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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: slumdog

C grade award like star screen is another wanna be Filmfare award. Mika hasnt won award but I wont be surprised if he win award. Himmesh winning award has proved that singer like Mika can also win award. Yeah award is also acheivement for winning award does not make anyone great singer,



Or maybe Himesh is a great singer like all the others that won an award. On 3-4 levels higher than Mika. And Mika can never win playback singer of the year like Himesh. Sorry, it's not even comparable.


The day Mika wins playback singer of the year, I will admit you were right. But it will never happened, and more importantly, has never happened.


Himesh is a great singer, thats why he won the award. He deserved it. Like all the others that won it, which include:


2009: Sukhdwiner Singh
2008: Shaan
2007: Shaan
2006: Himesh
2005: Kunal
2004: Sonu
2003: Sonu

etc.

If you think Himesh is hte ONLY one who didn't deserve it, then you are clearly biased and a hater.


Once again, all the winners are elite singers and deserved the award.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Problem of Himesh is that he his himself getting his image tarnished as a person by acting in these reality shows for earning money and general public does not know that these reality shows are all scripted.

It is high time that Himesh realises this and makes his script good in these reality shows.
You may hate him but he is talented cannot be denied.
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Less than eight years ago, a teenage girl impressed Sanjay Leela Bhansali so much that he made her the voice of Paro in Devdas. In 2009, she straddles the top stratum alone, with close contenders but no equals. Whenever that rare high-calibre song is created today, Shreya Ghoshal is the first choice. Here's the Prima Donna of playback in conversation with Screen. Excerpts

For many years, two or three singers shared the top slot in female playback. Now there seems be only you. How does that feel?

I don't think that's true, but yes, songs are being made specifically and specially with me in mind. From time to time there is always a change in the way music is made and used, depending upon the kind of films coming out too. So I am somehow associated with the more melodious or soft kind of songs that require gaayaki.

What is your take on music today and which way do you think the winds are blowing?
I do not think that there is one genre of music anymore. There are lots of different films being made - interesting ones and some intellectual ones along with the mainstream kind. A lot of both kinds of films need music to support the specific story, and according to me, that means good music. For example, I think that Dev D had pathbreaking music.

But it suffered because the album seemed like a variegated compilation of songs. There was no thematic thread and no visual connect with a situation, which is increasingly being seen.
Yes, we are using songs more in the Western way and this does shorten the life-span of a song. So that proves what I am saying, that two parallel schools are running simultaneously in the way music is being used today in Hindi cinema.

What have you to say about the fact that the proper, true-blue playback singers' ratio of songs has come down, and that anybody and everybody sings for Hindi films today?
I think that we proper playback singers have always been there in the best of songs. Yes, there is a lot of experimentation going on with things like voice, tones and singing and some of these voices are doing good work. Luck plays a huge role in a singer's career and so does the quality and likeability of his or her voice and singing style. The good people among such talents need to come in too. But the trend is that people love every new voice, and I am amused when someone like Atif Aslam gets so much work. My own brother likes him but I cannot understand why and how. I suppose it has to do with some exotic new tenor, but for me there is no substitute for proper singing. And please do not misunderstand me - I have nothing against any nationality. Adnan Sami, for example, adds something to every song he sings and also is a very talented composer.

This phenomenon, luckily, is more among male singers, where even most of the music directors are singing.
True, but what a singer can add to a song a music director may not be able to match, despite the song being his creation. But it's not as if Sunidhi Chauhan and I and all of us are all that lucky - we have very little songs to sing now, compared to the male singers! Tum Mileand Rocket Singh are examples where there is no female song at all!

What about the change in equation - first ranks the sound, hooks and grooves, then the novel voice and lastly the lyrical value and compositional calibre, when good music always has exactly opposite priorities?
I don't think that good lyrics will ever go out of fashion. Yes, some people have this problem, but there are others who get around even this obstacle in clever ways. Like Vishal Bhardwaj adopts today's trends in his own unique way and it sounds great - the music has calibre and is accepted. We have to understand here that a lot of the old songs were too loud and overdressed. The trend today is to keep sound arrangements sparse and clean, unless a huge sound is really needed for a song. A classic example of this is Himesh Reshammiyaji's Radio.Today's major music directors have brought in this really refreshing change. The right dressing for a song is important.
Having said that, I agree that today's musical requirements are as much based on fixed ideas as in olden times - they want two songs for the pubs, one romantic track, one Punjabi and one hip-hop number, because that's what works.

