Neil & Neela- Care to Think About Avni's POV, Please?

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yes, I loved today's episode.
But I cannot just erase the laughing stock that Neela made of herself when she said those words, that with Vidyut's drug deals getting unveiled in front of the legal system, he would make confession about Juhi's murder and then Avni would come back to Neil's Life and they would live happily ever after.

Woman, is it that simple, eh?

As they say, you don't know it till you go through it.
Living lavishly despite the emotional baggage, she or anyone else for that matter would never know what it is like to spend a life behind bars that too when you know you are not guilty!

I expected better from Neela who till date has always been perfection to the hilt when it comes to being Avni's mother.

So Neil and Neela both haven't seen Avni in these 6 months but they have kept tabs on her.
In that case, shouldn't they know what Avni has become and why?

In the upcoming dream sequence of Neil too, he says to Avni that we start our happily ever after right when I get you out of this jail.

Hello, mate?

Care to ask what is AVNI's POV on this?

You guys literally broke her belief, her faith, her trust.. made her feel like she is a convict despite being innocent, let her be humiliated publicly, and you Neil, wiped off her sindoor, took off her mangalsutra.. and both of you still live everyday with the rather seeming fact that Oh, she will come running into my arms after Vidyut gets arrested and we will make babies together!

Honestly, I am being extremely patient with this track , despite so many things just not clicking in, one for instance would be the lack of Neil's side of the story in the past 6 months. I also chose to ignore the rather indifferent expression he had on his face yesterday when DD informed him of someone hurting Avni in jail.. someone had also made a post about it..

But it has been 5 episodes into the leap, and despite worshipping the characters Of Neil and Neela as much as I dot on Avni, I am not able to build a connection here with them and the reason is , somehow I feel Neil and Neela are making this too much about just them.

Every time Neil says he is guilty of sending her to Jail, Neela avers it was their decision together'

Yes, Woman! So what?
Firstly, it was a decision out of no choice and now six months later, when you do have a choice you still let that girl live in darkness, so much that she has become this dark personality who is getting more complicated by the day.

I don't know what you all feel about this, but Avni's escape plans that include time and again physically hurting herself, is an indication of a big time psychological crisis, and the more she lies oblivious to the truth, the more she would be pulled in the pit.

And now with Neil knowing Avni's escape mission, I am sure the promo would ply out where he would put an end to her efforts and this is only going to further rile her up.

Do Neil and Neela even realise the mental and physical damage they are causing Avni?

Please remember this is no way a hate post or character bashing post. It is just about the way of thinking of life where in reality too, we may think we are doing something really good for someone, but truth is, unknowingly we are just ruining them beyond repair.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I found one single explanation to all this is CVs wanting to prolong separation and keep the misunderstanding intact to create drama etc otherwise hiding the truth from her till now doesn't make sense to me, yes before it was undertandable, she was planning to run away and all evidence against her, and Vidyut had evil eyes on her so Neil thought that jail would be the place where he could keep her away from Vidyut and Vidyut away from her which is true, but once she was under supervision in jail, he should have told her, as he might have known by now, she is trying to escape anyways, he can use the same means to prevent her from escaping and protect her from Vidyut, but tell her the truth at least!

And yes I agree, I still don't understand how attacking Vidyut's business or even exposing his illegal activities would make him confess another crime which is murder, pagal hai kya woh!

Yes I understand them wanting to weaken him, so that he doesn't get the money and the power that can help him in buying the system, I also understand that if they expose some of his illegal activities that might make him lose credibility, it would be easier to think he can commit murder as well but how is it going to make him confess or prove he murdered Juhi is beyond my understanding. Unless he is pushed to madness he won't confess, I mean yes one might think out of frustration someday he might come and blurt out the truth in front of Neil but that's a possibility only nothing sure, it's not something efficient one can rely on to bring good and fast results, and if Neil really wants that to happen, then he should do more than attacking Vidyut's activities, he should play mind games with him, dig out his past, extract truth from him some way, recreate events, trap him I don't know I'm not a CV but while I like Neo avatar and the idea of stripping Vidyut off his money and power I find the explanation of that being the only way to make Vidyut confess contrived and not convincing!
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Originally posted by: arshisfan

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">I found one single explanation to all this is CVs wanting to prolong separation and keep the misunderstanding intact to create drama etc otherwise hiding the truth from her till now doesn't make sense to me, yes before it was undertandable, she was planning to run away and all evidence against her, and Vidyut had evil eyes on her so Neil thought that jail would be the place where he could keep her away from Vidyut and Vidyut away from her which is true, but once she was under supervision in jail, he should have told her, as he might have known by now, she is trying to escape anyways, he can use the same means to prevent her from escaping and protect her from Vidyut, but tell her the truth at least!

And yes I agree, I still don't understand how attacking Vidyut's business or even exposing his illegal activities would make him confess another crime which is murder, pagal hai kya woh!

