As fans should we support our Idol blindly

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Posted: 15 years ago
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This topic has nothing to do with Raja.


There are many singers coming out of these reality shows but the singing career of most is not prospering.


As fans our duty is to support them constructively and to try to improve them more so that they reach heights in their career.

I know many reality show contestents personally and have talked to them and also their fans and have followed these contestents closely.


I know it is very hard to thrive in bollywood but atleast if fans support the singer constructively he/she will surely work hard and will also try to improve.

If we never point out his/her mistakes and go on saying that he/she is a great singer and is best of all he/she will never know his/her faults and will never improve.

So as fans we should also be critical about our idol and accept if he/she doesnt do well and suggest him/her about how to improve and be perfect.

This has happened with Aneek and I feel it is happening for Anwesha too.


In last week episode Mika said that Anwesha sang besura but I dont see any topic being opened to discuss it.

Ok lets take Anwesha did well and Mika was wrong to say it then also Anwesha need to be praised.

In another way lets take that Mika is right and she did not sing well what is the harm in opening a topic and let Anwesha know that she did not do well and should improve.

Even if a contestent doesnt do well we put the blame on Judges or Channel or Gajji but it doesnt happen all the times.We should also judge by our ears and eyes.

I feel that the support for our Idol should be critical and constructive and not blind.
This is just my personal view you may not agree with me and you can also put forward your views.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Speaking for myself, I believe I am objective about someone's performance/work.

For example - I can say that I really admire the work of ARR. But there are some songs of his that I perhaps do not particularly enjoy - It is not up to his mark. Every piece of work or song should be judged by its own quality and not by brand. Same applies to singers.
On the flip-side, I can't say that I am a HR fan, but there are actually some songs of his (his music, not his singing) that I actually think are very well put-together. 😲
I have seen some of my favorite singers go off-sur here and there - and it throws me off a little - I flinch - but that's just my way of acknowledging the fact that ..."hmmm - not his/her best". And Live singing in itself is not an easy task.
Now I don't know that if you're a fanatic (as opposed to a fan) that you would be willing to admit that your idol isn't 100%, 100% of the time.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ab_srgmp

Speaking for myself, I believe I am objective about someone's performance/work.

For example - I can say that I really admire the work of ARR. But there are some songs of his that I perhaps do not particularly enjoy - It is not up to his mark. Every piece of work or song should be judged by its own quality and not by brand. Same applies to singers.
On the flip-side, I can't say that I am a HR fan, but there are actually some songs of his (his music, not his singing) that I actually think are very well put-together. 😲
I have seen some of my favorite singers go off-sur here and there - and it throws me off a little - I flinch - but that's just my way of acknowledging the fact that ..."hmmm - not his/her best". And Live singing in itself is not easy task.
Now I don't know that if you're a fanatic (as opposed to a fan) that you would be willing to admit that you're idol isn't 100%, 100% of the time.

Very nice post.My views match 100% with yours.
I just hear the original and the performance too so that I can judge where the mistakes are and where improvements are before coming to a conclusion.
Edited by Raghuraj - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Raghu, do u appreciate judges telling the contestants that they were better than the original...when sometimes we as viewers know they were ok?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: desicrowd

Raghu, do u appreciate judges telling the contestants that they were better than the original...when sometimes we as viewers know they were ok?

I just believe on my ears. I just laugh with my family dekho "Kaisa kharab gaya phir bhi Judges kya acting kar rahe hai".
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ab_srgmp

Speaking for myself, I believe I am objective about someone's performance/work.

For example - I can say that I really admire the work of ARR. But there are some songs of his that I perhaps do not particularly enjoy - It is not up to his mark. Every piece of work or song should be judged by its own quality and not by brand. Same applies to singers.
On the flip-side, I can't say that I am a HR fan, but there are actually some songs of his (his music, not his singing) that I actually think are very well put-together. 😲
I have seen some of my favorite singers go off-sur here and there - and it throws me off a little - I flinch - but that's just my way of acknowledging the fact that ..."hmmm - not his/her best". And Live singing in itself is not easy task.
Now I don't know that if you're a fanatic (as opposed to a fan) that you would be willing to admit that you're idol isn't 100%, 100% of the time.