But does it? The most-promoted single or at best one more song works. Aren't physical sales down because there is no album that has uniformly good songs? And they blame poor sales on piracy and digital downloads.
I completely agree. They have this wrong conception that a single 'hit' track will make an album work. But even the audience today really has no time to analyse a song and listen to it with rapt attention and eyes closed! We are in a really bad situation where some great songs go waste, so the joy of getting and singing such songs is diluted. For every Teri ore that works in Singh Is Kinng there are songs like Dil leke dard-e-dil (Wanted) and Tumne socha (Main Aur Mrs Khanna) that are sidelined, and for every Zooby dooby (3 Idiots) we have the beautiful Kyon, which I think was the best song in Kambakkht Ishq that was not promoted the way Om mangalam was! I have now got some good songs coming up in Dulha Mil Gaya and Chance Pe Dance. And Veer has really good music. Let's see...

Would you agree that your songs in Radio are among your best in recent times?
Completely - it is one of the most frequently-played CDs in my home for a good while, and not because four songs are sung by me. Himeshji is amazing. The clean sound and interesting lyrics - even if they are not uber-cool - keep you hooked. I also do not agree with those who say that Himeshji is a non-singer. Shaam ho chali hai was a challenge for me as I have never sung so low in my career - it was challenging to sing in kharaj here. The contrast he has managed between my portions in Teri meri dosti ka aasmaan and his high-pitched segments is awesome.

He even gave you the superb Om namah Shivay in Banaras.
True again - and there is always a demand for that song in every show I do - it's one of the very few devotional songs I have ever sung. The great thing about Himeshji is that the voice is prioritised in his songs, not the orchestration. Similarly Shantanu Moitra also likes to highlight the voice and I love his music for 3 Idiots. And though I like my song Zooby dooby my favourite is Behti hawa sa tha woh.

Three names that have nurtured you a lot are hardly active today - your first composer Ismail Darbar, Anu Malik and M.M.Kreem. Don't you miss them?

Of course I do. Some of my best songs came from Anuji. Ismailji also gave me wonderful songs aftre Devdas. And M.M.Kreem is someone I have really missed, especially his music. He was such an intelligent man who has given so many touching songs. I am very happy that besides Pritamda's Yeh ishq haaye for Jab We Met, I have won my other National awards for Kreemsaab's Dheere jalna in Paheli and Ismailji's Bairi piya for Devdas.

All these have been for Hindi films, though you sing so much in regional cinema too.
Yes, I have sung in Malayalam, Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, Marathi, Bhojpuri and others. In Bengali, my mother-tongue, I have been singing regularly, and there has been a surge of musicals there though the Hindi film industry has been going through a low phase. My film Antaheen's music album had an unplugged sound that went against the trend and was more of an album. It was top of the charts for 27 weeks. The music is by Jeet Ganguly, who is doing a fantastic job.

He also gave you the lovely Jhilmil in the Hindi Cheenti Cheenti Bang Bang last year.
Oh, you remember that song? It was beautiful, a duet with Shaan.

That reminds me - somehow, Shaan and you seem to be getting the cream of melodious duets, usually together, but sometimes separately!
Yes, we have realised and discussed this!

Finally, what is the difference between Shreya Ghoshal and her Devdas, Jism and Saaya days and the Shreya of today?
Well, as a singer I have definitely grown. My voice has changed from the girlish tenor of those days and I have acquired some knowledge and experience and that makes me enjoy my work more. I am now able to give some inputs to a song, and this helps new composers especially while also giving me immense pleasure in contributing to my song. I can say this much with confidence - that I now have a sound of my own.
Link: http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/features/2009/12/19/5896/index.html

A R Rahman wanted Himesh ji to sing a song for him-which HR denied the request,

SHANKAR says recently , it is a big honor to compete against HR as HR is a hit composer and singer with so many hits on MKMM during their match.

SHAAN says, HR's music and songs are so popular that his kidss and himself too plays his music/songs often during an interview regarding Himeshji for his interview with in KOFEE WITH KARAN.

