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Posted: 13 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: ayesha_80

Ok..this grin seems to be plastered on my face now. What an update, Sona!!! Seriously, u kno how to capture ALL the emotions and make them all flow like a smooth, calm stream. 👏👏👏awww m glad I cld keep you in this daze for a while.. and thts quite a compliment there 😆 I doubt I even understand most emotions.. as inept as I am.. to interpret and portray them in poignant fashion as u suggest.. like I said this was the easy part..😉Loved every bit of the update...it was beautifully narrated!

Devki's nervousness, apprehensions thinking abt Vaibhav's response, her self-reasoning to calm her racing pulse...it was sooo HER. And then her trying to put some sense into Niral's brain...it was all wonderful. yup parts of it I was inspired from Ds monologue with Vs picture.. after she hid the card in his laptop.. and it unfortunately reached Sabina.. but then I took off to preach a bit of my philosophy of life.. the flexibility of convictions when it comes to love and marriage.. Nirali was an apt ex.. to show the stringency.. but then she is in her own loop.. right now m tryin to keep all options open for the track ahead..😉
Loveddd the IMV-Charu convo...brief, to the point, yet conveying everything. I can imagine how diffucult it must be to write abt IMVs...creating his whole aura...and i must say, u're hitting the target there also. Waiting for more of IMV in this SS 😳 In fact I had this idea.. and thanks to your little feedback here.. I am getting more sucked into following it.. thanks.. it will help me.. and also keep it interesting
Coming to the VD part...i'm still in their land 😍 What do i say abt it? It was extremelyyy BEAUTIFUL!! The way u've narrated this scene...really, HATS OFF TO YOU! The confession of changed feelings, of expanded boundaries and entering into the other's domain; sharing the inhibitions; the apprehensivenss; the hope yet willingness to give space...and then finally the acceptance and uniting...it was sooo serene and beautiful. Really, it left me more in awe of this couple...and i sooo wish that we saw THIS in the show.
I am not going to take credit of the context of VD bit here..coz its pretty inspired from the 15th august dream seq I told you to catch up on... in fact I even kept the dialogues the same.. but only took off from there.. and gave it a different turn.. I always wanted tht scene to be a reality even if V did not reciprocate.. just for how strong and prosaic Ds feelings and expression was.. V defo did not value a GEM.. in the show.. but here he will retain his objectivity and mind which made him so attractive to me😆
And the lyrics, the song perfectly complemented it...like u said, surely made Vaibhav's task of conveying his feeling easier.
It was funny coz I tht of that scene where he gets D her mom's ear ring made and tells her I cant express myself and am not good at social skills.. but I tht this wld help you smile.. and I took the cue from there.. how he did some of the most touching things without saying a word.. The VV we loved.. and I am revisiting the old epis.. and funnily enough.. when he proposed S in the beg he does say I dont have the benefit of words and expression.. I am not that..😆 those bits I did not remember much coz I have mostly only seen IMV-D and IMV-CP scenes repetitively..
Brilliant job, Sona. You have a HUGE fan in me (as if i already wasn't 😆). Tc!
dont rag me.. I wld rag Dia with the BJ thing.. now u r trying to be tht.. 😆 no fan light table chair business.. am just glad you are enjoying this journey.. thts satiation enough for me.. btw m think u r done with the other SS already.. will hear your feedback on it laterzzz

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: intruderfast

ahh i read it finally its brilliant 👏sonu , mere shubh comments baad mein agar mera mann kiyaa toh😛😆😆


jyaada bhao mat khaa.. tere aur kools ke mooch mooch session ko revisit karne ka ye mast context hain😆 par koi nahi.. as far as u r liking it.. tere D jaap aur mere V jaap ko miss kar rahi thi.. so I tht of making this part ded to the good old times.. sigh
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Will try n write abt the rest...but HAVE to write abt:
@ Bold: 😲😲 If i'm not wrong here...You making me a part of THAT category?? Gosh, Sonaa...u kno I have a weak heart...then don't blame me if i disappear without any info this time 😉😆
And madam...it was a GENUINE praise...i don't think being a fan is that bad! You kno I was a teacher, lecture..w/e...and it was a part of my duty to appreciate n acknowlege outstanding work...so, chup ker ke maan lo...I'm not very generous when it comes to praising...so, TAKE ME OUTTA THAT CATEGORY RIGHT NOW!!! 😆😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Too good Sonali u made 15 august episode (just saw after reading part III) complete in which D realizes its dream and broke vv's photo. D's thoughts are penned really well and gives a feeling i m watching actual serial.
more i like the way charu's pain is expreseed; her grief that she can't enter in her hubby's inner mind; his thoughts; that partition is killing her every passing day ".. My nights were incomplete without our two minutes together- even if it ended in arguments like it does on most occasions and I voice my anguish by retiring to my half of the room and activating the partition" guess this was not covered that well in serial also
now same complaint which we all had when show was on; more & more of imv 😊😊
also thanks for sending me PM also
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: santok80

