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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sooo, I finally got around to watching the week's run - and read up all the threads and tried to skim the best through most replies too - and like most of the people here, think the week overall was pretty well done, and well rounded up all the more, after the Thurs merger! Khair. The MahaSangam whatever was expected to be crap, so I didn't even bother rolling eyes at the melodrama that MM were dragged into as well! just decided to take away the fact that MM had an assignment together and Mohan finally helped Megha in something without messing up. Grounds for her to consider him worth at least a chance, finally. Baki toh that episode was maha-blah-sangam drama high

For the rest of the week - and I was going to send this PM anyway, lol! - I like the shift between MM post the lift scene. Mohan isn't in love even yet, and even though Guru made a parallel "pyaar" Maa-Baapu story, and made Mohan re-think, it isn't pyaar. But it also isn't as simply compassionate or humanly platonic as it was until before the lift scenes. The weight has shifted. The emphasis has shifted. He can figure the difference in his own self, the way Megha and things/situations related to Megha make him react reflexively. And he's not shying away from it or in denial - but accepting the shift and troubled by it. Because like he told Guru once, once burnt, he can't trust again.

Still, going by what I said in some post last week, I say that's where Megha and Mohan's interaction balances out. While he is going to become her instrument to justice, and a partner and support system thereon, a completion to her midway half empty life; Megha's person and ideology and life and ethics will rub off on Mohan to compel him into becoming a believer again, the kind who can throw discard caution and take a chance with human trust.

@Prateek front - Wow. They gave a comic touch to his lech manner? That I didn't see coming. Can't say whether I like it or not at this point, but I can say it's something I'm willing to bid and watch out for, against the usual lech villain melodrama from n other shows. Sure, making him the bad guy is a twist I wont be forgiving, and sure, watching him as the lech guy, even with a comic tinge, isn't really happening, I think it's still some solace to watching plain OTT lech drama. The ace is in making Mohan realize promptly. I'm tempted to believe also, from Mohan's mind thoughts, that Prateek may not have shown such behavior in the past at least to the best of Mohan's knowledge. The fallout of this MM-Prateek tangent is Megha not discerning anything off at all. It's more than a little incredible to me, and the only way I can temporarily dismiss it is because he is after all her best friend Prerna's husband. And - just a little perhaps - because Mohan so far has been shown so hand in glove with him, it's almost a subconscious second vote of confidence Megha has to Prateek's favor. The question is, while Mohan is sure to not have any doubts about Megha and Prateek at any point, for any reason - will Megha's gut trust in Mohan be enough to take his word as and when he is compelled to show her Prateek's low intentions? That should be interesting to watch. Meanwhile, Prerna's statement about Prateek not liking home food - I don't think she has any clue, but I dare say she will be fast to catch on. Faster than Megha perhaps. Let's see.

The cactus scene was another example of the brilliant writing this show has. The metaphorism is always admirable! 👏 And I love how Mohan the cactus is going to begin bearing flowers when watered with dedication and patience by Megha ... The best part is that Megha has no conscious intention of improving Mohan, or changing anything about him, taking up any of his cause, and so on. But just like the thought of watering his cactus came to her - because she trusts him not to do it - she has this compulsive "set-things-right" streak, which will entwine her into the process of Mohan's reform from cynicism to belief. As for Mohan's belief on cactus being accustomed to next to no care, and having thorns to keep concerns and people away - what a perfect parallel! For someone who is a compulsive softie like him, the cactus metaphor still makes so much sense because he does keep people at bay. Not like angry young boss, but just with his disdain and cynicism. All the way from the initial episodes when he told Guru the house was perfect because there was peace and no children! And then more recently when he said he likes quiet evenings his books and music and "shaanti" - Mohan, like all cynics, is strictly territorial in some very bachelor cum seen enough of life ways...

Finally I love the way Mohan mocks Megha's achaar papad work at ofc at every point, to off handedly throw in points about how she should aim for better and higher because she can! Again, this isn't a guy who feels obliged to help this woman improve or rise. Yet, the way they have come about to be, he knows what mettle she is made up of, has sensed the difference, and somewhere, his mockery arises less from her amateur work and efforts and more from his cynicism for her settling for less than she is capable of! It's such a wonderful irony, that he mocks her, because he takes her more seriously than she is taking herself!

