Neil & Neela- Care to Think About Avni's POV, Please? - Page 4

Hands down agreed...even i am not able to connect with Neil's longingness for Avni which i see occasionally and Neela Maa's character being ruined. She is more concerned about Neil than Avni...she did not go to meet Avni in last 6 months is a SHOCKER...in dono se sabse ache ALI hai...he has been in touch and helping Avni...Khanna family toh hibernation pe chill gay...5 episodes already but...

Originally posted by: arshisfan

Guys while I know what Neil did is wrong, I don't want it to be another I won't forgive you thing. Let me explain, hiding the truth from Avni for so long is wrong, once the purpose of her being safe was fulfilled she should have been told the truth instead of letting her think that the man she loves mistrusts her, but in this hurt and pain I don't want Avni to regress and CVs to make it another Neil pacifying Avni mission, I'll tell u why! I need Avni to understand her contribution to the situation, where she went wrong as well, what Neil did here was after the entire situation was created, I also want her to understand the importance of not letting ur past control you or make u ignore other glarring things, yes given her past, her insecurities and hurt are understandable, she has preconceived ideas that she doesn't deserve happiness, that no one really remains in her life, so when that button is pressed a little bit harder she gives up and starts believing it's the truth and that real love doesn't exist, but if she is proved wrong despite Neil's wrong ways I want her to also question why she couldn't see behind his facade, why she couldn't read his eyes and just saw doubt in them, actually she saw in his eyes her own inner fears and not the truth of his soul. I want Avni to be a better version of herself from this experience, if she should keep distance from Neil, it should be because she wants to come out of her trauma, to fight her own demons that prevent her from trusting fully, to have restrospection and introspection. Neil has always forgiven her easily, even when she married him dokhe se, he used to feel angry because she breaks his promises but he used to understand her, honestly any man would feel hurt when his lady breaks his promises but Neil has accepted this woman the way she is warna I would totally understand if he felt hurt after that scene where he said " ek bar ek bar meri bhare mein soch lena" and I don't want people to compare these practical promises to the promise of Neil of giving her a fairytale or making her happy because we know that it's not in our hands, it's very abstract, destiny tests u, u just can try to make the person happy but the real happiness of someone depends only on them it comes from inside, you will be happy the day u decide to be happy, but if you let your past, fears, insecurities and many mental hurdles take over u will never be happy no matter how others try to make u happy.

I want it to be a learning experience for both, Neil's main motto was honesty and transparency if he broke it, it's in part due to Avni's impulsiveness and breaking promises habit ( the other part is CVs wanting a real separation coz despite everything Neil has always been honest with Avni even after her doing impulsive things), how can he be sure if he told her on the spot she won't go behind Vidyut after promising she won't, but yes I totally disagree with him on keeping her in the dark after the arrest.

Guys I genuinely think that, it's not even a pro Neil vision, it's mainly for Avni, she should understand that not everytime her past will be repeated with the same outcome, if she adopts a different approach in her way of dealing with things even the outcome can be different, as I said I know it's easier said than done.

In a relationship trust is very important, no matter what, u can't assure me u won't do something, and then go behind my back and do it because of something from the past, not only once, many times, and u can't always take things at face values without considering other aspects.

For me the following dialogues were important to be analyzed by Avni:

Neil : ""Avni bohot dard diya hai maine tumhe, hum ek simple married life jee sakte thi, ek happy married life, lekin mere ateet ki aane se, Juhi ki aane se hamari life ulaj thi chale gayi, tumne Mishti phir bhi pyaar diya, Juhi ko support diya, uski madad ki, iss mein tumhari koi ghalti nahi, ghalti hai to sirf meri"

Neil : "Avni tumhe sabse zada pyar main hi karta hoon, sabse zada dokh main hi deta hoon. Ek baat yaad rakna Avni, chahe kuch bhi hojaye, duniya tumhari bhare mein kuch bhi soche ya tum meri bhare mein kuch bhi socho lekin phir bhi main hamesha sirf tumhe aur tumhe hi pyaar karonga"


I guess the six months without Neil contacting her not even once might have made her think he really meant it, though I feel her heart and even mind would still think that there is something that doesn't add up.


Anyways my point is I don't want them to get in another phase without understanding what went wrong in the previous one, both of them!

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I agree with the post above.

Absolutely spot on post simi just the way Iam thinking about this track it's falling flat not working for me too Many loopholes too many confusion which I don't think will ever be cleared

I understand the situation per leap was bcoz both were at fault they both did there mistakes and why Neil had to send here to jail but My concerns are about post leap situation where these two are emotionally disconnected from avni, even there emotional scenes have no impact on me when I think about avnis current state.

Tbh I think there is no back story ,everyone wants to know Neil's back story what he did in last 6 months but as per all the episodes it's plain and simple they tried only one way attack Vidyut's business as per them this is the only way the can prove avnis innocence

Everyone says nene kept tab of Avni while she is in jail I beg to differ I don't think they have any idea what she went through they have no clue about her activities reasons are simple the way they expecting avni to come back to Neil and start a new life , they are not aware about avni-ali meeting , avni panning a escape.

If they kept a close watch on avni I am sure they would have known all this.

They just sent her to jail expecting Avni is safe there let's forget about her and concentrate on Vidyut with a stupid plan which doesn't seems to effecting him much.
I am board line irritated with the way Neela is pacifying Neil always not even once she thought about avni's condition in jail

Yes simi. Even in one week episodes I can connect only with avni. Both Neil neela scenes seemed to a big blooper for me.