Too good Sonali u made 15 august episode (just saw after reading part III) complete in which D realizes its dream and broke vv's photo. D's thoughts are penned really well and gives a feeling i m watching actual serial.

more i like the way charu's pain is expreseed; her grief that she can't enter in her hubby's inner mind; his thoughts; that partition is killing her every passing day ".. My nights were incomplete without our two minutes together- even if it ended in arguments like it does on most occasions and I voice my anguish by retiring to my half of the room and activating the partition" guess this was not covered that well in serial also
now same complaint which we all had when show was on; more & more of imv 😊😊
also thanks for sending me PM also


niceee.. in fact in this part.. only the IMV-Charu bit was a lil tough to write.. the rest came easy😆 I am trying to ease myself writing about IMV.. thts why you are seeing less.. again like i said tht I dont have Mihir's talent to give him such gems.. so I will try to get more of IMV as and when he can fit in.. but in the near future.. lets see how it goes.. I cant say either ways.. as of now.. LOL..

And as for Charu.. thanks.. I just expanded on the pathos in Charu.. the underplayed one.. it was one of the most poignant portrayal in the show.. loved it.. apart from CP.. am glad you are liking it..
Well I added most of u who regularly comment in my PM List.. 😊 coz we all wanted a diff version
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sonali, loved all your posts during the last 2 weeks of MB, particularly the finale. I couldn't get myself to watch the episodes- was waiting to see what the end would be, and I didn't like it, so I'm not going to watch it. For me, MB ended with IMV leaving after Devki/Charu questioned him and he understood nobody wants to understand him, or even Vaibhav's birthday before all the mess started. I've wanted to write what went wrong with the show at the end, it could still be salvaged even with VS uniting, and only now found the time. I told once that IMV is a lot like Gail Wynand, in my perception. In that, he was not unscrupulous, in fact he went to any lengths to get what he wanted. Like Gail, IMV believed he was very powerful and his power would get him his way whatever it may be. And like it was for Gail about love as exception-making, IMV has always excepted Devki from his rules--basically allowing her the run of the house with the boundaries set. Within those boundaries, Devki had probably more freedom than anyone else. The character IMV was born to be great, he was. Due to circumstances early in life, he understood money and power were important and worked for it. He did anything and felled anyone in his way to keep the balance of power on his side. He had the (mis)conception that his weapon was his power, like Gail did.

The end for IMV and consequently, MB should have been the understanding by IMV that his power could not get him the things/people he most loved and wanted. That he was powerless before them, that he had to answer and pay back the very society he used for his climb to power. He is a man of immense intelligence and has the experience of all his years, creating a vast business empire from nothing but his hard work and business acumen. I did not envision him retiring in PJs and putting gajra in Charu's hair and going to Mangrol. Not that Charu doesn't deserve happiness, she deserves everything she got and more. But this sudden change is undeignified. I would have preferred IMV going to jail for getting the bank manager killed, and come back a wiser man to see his children wielding responsibility well and his family and business flourishing. When he would retire and maybe play with the stock market, going back to his beginnings when he climbed on the bench as a rookie and asked if people were smart enough to choose him. That is an end fit for IMV, and for MB. Not IMV telling Devki she was his guru. She's not. She taught him a few things, but she's not anybody's guru. Devki was born with a silver spoon; getting the best oppurtunities and graduating from the best B schools. She never had to look far or long for help everytime she was sinking (though admittedly, IMV sunk the ship each time, he also provided her a lifevest LOL!). It's easy for Devki to say love is everything; love or whatever one chooses is everything when one has everything. Not when one has to live with what he makes of himself. Though it's also an intrinsic part of her spirit, her idealism is stupid and narrow even for an idealist. Believe me, I'm an idealist. I was spouting about love being everything when my mom and dad were taking care of everything for me, and all I had to do was nothing. Now, I know love's a lot of things, but not everything. And money and values are certainly not nothings; they are more important than love in the long run. Gail Wynand lost in the end, but he understood why he lost and also redeemed himself in his own eyes. He didn't care about the world, he only wanted to be true to his self. He still had dignity in loss; and the love and respect of the man he loved most, though he denied it to himself. IMV is Gail Wynand, and he deserves a similar end in my opinion.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam

Sonali, loved all your posts during the last 2 weeks of MB, particularly the finale. I couldn't get myself to watch the episodes- was waiting to see what the end would be, and I didn't like it, so I'm not going to watch it. For me, MB ended with IMV leaving after Devki/Charu questioned him and he understood nobody wants to understand him, or even Vaibhav's birthday before all the mess started. I've wanted to write what went wrong with the show at the end, it could still be salvaged even with VS uniting, and only now found the time. I told once that IMV is a lot like Gail Wynand, in my perception. In that, he was not unscrupulous, in fact he went to any lengths to get what he wanted. Like Gail, IMV believed he was very powerful and his power would get him his way whatever it may be. And like it was for Gail about love as exception-making, IMV has always excepted Devki from his rules--basically allowing her the run of the house with the boundaries set. Within those boundaries, Devki had probably more freedom than anyone else. The character IMV was born to be great, he was. Due to circumstances early in life, he understood money and power were important and worked for it. He did anything and felled anyone in his way to keep the balance of power on his side. He had the (mis)conception that his weapon was his power, like Gail did.

