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Posted: 3 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: infinity101

Hey there ❤️ Sorry to interrupt both of your discussion in between but I would like to ask you one thing. I have read your views/analysis and I found them interesting, I totally respect your POV but I want to know how exactly do you expect Rishabh to support Pratha? He considers her an enemy/threat/prime suspect, this was the only reason he married her and still remains married to her. How could he be non judgemental about her when she is the only one who is on his radar right now. She hasn't told him anything, keeps on disappearing, he has a lot of reasons to doubt her and not trust her, where exactly should he start with supporting her when he doesn't even have any faith in her? I know he has reached a stagnant point where he is not going beyond doubting her but neither he is getting any clarity on those doubts nor him and Pratha are communicating about anything. They are in a situation of deadlock right now, she is his wife legally but she is not even a normal friend to him, she is a suspect in his eyes, why would he support her in any sense? Also when her friend died and she was upset, he did come to console her, that was a genuine and sweet gesture from his side, so it's not like he is incapable of being nice and decent to her, it's just that he has zero trust in her, absolutely zero, so I don't see him supporting her or not being so judgemental towards her, he has every right to, that's why he married her in the first place.


Also when her friend died and she was upset, hedid come to console her, that was a genuine and sweet gesture from his side, soit's not like he is incapable of being nice and decent to her, it's just thathe has zero trust in her, absolutely zero, so I don't see him supporting her ornot being so judgemental towards her, he has every right to, that's why he married her in the first place.


Yeah that was indeed a Genuine and Nice Gesture from his side but he did that bcoz he did not know the whole truth about her of being the Shesh-Naagin.


Yes he has Zero Trust in her now but for how long will he continue to suspect her on just one piece of Circumstantial evidence? Why doesn't he take her into confidence and then Interrogate her about the same rather than wasting his time on some Fake Romance Drama?

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Posted: 3 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: masked


Also when her friend died and she was upset, hedid come to console her, that was a genuine and sweet gesture from his side, soit's not like he is incapable of being nice and decent to her, it's just thathe has zero trust in her, absolutely zero, so I don't see him supporting her ornot being so judgemental towards her, he has every right to, that's why he married her in the first place.


Yeah that was indeed a Genuine and Nice Gesture from his side but he did that bcoz he did not know the whole truth about her of being the Shesh-Naagin.


Yes he has Zero Trust in her now but for how long will he continue to suspect her on just one piece of Circumstantial evidence? Why doesn't he take her into confidence and then Interrogate her about the same rather than wasting his time on some Fake Romance Drama?

Yeah well I agree that by doing that fake romance stupidity he isn't gaining anything so he should try something else. But we all know that romance is for pleasing us viewers/shippers otherwise we would get no moments between the leads 😆 I would also blame it on the sloppy writing too, hardly the other characters including Rishabh are being paid attention to, I made another thread also that the story is a mess right now, they are going too fast with killing off enemies, the episodes have become boring and one dimensional, they should improve the plot and it needs a lot of work otherwise the TRPs would soon start dropping, like it has happened with the previous seasons. Rishabh isn't doing anything much right now and I am kinda disappointed because he is my fav character in the show, I expect more from him other than just romancing Pratha/fooling her around and asking her stupid questions all the time, like if he doubts her, why he keeps on asking her where she went etc, as if she is gonna tell him the truth. He could try following her or something, but this is an Ekta show we are talking about, logics and reasoning have never been a strong or focusing point in her shows, she can make her characters dumb/dumbest at her whim. But I would really like to see more action from Rishabh. Waise who do you think would fall in love first?
Edited by infinity101 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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We are talking about Naagins here though and yes like you said not everyone can use it for the right purpose or to effectively or efficiently accomplish their objectives don't you think the same logic would apply in Rishab's case? or are you expecting him to be a super human with a super brain?


Start a Rishabh Fan-Club then huh.


Sia was not forced to marry Viraj now was she? She married him out of her own choice the domestic violence was a consequence of such a marriage but then again only Viraaj is accountable for the domestic violence since that is his karma alone.


Agreed with the point but I used the argument since your favorite quote seems to be- everyone is responsible for their own actions irrespective of who made them do it.But it does not apply in every case.

If any particular Government engages in a Scam or a country declares war will you hold the Public accountable? Isn't that a stretching a bit too far? Mixing up everything huh.


So that way even Rishabh is not a mindreader himself to guess what's going on in Pratha's mind. Also here it's his childhood friend and love that has targeted Pratha as a suspicious character, and by the way now that i think about it Rishab is not the only one who suspects Pratha, there are other people in the gujraal house who do so especially Urvashi, that chachi, reem's sister and these people are doing it without any proof against her.


Whether Rithik was a mindreader or not deep down in his heart he felt Shivanya wasn't evil as she was made out to be but still chose to stab her because his foster mother or aunt told him to do so thereby he can be held responsible for it.