Neil isn't naive not in this track and I understand the reason behind becoming Neo but maybe others too need it though it can be guessed, we have Vidyut who destroyed all evidence or left no evidence behind and who is getting more money and power so it was logical for Neil to do that woh bhi as a vigilante, Neo in disguise. Last time time Neil was cornered and Vidyut tarnished his reputation infront of media, Neil won't do the same mistake again now Neil has learnt his lessons.


He will strip Vidyut off his power and money first, then he will attack him and at that time, Vidyut won't be able to corrupt the system



So I don't agree "darsh333" that Neo's plans aint good in anyway! weakening ur enemy is one of the best strategies to bring him down


But I wanted to see other plans where Neil corners Vidyut from other angles as I don't see how destroying his business and exposing his illegal activities alone will make Vidyut confess about Juhi's murder!!!



Let's say I have more a problem with the dialogues :

If Neil said that he is doing it to destroy Vidyut's business and make him completely weak and unable of corrupting the system by the time Neil comes to give some real evidence of Avni's innocence, people would have understood instead of saying that by destroying his business Vidyut will be compelled to confess!


Another dialogue which should have been changed is that Neil wanted to prevent her from becoming Ananya Varma, yes it's true on the spot she could have went and faced Vidyut if Neil told her the truth but for after arrest, there is a possibility for her becoming Ananya again after she feels betrayed, so the dialogue should have stuck to the protection part of keeping her away from Vidyut and keeping Vidyut away from her.


I mean few details but they make a very big difference


And guys if we ask for Neil solving the case immediately, there won't be a track at all, same goes for the misunderstanding (alas as I feel Avni needed to know right after her arrest), so I guess about these two points we should stop complaining, but we want is CVs showing more plans of Neil, some during the six months as well, even if they failed it's ok, as we know the purpose of the track.
Another thing mentioned by "neeraja" I guess in one of her posts, is about Neil connecting the dots and infering that Avni was trying to run away, I feel it's a pleasant thing, we know indian tv is heroine centric and if we can accept Avni becoming Michael Scofield (a genius mechanical engineer from the american series Prison Break) with a journalism degree and only 6months of training then what Neil did was something possible, so what's surprising at that.


Tracks run with Neil facing the heat to allow the drama to go ahead and run for longer, for example not doing a DNA test since the very beginning in Juhi track, waiting more before taking action in all the instances where he was compared to Ashish Mehta, so here also the poor guy despite not being the only responsible for the current situation he will still be the most questioned.



Let's again see the options: 1- If he didn't trust her people would have been pissed off ki how he didn't trust her and put her in jail (by the way she was going to jail anyways in case she didn't run away because evidence was against her, Neil didn't want to arrest her, he was ready to give a resignation letter, so when people say he did her injustice I'm like how kind of, if he didn't arrest her someone else would have!), 2- If he proved her innocence on the spot, then no track at all, Vidyut would have been behind bars or Neil/AvNeil behind Vidyut in a catch me if you can kind of mission 3- If he shared his plan with her, either she would have faced Vidyut (eventually, and landed in a new trouble) or people would have called it another repitition of the separation tracks from the past and then no angst, it would have been just another mission, with Avni in jail and Neil trying to find evidence and if ever Avni gets to know that her Neil is facing problems out of jail, she wouldn't have sat idle and she would have broke yet another promise to help him as she will say my Neil is doing all this for me and I can't even help!!


So honestly given the option and for them to show something slightly different with sepration being real they had to do something and they came with it, in part it's logical, part dramatic.


So I guess we are just too demanding, otherwise we can find some logic in Neil's actions, and I can connect to his tadap for his wife, everything he is doing he is doing it for Avni, yes there was that small scene where DD informed him of Avni being attacked which wasn't convincing but I guess the rest was good especially if we take into consideration that they show other scenes where he has to do other things, and hence not only show his emotions, yes I love emotional scenes more especially during separation track and I need his feelings for Avni to be highlighted ( as if we don't already know how much he loves her) but I feel even when they show an emotional scene fans still complain and say they can't connect as they feel with Neo plan only at hand Neil isn't trying enough! so no matter what he does he will still face the heat. (I hope they show more things in the upcoming episodes)



On a lighter note (joke), I feel he will take a bullet in her place at the end of the track tab jake fans will eventually feel he is doing something for Avni! (maybe Vidyut saying to avni if u can't be mine u can be no one's and trying to kill her and then Neil saving her and taking the bullet in her place), poor Neil he has eventually always to go through a near death experience to see a change in his life!

The fact is if everybody becomes perfect and behaves the way they are supposed to behave in the show then the story will become very simple and we will have nothing to discuss😛

Originally posted by: -DragonFire-

The fact is if everybody becomes perfect and behaves the way they are supposed to behave in the show then the story will become very simple and we will have nothing to discuss😛

Originally posted by: vijaya138

Correct dragon! But what to do? 6 months he couldn't do anything to vidhyut. But with a piece of clothing he thought that avni is the one who is escaping.

I feel only programming named avni is only present in Neil's brain now. Rest is effected with virus.

Neil's brain works with logic only when it comes to avnis mistakes. Rest I don't know what to say

First week Cv showed how Avni was in 6 months , hr lfeelings, planning, hope this week they Neel' s planning,,what all he did