this character. And if they want everyone to be patient then I don't know what are they thinking of doing in future. How all this is going to prove avni's innocence has a very big question mark from my side.


My answer is unless.avni takes matter into her hands matter can't be solved. I am damn sure that what Neil and neela did till now will go in drain. They can't destroy vidhyut. Especially when I see them working with these brains.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Naj well said. Though I won't agree in disconnect with scene when DD informed him about Avni. Neil had too much on plate especially on how to convince Vidyut that Neo and Neil are separate entities. When DD informed him his ever practical selfwanted details on how she got injured and to the extent she was. He was trying to get information. As it started sinking in yo his brain she is injured you could see his anxiousness of wanting to see Avni at that time. I could connect with it because I am like that too. When a person I love distant or far is injured I will think of options wanting to know things with composure. I don't get anxious or emotional. Only when everything is done that needs to be done I become emotional.
See his transition his tadap became obvious after he could fail Vidyut and knowing that Avni is fine. For him his mind and heart gave away. I am also like that I am so mechanical that people seeing me can't make out and may think I am cold but I may be emotional from inside. But after everything is fine the things take a toll on me and I become emotional and anxious. Though am emotional person by nature.
I am just giving another point of view.
As to Neil becoming Neo I understand that he has to weaken Vidyut illegal activities and money due yo which he is able to buy system. My problem is with like Naj on simplistic dialouges that this will make him confess to murder.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: vijaya138


My answer is unless.avni takes matter into her hands matter can't be solved. I am damn sure that what Neil and neela did till now will go in drain. They can't destroy vidhyut. Especially when I see them working with these brains.


So true . I have also started to feel that unless avni gets involved here they are going to reach nowhere. Specially when both Neil and Neela are thinking like stupids. How come Neil's brain only works when it's avni's case. Why can't he think like a real officer. They really need CBI's help because there brains have gone down the drain and in no sense they are showing any common sense. Utter nonsense.
And avni is really mentally harassed. That scene they showed simi di is right it's not normal for anyone to behave that way. She has suffered extreme damage. Neil should have really asked about all this to Monica. But he is being an emotional baby here.
Edited by -SaskatoonDan- - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: -Ammie-


Great post
Simi, I agree with you 100%. I adore Neela maa, after Neil and Avni she is my
most favourite character. She has always been level headed and the voice of
reason in this show, so for her to come out and say something like that is
honestly laughable! And I would blame the writers and editors completely for
the lack of logic and conviction with which Neil and Neela are behaving post
leap.


</p>

My biggest
complaint from the beginning of this track has been the lack of an appropriate
reasoning to back Neil and Neela's plans'. And although I agree with many
members here that things have been dramatized unnecessarily for the sake of elongating
this track, I think it is completely fair for fans to question some of the
loopholes and demand some logical explanation of what Neil and Neela have done
in the past 6 months to ensure Avni's freedom.



And we are
not asking for successful attempts' of collecting evidence against Vidyut or
for Avni. We are asking for a mere
recollections of them trying' to do something other than financially weakening
Vidyut in order to prove Avni's innocence. There is a huge difference. Being a
legal practitioner myself I am well versed with the concept of evidence being bought'
and the legal system working in the favour of those with wealth and status in
many instances.



The fact
that criminal trails in real life run for years is also a no brainer. There are
all sorts of issues relating to admissibility and court timings. So Neil's
attempts at attacking Vidyut financially so as to ensure that he is not in a position
to buy evidence and attack his image by exposing his drug trafficking to the
general public are all reasonable and will possibly contribute towards his
downfall. But as many people have pointed out already, it's the single-minded
approach which I find indigestible.



I found
last night's episode relatively better in many ways. I actually felt and could
relate to Neil's pain and guilt over doing what he felt was necessary to
protect his love for the first time after this leap took place. The guy is
seriously hurting and he's haunted by the guilt of not being able to protect
Avni and be with her when she needed him the most. But that was soon replaced
by the W*F' moment when Neela maa, rather optimistically tells Neil that
through this drug trafficking exposure they will free Avni and then they can
both live happily ever after.



Like I love
this woman and I want to cut her some slack, maybe she said all this to make a
rather inconsolable and guilt ridden Neil feel better. But it almost felt like normalising'
Avni's conviction. Kai like okay abhi she is in Jail, soon she will be out and
we can all just forget this ever happened, move on and live happily ever after.
When in reality, both Neil and Neela need to realise that there is nothing normal'
about this situation. And maybe they do realise this but the viewers would
never know unless it is explicitly shown right?



They need
to see and acknowledge the darkness, the hurt and the reopening of wounds which
has come about in Avni's life as a result of her unfair conviction. Along with
living with criminals, Avni has had to live with the burden of a broken
relationship, of not being trusted and betrayed by the man whom she loved and
valued the most. Think about the bloody psychological impacts for God's sake. The
girl is a living rock, the inmates see it but how is it missed by her own loved
ones?



I believe
unlike Neil, Neela has had some contact with Avni in the past six months (I would
hope so). Maybe Neil, although deep down anticipating the hurt and anger which
Avni must be feeling, is underestimating the overall impact. That's fair
enough, he'll be in for a surprise when he visits that jail next week. But Neela
ka kya? How has she missed what jail has transformed Avni into?



And I hate sounding
petty or whatever and as much as I find Sayantani stunning, the makeover couldn't
have come at a more inappropriate time. The styled hair and statement jewels
and saree looked so out of place when Neela maa went to see her daughter who
has been rotting in Jail and is a prisoner of her own thoughts for the past 6
months!



<p>Just to end
on a not so grumpy' note, the last few episodes have seemingly been executed
with the old Nk' pace, which is always welcome. Neil's brain is functioning
relatively better now that wifey is involved, again a welcome change. And I'm
hopeful our patience will be rewarded and this track will finally head towards
a more gripping twist in the tale.



Kudos, Ammie 👏
I couldn't have penned it any better.. whatever you said is just so true!
I don't need to add anything further since you have covered it all completely.
And yes, I completely agree with you on neela's makeover part too.
It's such an off-timing. And honestly I liked her previous look better. Post leap, I only liked her black attire when she did that dance, rest of the time, her dresses, her hair styling, it is all looking so out of place especially when you know your daughter is rotting in jail.
And by the looks of it, she has suddenly become more of Neil's Maa than avni's Maa.. I hope CVs fix this soon!
Edited by Simi1711 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: -SaskatoonDan-


So true . I have also started to feel that unless avni gets involved here they are going to reach nowhere. Specially when both Neil and Neela are thinking like stupids. How come Neil's brain only works when it's avni's case. Why can't he think like a real officer. They really need CBI's help because there brains have gone down the drain and in no sense they are showing any common sense. Utter nonsense.
And avni is really mentally harassed. That scene they showed simi di is right it's not normal for anyone to behave that way. She has suffered extreme damage. Neil should have really asked about all this to Monica. But he is being an emotional baby here.

Iam literally scared for avni now. i

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