Yeah agreed with the above point but you ignore the fact that he was entirely misled by Yamini.But as per your logic still Ritik should be the accused one huh?


Really then why do you care so much if Pratha ends up getting hurt or is on the losing end because of Rishab's cynical and suspicious nature. I was talking about pratha using Maahir as an example who was suffering initially because of Bela's unilateral judgement.


Are u out of your mind or what? Then why do you care to defend Rishabh that much? What are u talking about-if any viewer likes or cares about any character then its their choice entirely.


The moot point is not about caring for this character or that character but predicting the future events based on the current story.


If you only express your concern for him alone and dismiss the naagin's who goes through the same thing then yes i would because if I see a bias I will definitely talk about it.


What are you saying? And what's this Bias thing? U r accusing me of Bias really? As if you are not biased against Pratha or the other Naagins before her.Again an irrational point.


What do you mean by what did I expect him to do? Aren't you normalising his behavior because he is a certain type of character by actually asking this question? Did Veer know she was AdiNaagin at that point? To him she was just a mere human being who supposedly managed to kill his weak twin brother. Whether she could retaliate or not are you actually saying that it's okay for a guy to resort to domestic abuse just because of XYZ reason?


So what did you mean when you said that - If you had said it out of humanity then I canunderstand but why should they do it for any other reason? Howdid Humanity come into all this huh?


Aren't you normalising his behavior because he is a certain type of character by actually asking this question?


Stop putting words into my mouth all right-I have already specified that whatever Veer did after Teer's death was totally unjustifiable but its pretty normal from his POV bcoz he saw Bani as the killer there.Veer is a fictional character and yeah even real characters execute unjustified actions in the name of revenge if you had watched Savdhaan India or Crime Patrol.


I am not saying that what they do is right but from their perspective it looks right from their POV which is what I meant to say.


What do you want? A Perfect Real-World or a Perfect ML or FL? U urself have written FF with both the presence of negative/Postive and Grey characters but for every point u seem to bring reality into the same.



So basically you are saying that if a guy is bad from the beginning their wrongs actions can be overlooked? Has it not occured to you that even Rishabh could be a grey character himself? Clearly even he is not a goody two shoes or perfect guy as you are expecting him to be.


Again putting words into my mouth? Did I or anybody else that a person's wrong action can be overlooked if he turns a good guy later onwards huh? What do u want-A Perfect Typed Answer.


People ship characters not because of what they are at the moment but rather because of the potential they see through the pair for the story. That way I see people shipping psychos, murderers, narcissists, with the ML or FL expecting them to change or reform over time. If you ask me Veer wasn't a character to be shipped with Bani at all in the beginning but people liked him regardless which affected the story as a result.


Yeah I know these things already so what's new in that? Every character will have flaws right?


People do keep stuff like that in their bags, that note is a valuable piece of information, you don't really think it would get discarded right away, on top of that it was just half the note which was in her bag. When you have half a message it's natural to keep it with yourself so you could read the entire message on collecting the other.


I don't think there was a scene where Pratha willingly kept that torn note in the bag herself.


Shapeshifters don't exist in the real world but frauds and criminals do right? If you knew that a suspicious person has charmed you sibling are you going to just sit and watch them marry that person? Would you actually not doubt that if your sibling marries such a person they would literally be ruining their life? Yes there are cases where couples break apart but honestly being tagged as a divorcee makes people wonder why or simply avoid pursuing any form of relationship with them at least that's how it's in arranged marriages. Then there is the psychological effect of seperating from a lifelong partner which could leave behind emotional scars. I know this because I have people who are divorcees around me who think twice before pursuing another relationship.


Honestly man such deep analysis.Psychological effect and all that Heavy Stuff Isn't It? Do u know the difference between a real and fictional character or even the difference between Ficitional and Real World in the first place?


I am simply unable to figure out that what is the purpose of bringing such statements- Shapeshifters don't exist in the real world but frauds and criminals do right? If you knew that a suspicious person has charmed you sibling are you going to just sit and watch them marry that person? Would you actually not doubt that if your sibling marries such a person they would literally be ruining their life?


Yes I don't deny that such issues happen in the real world otherwise there won't be any Savdhaan India or Crime Patrol depiciting such incidents but this is almost like strecthing a point beyond the realm of Fact or Fiction.


Let me repeat that no man whether he's Fictional or Real can be Perfect right so what's the point of bringing such issues for the defence of a mere fictional character?


I know this because I have people who are divorcees around me who think twice before pursuing another relationship.


Whatever has happened in their lives are unfortunate and the past cannot be bought back but all we can do is wish the best for them so that they can move ahead and have a better life.