Yes I understand them wanting to weaken him, so that he doesn't get the money and the power that can help him in buying the system, I also understand that if they expose some of his illegal activities that might make him lose credibility, it would be easier to think he can commit murder as well but how is it going to make him confess or prove he murdered Juhi is beyond my understanding. Unless he is pushed to madness he won't confess, I mean yes one might think out of frustration someday he might come and blurt out the truth in front of Neil but that's a possibility only nothing sure, it's not something efficient one can rely on to bring good and fast results, and if Neil really wants that to happen, then he should do more than attacking Vidyut's activities, he should play mind games with him, dig out his past, extract truth from him some way, recreate events, trap him I don't know I'm not a CV but while I like Neo avatar and the idea of stripping Vidyut off his money and power I find the explanation of that being the only way to make Vidyut confess contrived and not convincing!
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Exactly!

Also, the way I see it, I don't understand why Neil is working with only one angle in mind.

His focus is on making Vidyut confess the crime.
Why can't he focus on proving Avni as not the murderer?

There's no hullabaloo over the second bullet, Mishti I guess is presumed dead by the police.. what I don't get it is, instead of targeting just his illegal business why can't Neil target Vidyut's fake alibis who would have lied that during the murder he was somewhere else?

Law ke against jake Neo ban hi gaye ho toh, why not capture his men and give them third degree torture so that they confess something that can be more valuable for Avni's case than destroy his trucks full of drugs which is not even related to juhi's murder?

And amid all this, my biggest query is.. If This confession doesn't come from Vidyut for the next FIVE years, does he expect Avni to rot in jail for THAT long and have Neela merrily say, 5 saal baad Avni rihaa hogi toh tumhare paas Hi toh aayegi.. happily ever after resume karne?! 😕
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Posted: 7 years ago
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And yes I also liked the episode, Avni helping Neil indirectly, I also wondered about what many said, I was like will she keep hurting herself, I know she makes sure it's nothing serious but still it's disturbing!

I also don't know why Neela never visited her, ok Neil didn't for whatever reason, but she needed Neela ma, I know Avni doesn't hold it against her because Neela has done a lot for her without even needing to, as she is not her mother but still I don't know why Neela also never visited her!

I liked Neil's concern for Avni, feeling the need to see her, to tend to her wounds, to send her medecines...

I'm glad he went to the spot to investigate the place and find out who helped them, and yes it's always nice to see the hero using his brain and connecting the dots, he got to know Avni tried to escape, th timing, the prisoner piece of cloth and the fact that Neela said she was wet, and obviously his intuition about his wife and all what she can do


I know CVs want the track to play for long, hence they are not showing results in Neil's plan, or enough convincing plans, he has always been the one to take the brunt anyways no matter what happens in all the tracks post DVM's arrest, we know they want at the same time to show Neil is trying but not make him successful on the spot because track should run for a while, it happened during Ali-Avni's fiasco they didn't make him say he trusts her on the spot because they had to play all the drama etc and then at the end show that plan to prove her innocence (I have my reservations with regards to the plan though I know it had an impact), so despite Neil ending up proving the point, his ways and timing are always questioned

And we can also notice that despite them being equally responsible for some situation, Neil ends up being questioned more because Avni suffers a lot, I guess this is how CVs like to do it

I just hope they try to make things convincing, I know they want to prolong the track but give the guy solid reasons for his delay, people will be happy if they see he tried logical things but they failed but don't give contrived explanations.


Edited by arshisfan - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Bang on post Simi- I do agree with you that both Neela and Neil have to think about the trauma Avni went through, more emotional than physical. She was weakened by the fact that Neil does not trust her, he thinks she was capable of murder. Poor girl was trying so hard to get one thing from him that he believes in her innocence. These 2 kept her in the dark for 6 months and now they are expecting that everything will be baam alright as before. She is trying to run away and Neil will obviously try to subdue her to protect her. But he will be increasing her trauma further and her thinking that he only treats her as a convict.
Currently Avni does not know Neela was involved in this decision, but I shudder to think will she be forgiving when she knows of her mother's involvement. Do they both think it is easy after being branded as a criminal to reintegrate back into society and live a normal life. Prison leaves scars and it shakes up the person's well being.
Yes they are not thinking from Avni's POV at all.