SHAAN also last week sang HR's song MANN KA RADIO on MKMM as hit song of 2009.

SHREYA, A TO FEMALE SINGER says HR'S WORK IN SINGING AND MUSIC is amazing .

First indian singer ever to perform not at small arenas or big hall but world international game stadium in London's WEMBLEY and AMSTERDAM's HEINEKEN infront of 35 thousand packed staduim full crowd who pais hundreds of dollars to feel his music and songs.

call it nasal or anything, sang first song ASHIQ BANAYA APNE and boom, gets best play back singer award just few months after that.


This proves why HR hater are wrong and not living up to reality and facts.


shreya and shaan or rahman or shankar fans should know what they have to say about HR's musical and singing talent.



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Posted: 15 years ago
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Whatever people might say but Himesh is a very good composer. One of the very few who has never been charged with being "Inspired" from foreign music. The problem with him is when he started to sing, he went overboard with it. Everywhere it was Himesh and that started the problem, he is good singer but his voice and singing is limited to certain type of songs, so in order to suite his voice, most of his music became stagnent too.
I have one confusion with the interview. By old times or old songs what is Shreya refering to? Is it the old composers, the likes of Naushad, SD, RD, Salil Chawdhury, Roshan etc? or a bit older like Nadeem Sravan, Anu Malik, Ram Lakshman etc?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: kaushikbasu

Whatever people might say but Himesh is a very good composer. One of the very few who has never been charged with being "Inspired" from foreign music. The problem with him is when he started to sing, he went overboard with it. Everywhere it was Himesh and that started the problem, he is good singer but his voice and singing is limited to certain type of songs, so in order to suite his voice, most of his music became stagnent too.

I have one confusion with the interview. By old times or old songs whatis Shreya refering to? Isit theold composers, thelikes of Naushad, SD, RD, Salil Chawdhury, Roshan etc? or a bit older like Nadeem Sravan, Anu Malik, RamLakshman etc?



Well said dude. Himesh is no doubt a excellent composer. Its his outrageous way of speaking that harms his character. The sole reason for his big hater club.

But I again don't agree with that award criteria. Aamir Khan got nominated for 'Aati Kya Khandala' in 1999. The same year Sonu Nigam sang one of the most difficult song of his career in 'Satrangi Re'. Now please don't tell me Aamir Khan is a better singer than Sonu Nigam. Atal Bihari Vajpayee won the Star Screen for the best lyricist for the movie 'Nayi Disha'. How can one justify that? How many people even know about this movie? 😆 The channels do this all for the sake of publicity. If any artist is talented he will always be recognized by his/her work and not by the number of awards. Did Shreya anywhere in her interview mentioned that Himesh ji is great because he wins awards. She appreciated his work.
And why to consider only filmfare, star screen and National awards. There are apsara awards, sansui viewer's choice award, golden indian awards. If all these have a different winner then in few years we will have industry full of legends. 🤢
Edited by brahmabul - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Thanks nice post. Shreya's voice is like a fresh stream to water running down the deserts.
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Would you agree that your songs in Radio are among your best in recent times?
Completely - it is one of the most frequently-played CDs in my home for a good while, and not because four songs are sung by me. Himeshji is amazing. The clean sound and interesting lyrics - even if they are not uber-cool - keep you hooked. I also do not agree with those who say that Himeshji is a non-singer. Shaam ho chali hai was a challenge for me as I have never sung so low in my career - it was challenging to sing in kharaj here. The contrast he has managed between my portions in Teri meri dosti ka aasmaan and his high-pitched segments is awesome.

He even gave you the superb Om namah Shivay in Banaras.
True again - and there is always a demand for that song in every show I do - it's one of the very few devotional songs I have ever sung. The great thing about Himeshji is that the voice is prioritised in his songs, not the orchestration. Similarly Shantanu Moitra also likes to highlight the voice and I love his music for 3 Idiots. And though I like my song Zooby dooby my favourite is Behti hawa sa tha woh.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: slumdog

Himmesh is a great singer coz he won AWARDS.....Any singer who didnt get awards are not good singer. KK is not a good singer..he hasnt won any award yet. So what his songs are super hit but he hasnt won any award. Hence he is not good. The most important criteria to be good singer is award. The more he or she win awards the more great he or she would be grerat singer. One day if Mika win a award for his lame song he would also be considered as great singer. So what he sucks when he sings, afterall award can make anyone great. So the whole things comes down to award. AWARDS AWARDS AWARDS AWARDS



Kyon sunte ho bhaiya... Award jitne se agar acche ban jaate, to saif ali khan bollywood ka no 1 star hota, after all woh Padmshri jit gaya hai..