I think u need to stop bringing or mixing real life issues beyond a point bcoz whenever u discuss any fictional character bcoz in that way every character will have flaws whether they are positive/negative or grey.


We are here to simply discuss and express our POV and while yes real life issues can certainly be discussed on this forum they need to be in the context of a relevant discussion. Going overboard in certain characters defense is certainly not advisable neither having certain false assumptions.


If u wanna discuss real life issues then the whole point gets derailed.Nothing in this world is perfect.


And yes I still find Rishabh's character boring so what?















Edited by masked - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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If i have to compare leads of Naagin 1 - 6, rishabh is def at the bottom of the list. Almost every ML in previous naagin seasons had one thing that was peculiar and made audiences love them. Leads like Ritik, Maahir (especially) and Veer were so different from each other and yet they all had one thing in common, the way they stood by their naagins from the start. coming back to rishabh, i just cant connect with his character. His character is so aimless if we evaluate his actions. He is an army officer but that's it. I dont see anything that shows that in his actions. He is busy chasing pratha based on a suspicion that makes no sense logically. he saw a torn piece of paper in pratha's bag that was part of paper he received from a complete stranger and he concluded that she is here to harm his country and family?? 😆. It s a freaking piece of paper that holds no credibility so cant even call it circumstantial evidence. he married pratha saying he was trying to protect his brother, based on what?ritesh was the one madly pursuing pratha so he should have put his efforts there in making him understand instead of blaming pratha for ritesh being interested in her. there is not one scene which can prove that pratha wanted to marry ritesh or did anything to attract ritesh. Rishabh claims to love reem since childhood but it looks so forced and unbelievable. people keep questioning why pratha needed to marry for her goal. at least we can connect with her goal as its been clear and evolving since day 1 unlike rishabh who has not done anything he should do as an army officer. there was no need to marry pratha for his suspicion. he had enough means to investigate properly and take legal route but he didnt. he doesn't have anything that i can consider as concrete to suspect pratha. So at this point he is playing a game in the name of marriage and is cheating pratha. Regardless of the reasons behind this marriage, it happened with full rituals and its fully legal. Whatever he is doing with Reem is EMA, plain and simple. Even if rishabh doesnt love pratha, the least he could do is respect the institution of marriage. He shouldnt have married pratha if he couldn't respect marriage.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: john909

If i have to compare leads of Naagin 1 - 6, rishabh is def at the bottom of the list. Almost every ML in previous naagin seasons had one thing that was peculiar and made audiences love them. Leads like Ritik, Maahir (especially) and Veer were so different from each other and yet they all had one thing in common, the way they stood by their naagins from the start. coming back to rishabh, i just cant connect with his character. His character is so aimless if we evaluate his actions. He is an army officer but that's it. I dont see anything that shows that in his actions. He is busy chasing pratha based on a suspicion that makes no sense logically. he saw a torn piece of paper in pratha's bag that was part of paper he received from a complete stranger and he concluded that she is here to harm his country and family?? 😆. It s a freaking piece of paper that holds no credibility so cant even call it circumstantial evidence. he married pratha saying he was trying to protect his brother, based on what?ritesh was the one madly pursuing pratha so he should have put his efforts there in making him understand instead of blaming pratha for ritesh being interested in her. there is not one scene which can prove that pratha wanted to marry ritesh or did anything to attract ritesh. Rishabh claims to love reem since childhood but it looks so forced and unbelievable. people keep questioning why pratha needed to marry for her goal. at least we can connect with her goal as its been clear and evolving since day 1 unlike rishabh who has not done anything he should do as an army officer. there was no need to marry pratha for his suspicion. he had enough means to investigate properly and take legal route but he didnt. he doesn't have anything that i can consider as concrete to suspect pratha. So at this point he is playing a game in the name of marriage and is cheating pratha. Regardless of the reasons behind this marriage, it happened with full rituals and its fully legal. Whatever he is doing with Reem is EMA, plain and simple. Even if rishabh doesnt love pratha, the least he could do is respect the institution of marriage. He shouldnt have married pratha if he couldn't respect marriage.

i totally agree here.

S1 s3 s5 the ml were so different. Everyone has different place in my heart.

S1.rithink respected her loved her without any conditions even though the marriage took place all of sudden

S3.Even though there were so many incidents where bela herself irritated him he took a stand and supported her. That preganancy track.. the engmnt and marriage track with vikrant and so on. He was so mature even he saved her many times even being just human like shahnawaz track and krish track.

S5 Veer was her saviour from the beginning right from her childhood. Even though she always seem to be angry with him he still made sure to protect her

This is the major reason i am unable to connect with s6. They are only focusing on shesh naagin and rishab is shown as some random guy who does not even care what's going on with his wife. He just assumes she is with terrorist or doing some odd jobs than following her and verifying if everything is alright.