Overall that I guess?! I must have missed something or the other, but covered the most I think. Oh... Renu vs Guru was funny and not slapstick for the most, which I'm thankful about. Also, Guru losing was a nice touch by the writers. Because like he tells Renu, she must have prayed with her heart for once... I like that hint from the writers. How Renu is not such a bad person, as she is superficial or shallow. A dire moment can actually change her into a better person, in time, and all is not lost. So when she will eventually become someone better - not Megha like, but her own version of better - it will not be so overnight incredible, but something she bore streaks of. Too philo for Renu's character, but well, I just liked how that went!

@monkey man - no speculating. Just gonna let the episodes air and see where it goes 😆

@Dimpy - a little less annoying with time. As long as they don't pull off a Prateek on her, I'm okay with her character and space. Megha can do with a light hearted companion like her - and Megha watching Dimpy grate Mohan's nerves is an absolute treat 😆

ps: Nur, any intentions of making a Mohan the infamous cheeku ka beej siggie?! Text icon?! Pallo, et tu?!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#42
Oooh Jzee, you posted here also...I just finished replying to your PM...

Ditto most of what you pointed out...LOVED the cactus symbolism...possibly my most fav. moment of the week.

You've described it beautifully here:

As for Mohan's belief on cactus being accustomed to next to no care, and having thorns to keep concerns and people away - what a perfect parallel! For someone who is a compulsive softie like him, the cactus metaphor still makes so much sense because he does keep people at bay. Not like angry young boss, but just with his disdain and cynicism. All the way from the initial episodes when he told Guru the house was perfect because there was peace and no children! And then more recently when he said he likes quiet evenings his books and music and "shaanti" - Mohan, like all cynics, is strictly territorial in some very bachelor cum seen enough of life ways...



SO true...he does like to keep ppl at bay...for all sorts of reasons...and that was very well symbolized in this scene.

Arey you want a cheeku ka beej icon?? Yaar I refuse to use any quote of that creepster Prateek😡😆...actually I still have to make you your wed waces wala animated icon and all...I'll make those soon.

But yeah Pallo might make it...provided she's managed to catch up with the show...she's been gaayab all week too.





Edited by AreYaar - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Oh Pallo's been gone too?! Can I be oh-so-modest-not and imagine how much you must have missed the gush-mates! 😆 😆

Dude - the cactus symbolism was epic. I just love how the CVs (like Gulaal's, might I add?) seem to remember all the tiny details and props, to make use of them multiple times, in multiple ways. When the cactus first showed up, it was an expression of Megha's exceptional treatment and attitude for Mohan's sake - the side of her no one, or rarely anyone is exposed to. In the second innings, the cactus becomes symbolic of Mohan's own character and how credibly! Megha's further assertion of it's potential to flower, and her effort to make it happen even if in a patronizing and shaking head manner is a perfect fit!

@creepster and his words of wisdom - areyyaar!!! Mohan being "cheeku ka beej" is just whacky 😆 toh ek toh banta hai!!! But if the waces icon comes, I shall be happily compromising 😆

Replying for the rest in the PM itself - in public interest, khule aam toh main muh band hi rakhun 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: JZephyr

Oh Pallo's been gone too?! Can I be oh-so-modest-not and imagine how much you must have missed the gush-mates! 😆 😆 LOL yes you guys were very very much missed...but dil pe patthar rakh ke I survived this week somehow *sniffs*😛😆


Dude - the cactus symbolism was epic. I just love how the CVs (like Gulaal's, might I add?) seem to remember all the tiny details and props, to make use of them multiple times, in multiple ways. When the cactus first showed up, it was an expression of Megha's exceptional treatment and attitude for Mohan's sake - the side of her no one, or rarely anyone is exposed to. In the second innings, the cactus becomes symbolic of Mohan's own character and how credibly! Megha's further assertion of it's potential to flower, and her effort to make it happen even if in a patronizing and shaking head manner is a perfect fit! AWESOME point👏...yes exactly the writers floored me with how well they EVOLVED the symbolism of the cactus...initially it was to show Megha's disdain for Mohan...but look at her now...SHE'S the very person WATERING it...NURTURING it...that SYMBOL of what she thinks Mohan is...prickly and khadoos...and then she herself is talking of patience bearing fruit...or flowers in this case...while Mohan scoffs at that and shows skepticism for her theory.