My dog even gets iiritated when he heard Himesh's songs..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: brahmabul


Well said dude. Himesh is no doubt a excellent composer. Its his outrageous way of speaking that harms his character. The sole reason for his big hater club.

But I again don't agree with that award criteria. Aamir Khan got nominated for 'Aati Kya Khandala' in 1999. The same year Sonu Nigam sang one of the most difficult song of his career in 'Satrangi Re'. Now please don't tell me Aamir Khan is a better singer than Sonu Nigam. Atal Bihari Vajpayee won the Star Screen for the best lyricist for the movie 'Nayi Disha'. How can one justify that? How many people even know about this movie? 😆 The channels do this all for the sake of publicity. If any artist is talented he will always be recognized by his/her work and not by the number of awards. Did Shreya anywhere in her interview mentioned that Himesh ji is great because he wins awards. She appreciated his work.
And why to consider only filmfare, star screen and National awards. There are apsara awards, sansui viewer's choice award, golden indian awards. If all these have a different winner then in few years we will have industry full of legends. 🤢



Once again, when talking about Himesh, I'm not just considering filmfare He won for filmfare, star screen, IIFA, Zee Cine, you name it. He was the universal singer of the year.

And once again, I said this before too, that awards aren't everything and just because you have an award doesn't make you automatically better.

Shreya's opinion holds more value than any of our opinions, and thus just her opinion alone is strong. She doesn't need to support it.

All I'm saying is, you can have your own opinion of Himesh and his singing. Someone can have their own opinion that Mika > Sonu at singing. I don't care in both cases. In both cases, things outside your opinions, things point opposite. Things outside your opinion say Himesh is a great singer, and Sonu >>>>>>>>> Mika.


So really, as of now, without awards or any other support, you are no different than someone thinking Mika > Sonu. That's how "right" you are in a sense. What I'm trying to say he is, you can think Himesh is a bad singer. But overall, the world, has Himesh has one of the best singers. History has Himesh as one of the best singers. These awards stay with you forever. And Himesh forever will be recognized as one of the best for his era. You're opinion is worthless without support.




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Once again, when talking about Himesh, I'm not just considering filmfare He won for filmfare, star screen, IIFA, Zee Cine, you name it. He was the universal singer of the year.

And once again, I said this before too, that awards aren't everything and just because you have an award doesn't make you automatically better.

Shreya's opinion holds more value than any of our opinions, and thus just her opinion alone is strong. She doesn't need to support it.

All I'm saying is, you can have your own opinion of Himesh and his singing. Someone can have their own opinion that Mika > Sonu at singing. I don't care in both cases. In both cases, things outside your opinions, things point opposite. Things outside your opinion say Himesh is a great singer, and Sonu >>>>>>>>> Mika.


So really, as of now, without awards or any other support, you are no different than someone thinking Mika > Sonu. That's how "right" you are in a sense. What I'm trying to say he is, you can think Himesh is a bad singer. But overall, the world, has Himesh has one of the best singers. History has Himesh as one of the best singers. These awards stay with you forever. And Himesh forever will be recognized as one of the best for his era. You're opinion is worthless without support.




YOu r contracdicting your own Logic. On the one hand you said tht awards are not everthing and then you bring singer with the award to prove that singer is elite. Himmesh as a award winner is histor now. Mistake doesnt happen every now and then.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: slumdog

YOu r contracdicting your own Logic. On the one hand you said tht awards are not everthing and then you bring singer with the award to prove that singer is elite. Himmesh as a award winner is histor now. Mistake doesnt happen every now and then.



You're misunderstanding.


1 Award doesn't make you automatically better than someone who has no awards. So in that case awards aren't everything.

But 1 playback singer of the year, especially where you are universally selected, does make you an elite singer. It does put you down in history as one of the best of his era. Awards can do at least that much.

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