I did that too! Earlier I used to hate Anu Malik for his obnoxiousness on Indian Idol. And I used to think nothing of his music - garam chaye ki pyaali and whatnot.

But one day, I felt like knowing more about his music and wanted to understand his body of work before judging him. And then I found out about how successful he had been and the highs and lows of his career. And I discovered his amazing music in Asoka, Aks, Fiza, Jaan-e-mann, Baazigar, Umrao Jaan, Refugee, Border, Virasat and many more. I have the deepest respect for him now, even though he is irritating on TV. He is truly one of the most underrated music directors of our times.

Anyway, before I start lecturing about Anu Malik's music (too late for that now I guess!), let me just say that the main thing in music is to listen. Just listen to the music and forget about the person behind it. Forget about their brand, as you aptly put it. Forget about their reputation. This way, you will find some great music in places you wouldn't have thought it existed (like Anu Malik and Himesh Reshammiya) and you will find people going wrong too at times (like A R Rahman in Chiggy Wiggy - what was that ?!).

However, I do think that composing is much harder than singing. When you compose, you are creating something new and taking a risk, so you are bound to fail at times, even if you have a lot of talent. So i can forgive composers/music directors making mistakes.

But singers should be more consistent: sur cannot be hit and miss. And the expression required in filmi songs is usually nothing very difficult to do. So if a singer could do it before, they should be able to do it again and again. If a singer becomes less surila or expressive then that just shows laziness on their part. This is why I haven't made any favourites from the reality tv circuit yet - they arent as polished as the big boys. Although Aneek tends to be really good!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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It will take years for a singer from reality show to become a big boy.One need to maintain the consistency which is very hard to maintain.

Most of the singers from reailty shows I feel they read the lyrics in sur with no feelings to the meaning of the lyrics.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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^^ Exactly, every indivual has its plus and minus and just cos he or she is successful in one doesn't mean he or she is equally good in the other... Sonu is a fab singer but he is a bad actor...similarly Himesh makes good music (not all the time) but he is nowhere matched to his composing skills when it comes to singing...

@Raghu...we do that too..laugh off at all the scripts in these shows...but you know that when the judges comment sometimes a damage is done cos lot of viewers take Judges comment as the know all POV... I do agree there are few judges who are impartial and do a good job, but the others are more engaged in minting money by doing such Dramas... Gajii's house must be a full on Kekta's serial...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Raghuraj


This topic has nothing to do with Raja.


There are many singers coming out of these reality shows but the singing career of most is not prospering.


As fans our duty is to support them constructively and to try to improve them more so that they reach heights in their career.

I know many reality show contestents personally and have talked to them and also their fans and have followed these contestents closely.


I know it is very hard to thrive in bollywood but atleast if fans support the singer constructively he/she will surely work hard and will also try to improve.

If we never point out his/her mistakes and go on saying that he/she is a great singer and is best of all he/she will never know his/her faults and will never improve.

So as fans we should also be critical about our idol and accept if he/she doesnt do well and suggest him/her about how to improve and be perfect.

This has happened with Aneek and I feel it is happening for Anwesha too.





what is happening with Anwesha or her fans? Can you be more specific and direct? If you can directly come to the point. Then we can put across our view in specific way.

I feel as fans we have right to say about anyone if he/she is good or bad. But that should be based on logic and evidences. If one say that some one is good, then why he/she is good or vice versa. Frankly our praise/critisism never helped any of these singers as most of the time they dont knw it, or they dont care. we discuss/argue here and there to satisfy our own ego.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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^^ That's true too. I think they should do more riyaz and then they'll be OK. But i must say, many of these reality show stars, like Aneek, Amit Paul, Ameya Date, Aishwarya, Anwesha, deserve to get playback offers. They are realllyyy good.

And when theyll have their OWN songs to sing, they'll be amazing. E.g. Sharib was amazing when he sang his own song O Soniyo.

The top Music Directors don't want to take risks by giving these guys any good offers. But Im sure their day will come. I hope so. Till then - riyaz!

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