I would LOVE it if the writers tied this in further along the story too and actually show that cactus blooming one day as the changes happen in Mohan too.

btw that reminds me...didn't Mohan ask Guru to buy some flower pots for their house? Uska kya hua? Did Guru actually ever buy those? Kyunki uska matlab hua ki phool ek sense mein toh kahin khil hi rahe hain...chaahe abhi cactus pe nahin😆




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Posted: 13 years ago
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WORD on everything you've said Anu.

Would just like to comment on two things:

1) I thought that the symbolism for cactus applied to Megha instead of Mohan ... Megha being a cactus, prickly (at least towards Mohan), aloof (she's with everyone, and yet she's alone without Amar's presence in her life), thriving even in the driest places of the earth (like her in-laws place). Cacti do what they can to survive. And I thought Mohan symbolizes water that empowers even a prickly plant like cactus to bloom into flowers. With Megha watering the cactus herself, symbolizing Megha's reluctant acceptance of Mohan in her life. ... or may I am over thinking too much as well 😆

2) Mohan's challenging laugh directed towards Prateek when he subtlety warns him that he will telltale to Prerna if he tries to makes inappropriate advances towards Megha. That was Mohan at one of his best... It wasn't a dil-kullaas hasi ... it was a defiant one ...whereas Megha's was an approving one... leaving Prateek frustrated. I watched the last scene 2-3 times. Kunal is truly living his role as Mohan.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: LadyMcbeth

WORD on everything you've said Anu.


Would just like to comment on two things:

1) I thought that the symbolism for cactus applied to Megha instead of Mohan ... Megha being a cactus, prickly (at least towards Mohan), aloof (she's with everyone, and yet she's alone without Amar's presence in her life), thriving even in the driest places of the earth (like her in-laws place). Cacti do what they can to survive. And I thought Mohan symbolizes water that empowers even a prickly plant like cactus to bloom into flowers. With Megha watering the cactus herself, symbolizing Megha's reluctant acceptance of Mohan in her life. ... or may I am over thinking too much as well 😆

2) Mohan's challenging laugh directed towards Prateek when he subtlety warns him that he will telltale to Prerna if he tries to makes inappropriate advances towards Megha. That was Mohan at one of his best... It wasn't a dil-kullaas hasi ... it was a defiant one ...whereas Megha's was an approving one... leaving Prateek frustrated. I watched the last scene 2-3 times. Kunal is truly living his role as Mohan.



LOL you know LadyM...there are equally strong arguments for both theories on the cactus symbolism...that Mohan is the cactus or Megha is...both work well I guess...depends on how a person reads into the dialogues...I read into them more directly cuz of Mohan's personality and the fact that the cactus sort of symbolized him to begin with with the way Megha put it on his desk when she joined the office...and for the fact that it is Megha that is bringing about those changes in Mohan mainly too...nurturing him...that symbolism is there more than Mohan "nurturing" her per se to get "flowers" out of her.


Yeah Mohan was AWESOME in the final scene with the way he warned Prateek...defiant like you said...panga nahin lene ka types...such an awesome TAPORI he is😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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New Ashnoor-Aakanksha pic posted in the gallery...awww


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Posted: 13 years ago
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I caught up, I caught up! :D lol I skipped the merger episode though...who watches that Uttaran show man? :S How can anyone sit through that crap!?

And JZ, dude, why would you want a sig from anything that Prateek says? :S lol...I also refuse to make anything coming out of that creep's mouth...sorryyy. :P The laces wala sig sounds so exciting though! Nicee... :D

And aww you're using that Guru-Mohan sig. 🤗 That one's my favourite...lol. Just for those awesome expressions. :D

And ohhh Anu made a sig on that tel maalish scene! :D LOL It's awesome! 😆 LOL at Guru's sitting pose...all in his shorts and chappal and all. 😆 And the text is super adorable too. :))

Anyhow...this week was pretty good. Loved Friday's episode and Mohan's quick wit and sharpness. 😎

I'm also really enjoying the office bickering and dynamics. This Dimpy totally fits in so much better than Prateek atleast. I liked the role reversal of Mohan doing the explaining for once and Megha listening. lol Megha's amusement out of Dimpy irritating Mohan was fun to watch too.