Also I understand Neil's plan to weaken Vidyut, but are they so naive that one report that it was drugs will make him confess. He can easily change and put the blame back on Neil that Neil did this for revenge. Which simple world they are living in. I hope they come up with the better plan to prove the innocence.Though I justified his reason for doing what he did when he arrested Avni, but continuing that facade for 6 months don't know. Apparently Neela Maa also did not visit her for months, and which does not make logical sense to me.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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If they had thought about that then they wouldn't have done this on first place.
Neil misjudging the situation I can still understand but how can Neela??? She was with Avni during the Dayawanti fiasco. She has seen herself how it has affected Avni when she was falsely accised of her mother's death and send to jail. When Ashish didn't trusted her how it has affected her. How can she think now it will be any different???
And yes I understand that Neil might not have any clue on Avni's innocence and Vidyut might have covered all his tracks that he can't find anything.
But only destroying Vidyut's business won't work. This way he will be able weaken Vidyut so that he don't manipulate the law but won't be able to make Vidyut confess. He needs solid proof to free Avni. They need to show him having another plan. Cause this way it may take years for Vidyut to confess. Will he keep Avni in jail that long????
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Originally posted by: Simi1711



Exactly!

Also, the way I see it, I don't understand why Neil is working with only one angle in mind.

His focus is on making Vidyut confess the crime.
Why can't he focus on proving Avni as not the murderer?

There's no hullabaloo over the second bullet, Mishti I guess is presumed dead by the police.. what I don't get it is, instead of targeting just his illegal business why can't Neil target Vidyut's fake alibis who would have lied that during the murder he was somewhere else?

Law ke against jake Neo ban hi gaye ho toh, why not capture his men and give them third degree torture so that they confess something that can be more valuable for Avni's case than destroy his trucks full of drugs which is not even related to juhi's murder?

And amid all this, my biggest query is.. If This confession doesn't come from Vidyut for the next FIVE years, does he expect Avni to rot in jail for THAT long and have Neela merrily say, 5 saal baad Avni rihaa hogi toh tumhare paas Hi toh aayegi.. happily ever after resume karne?! 😕



Chalo man lete hai, the second gun and bullet weren't found, let's suppose the bullet in Juhi's body crossed the skull and came out and wasn't found either so they couldn't match the bullet to the gun, let's say the only witnesses of the distance were Neela and Neil and they are her family so in front of law they wouldn't have been able to convince at which distance Avni was standing, so then even if the nature of wounds was analyzed, no proofs of the distance. Vidyut's car wasn't there when he ran away, another one was there, so we can suppose some of his men took the first car which wasn't working an placed the other one which Vidyut used to go away from the spot, footprints were wiped due to rain or wind LOL, Ok let's suppose no trace of evidence at all, but still other methods should be used against Vidyut, as u said attacking one single angle isn't enough and it would make the process slow while there is an urge to get Avni out of jail, if she was on bail and they were gathering evidence, it would be understandable but she is in jail and she doesn't know Neil trusts her!
Edited by arshisfan - 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshisfan



<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Chalo man lete hai, the second gun and bullet weren't found, let's suppose the bullet in Juhi's crossed the skull and came out and wasn't found either so they couldn't match the bullet to the gun, let's say the only witnesses of the distance were Neela and Neil and they are her family so in front of law they wouldn't have been able to convince at which distance Avni was standing, so then even if the nature of wounds was analyzed, no proofs of the distance. Vidyut's car wasn't there when he run away, another one was there, so we can suppose some of his men took the first car which wasn't working an placed the other one which Vidyut used to go away from the spot, footprints were wiped due to rain or wind LOL, Ok let's suppose no trace of evidence at all, but still other methods should be used against Vidyut, as u said attacking one single angle isn't enough and it would make the process slow while there is an urge to get Avni out of jail, if she was on bail and they were gathering evidence, it would be understandable but she is in jail and she doesn't know Neil trusts her!</font>



Yes.
And sum all of this up with the fact that this would be such a Deja Vu for Avni, wherein her own father had once sent her to jail, not trusting her and what kind of damage it had heralded on her, it is a pity that neela too is weighing things so one-dimensionally here, whereas she is the one who should be telling Neil, I think ab zyada ho gaya hai bahot.. let's make amends before it is too late.

More than Neil I guess I am disappointed with neela here.
And yes, adding the fact that even she didn't visit Avni for 6 months.
How are these two even thinking?

I get it that the CVs want to prolong this, but the lack of logic and reasoning is slowly testing my patience.
Belittling logic is every ITV show's thing but NK was always different and it is upsetting that I can't say that about this show anymore.

I would have rather found it okay that it was Avni who refused to meet any family member and shunned herself from the outside world , since her current personality actually makes that far more believable than whatever gibberish Neela and Neil are up to, including the fact that they both didn't visit Avni for 6 months!


Edited by Simi1711 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Neil and neela won't do it until complete damage is done.😆.
But for the first time their is lack of communication between leads.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: vijaya138

Neil and neela won't do it until complete damage is done.😆.

But for the first time their is lack of communication between leads.



Yeah, looks like it.

And like I think Supriya or Naaj mentioned here, I am actually kinda sceptical about Avni coming to know of Neela's involvement in this arrest plan of Neil's .. I have a feeling she won't be treating this as another Forgive and Forget' instance.
She is deeply wounded at this phase of life and the two souls she believed the most have rendered her to this place.

If I were her, I wasn't going to take it easy either.
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