In all the previous season i hardly recall any scenes where the fl was missing from home and ml was least bothered and flirted with his past gf.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: firewings_diya

i totally agree here.

S1 s3 s5 the ml were so different. Everyone has different place in my heart.

S1.rithink respected her loved her without any conditions even though the marriage took place all of sudden

S3.Even though there were so many incidents where bela herself irritated him he took a stand and supported her. That preganancy track.. the engmnt and marriage track with vikrant and so on. He was so mature even he saved her many times even being just human like shahnawaz track and krish track.

S5 Veer was her saviour from the beginning right from her childhood. Even though she always seem to be angry with him he still made sure to protect her

This is the major reason i am unable to connect with s6. They are only focusing on shesh naagin and rishab is shown as some random guy who does not even care what's going on with his wife. He just assumes she is with terrorist or doing some odd jobs than following her and verifying if everything is alright.

In all the previous season i hardly recall any scenes where the fl was missing from home and ml was least bothered and flirted with his past gf.

So true! Mahir was such a sweetheart I swear, he's my favourite by far

Even Ritik, how he used to crack silly jokes, always making sure to make her comfortable in their sudden marriage. Also Rocky (tbh I don't like him that much compared to Mahir & Ritik), but even though he was so certain that Shivangi's having an affair with Rudra, he still stood by her and constantly cared for her and didn't act upon Shesha's advances.

They really need to focus on PraRish now, so many people have so many issues with how they're showing PraRish. The lead couple's love story must be good for the season to work out.

Ektaaaa, are you listening... 😡

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: mish_18

So true! Mahir was such a sweetheart I swear, he's my favourite by far

Even Ritik, how he used to crack silly jokes, always making sure to make her comfortable in their sudden marriage. Also Rocky (tbh I don't like him that much compared to Mahir & Ritik), but even though he was so certain that Shivangi's having an affair with Rudra, he still stood by her and constantly cared for her and didn't act upon Shesha's advances.

They really need to focus on PraRish now, so many people have so many issues with how they're showing PraRish. The lead couple's love story must be good for the season to work out.

Ektaaaa, are you listening... 😡

they need to focus multi things. 😆

1. Ml ko kaam do koi. We cant see him just flirting with naagin instead of saving his desh.

2. Asura ka kuch story dikhao aise hi ek din ka mehman na banao 😒 i will not mind if they bring 7 headed snake and say that those are 7 asurs and kill them all at once. If its just a matter of time.

( oh i can use this in my ff 🤣 )

3. They should stop repeating same dialogues.

4. They should focus more on content than spending time in finding sexy cloths for mehak 🤣

5. Rest of the cast hardly appears in 1 or 2 scenes. I really dont know what was the purpose of blocking calendar for sudhaji and kamolika when they hardly have 1 scene in a week. Family members are hardly shown in this season earlier it was like people used to complain that every week there would be a aprty in naagin which had atleast 1 dance from leads

But yahan looking at the focus to kill enemy we might get once in two weeks or three weeks not as regular as other naagin season😆

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: firewings_diya

they need to focus multi things. 😆

1. Ml ko kaam do koi. We cant see him just flirting with naagin instead of saving his desh.

2. Asura ka kuch story dikhao aise hi ek din ka mehman na banao 😒 i will not mind if they bring 7 headed snake and say that those are 7 asurs and kill them all at once. If its just a matter of time.

( oh i can use this in my ff 🤣 )

3. They should stop repeating same dialogues.

4. They should focus more on content than spending time in finding sexy cloths for mehak 🤣

5. Rest of the cast hardly appears in 1 or 2 scenes. I really dont know what was the purpose of blocking calendar for sudhaji and kamolika when they hardly have 1 scene in a week. Family members are hardly shown in this season earlier it was like people used to complain that every week there would be a aprty in naagin which had atleast 1 dance from leads

But yahan looking at the focus to kill enemy we might get once in two weeks or three weeks not as regular as other naagin season😆

OMG you made a list! So organised you are 😆

See there's a naagin fanpage, they also posted a full fledged suggestion list.

P.s. ye laal tekri ka raaz kya hai bhai 😆

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbxB0HgPyMf/?utm_medium=copy_link

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: mish_18

OMG you made a list! So organised you are 😆

See there's a naagin fanpage, they also posted a full fledged suggestion list.

P.s. ye laal tekri ka raaz kya hai bhai 😆

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbxB0HgPyMf/?utm_medium=copy_link

lal tekri came in s4 😆 sirf manyata ko patha tha woh toh margayi. 🤣
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: firewings_diya

lal tekri came in s4 😆 sirf manyata ko patha tha woh toh margayi. 🤣

Lol somebody pls insert that Nana Patekar meme here 'vo raaz bhi ussi ke sath chala gaya' 🤣

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