Some awesome Mohan-isms in this episode. :D I liked the, "Masttt hai"...haha man is Kunal like SUPER comfortable with Mohan's character or what? He's just so damn spontaneous and into it...everything that comes out of Mohan's mouth almost is entertaining to me. :P lol I love Mohan's confidence. 😎

The cactus symbolism was just awesome. I'm loving all the interpretations that are coming out of that one. I also liked the way Mohan says, "Cactus ko aadat hoti hai bina paani ke rehne ki". I liked the use of the word "aadat". Ok that song "aadat se majboor" is getting stuck in my head now. But...Mohan is totally a victim of habit I feel. Totally nonchalant and masttt. lol He can pretty much become accustomed to any situation too. Just like the cactus. As we saw with the lift scenes too. And the scene where he is pulling out all kinds of stuff from his pockets. He doesn't like to bother with much...even if he doesn't get his water...he's fine the way he is. Comfortable in his skin no matter what...but at the same time he's also very cynical and "thorny"...so that's where Megha comes in to bring a little patience, and blooming, and growth and colours into his life. Because that flowering does represent this growth too. And Mohan doesn't really seem to want to grow up. lol He seems fine the way he is. :P

And also very interesting is the use of the plant cactus itself. A plant that can be a loner in a sense. It can adapt to any situation and handle things on its own...and hence doesn't really need much support. At least so it seems on the outside. And for that reason the cactus has a defense mechanism of growing thorns to keep people away. And so interesting how Megha understands (on a metaphorical subconscious level of course) that the thorns are after all only a defense mechanism. And the cactus (Mohan) does, just like other plants (humans) needs that nurturing and watering just the same. Just HOW sweet is this idea really! The idea that Megha would want to be patient and slowly nurture and nourish Mohan's life!? It's the sweetest thing, really. The fact that she of all people understands this about Mohan...albeit subconsciously only...but still...I can't get over how heartwarming this idea is. :)

And Mohan too in his subtle protector mode. 😆 Totally awesome! Another interesting idea was the fact that he got Megha surrounded by a whole team. Including Karan and Dimpy. To me, this kind of indicates that these people will be trustworthy. I hope so, because I do kind of enjoy the dynamics between these guys.

And the subtle little digs Mohan was taking at that lallu Prateek were awesome! Especially that wicked, sly si, omniscient si smile Mohan gives at the end. With just the right glint in his eye...the perfect balance of a warning, and a humorous dig. :P Kunal was damn awesome there! 👍🏼

Oh and I quite enjoyed Guru and Renu too. :P lol If any other actors would've performed these scenes, it may have ended up in the slapstick category...but these guys always bring life into their scenes. lol And if anyone is capable of "fixing" Renu, it's Guru. lol As if he actually got her to pray with heart for once. :P haha That was an interesting little dynamic between them I thought. Especially because Guru has always been so devoted and genuinely religious. And Renu has always been superficial and selfish with her religious rituals also. lol Interesting to see, also, that it's not just Mohan, but Guru also that is causing a little change in this Vyas household. I think it's a cute way to build Guru's equation with these guys too. Nanhi ke saath toh he has buddy-ed up solid already. :P lol

All in all, interesting week...and the precap...is interesting too...let's see. lol
Edited by pigbelly4myfeet - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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So neither of you is ready to yield to cheeku ka beej?! *fine then I guess look*

But yehhh me too! I LOVED that Guru scene, one of his best sulky biwi acts yet, and I just luvreee the modulation in his words through single sentences. Just like you talk about Kunal being in the skin of Mohan, Guru's sunriyaa hun, dekhriyaa hun is Dushyant being so into Guru's skin 😆 And yes, yes, Mohan saying masttt hai to that article toh was epic - but more epic was how Dimpy goes sachi! and even Megha looks bright and then he tells them they can sell it to a director because it is good for a children's essay - which btw Nur, I forgot to point out, was the cynic writer again, I'M SO TELLING YOU!!! He can't stop taking digs 😆

Acha and I was just looking at that avi in my dabba and I remembered how Mohan had suggested to pick that skull and bones danger phone for Prateek sir 🤣 At that point when he didn't know about Prateek's transformation from phool to cactus, he was still chossing the right thing to give Prateek - be warned of danger, from Mohan, with lowe 😆

Lady M - an interesting alter take on the cactus symbolism, with Megha being the cactus... I still would reflexively associate the cactus with Mohan, but in a sense, they both have these thorns on them to fix the strict territory they expect not invaded... and in a sense, they are going to be mutually responsible for the blooming of flowers in each other's hard to flower lives...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Luvd ur topic...Mohan is truly a sweetheart!!!

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