The end for IMV and consequently, MB should have been the understanding by IMV that his power could not get him the things/people he most loved and wanted. That he was powerless before them, that he had to answer and pay back the very society he used for his climb to power. He is a man of immense intelligence and has the experience of all his years, creating a vast business empire from nothing but his hard work and business acumen. I did not envision him retiring in PJs and putting gajra in Charu's hair and going to Mangrol. Not that Charu doesn't deserve happiness, she deserves everything she got and more. But this sudden change is undeignified. I would have preferred IMV going to jail for getting the bank manager killed, and come back a wiser man to see his children wielding responsibility well and his family and business flourishing. When he would retire and maybe play with the stock market, going back to his beginnings when he climbed on the bench as a rookie and asked if people were smart enough to choose him. That is an end fit for IMV, and for MB. Not IMV telling Devki she was his guru. She's not. She taught him a few things, but she's not anybody's guru. Devki was born with a silver spoon; getting the best oppurtunities and graduating from the best B schools. She never had to look far or long for help everytime she was sinking (though admittedly, IMV sunk the ship each time, he also provided her a lifevest LOL!). It's easy for Devki to say love is everything; love or whatever one chooses is everything when one has everything. Not when one has to live with what he makes of himself. Though it's also an intrinsic part of her spirit, her idealism is stupid and narrow even for an idealist. Believe me, I'm an idealist. I was spouting about love being everything when my mom and dad were taking care of everything for me, and all I had to do was nothing. Now, I know love's a lot of things, but not everything. And money and values are certainly not nothings; they are more important than love in the long run. Gail Wynand lost in the end, but he understood why he lost and also redeemed himself in his own eyes. He didn't care about the world, he only wanted to be true to his self. He still had dignity in loss; and the love and respect of the man he loved most, though he denied it to himself. IMV is Gail Wynand, and he deserves a similar end in my opinion.


WELL PUT and AGREED totally.. the DIGNITY that IMV stood for.. through the LIFE of his character.. was stripped off in his DEATH.. yes the soul and core of this show met with the most step motherly treatment in the end.. for whatever reasons.. and you TOTALLY put my understanding and reading of Devki's legit contribution to IMVs reconciliation as it should have been.. I firmly believe experience is a MENTOR.. so though Devki's innocence had the power.. I would not call her the path finder.. as a more apt finale.. it had to be IMV's reconciliation.. through his OWN soul searching.. and D in my opinion should have been shown as the mere cause for IMV to WANT to do it.. which they sorta showed in the end.. with her instilling the dialog he had with himself.. but the thing was it was oversimplified for common understanding.. like suddenly the makers believe the IQ of the ppl who did watch the show was below par..😆 and D and her overblown idealism was glorified.. and her cause the ROMANTICISM btw VS was too.. MB in its last epi.. just deviated from its own established sensibility.. by completely shunning realism.. something that had been given a respectable standing through out the course of the show thro IMV.. well Gail got the dignity due to Ayn Rand's fervor towards Pragmatism.. and unabashed understanding of it.. amidst the glorification of objectivism that she eventually followed..

at the end of the day.. I feel happy we got to witness a Gail like character in IMV.. but am saddened that he was completely disrespected.. even critiques of IMV through out the show could not accept the treatment given to him.. sigh.. and hence my effort at coming at an alternative story.. and trust me.. your insights.. have really helped..😃.. thanks a ton for posting this.. was just telling a friend how much I have been missing the discussions at the mb forum.. you just re-created bits of it.. right away
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Posted: 13 years ago
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WELL PUT and AGREED totally.. the DIGNITY that IMV stood for.. through the LIFE of his character.. was stripped off in his DEATH.. yes the soul and core of this show met with the most step motherly treatment in the end.. for whatever reasons.. and you TOTALLY put my understanding and reading of Devki's legit contribution to IMVs reconciliation as it should have been.. I firmly believe experience is a MENTOR.. so though Devki's innocence had the power.. I would not call her the path finder.. as a more apt finale.. it had to be IMV's reconciliation.. through his OWN soul searching.. and D in my opinion should have been shown as the mere cause for IMV to WANT to do it.. which they sorta showed in the end.. with her instilling the dialog he had with himself.. but the thing was it was oversimplified for common understanding.. like suddenly the makers believe the IQ of the ppl who did watch the show was below par..😆 and D and her overblown idealism was glorified.. and her cause the ROMANTICISM btw VS was too.. MB in its last epi.. just deviated from its own established sensibility.. by completely shunning realism.. something that had been given a respectable standing through out the course of the show thro IMV.. well Gail got the dignity due to Ayn Rand's fervor towards Pragmatism.. and unabashed understanding of it.. amidst the glorification of objectivism that she eventually followed..

at the end of the day.. I feel happy we got to witness a Gail like character in IMV.. but am saddened that he was completely disrespected.. even critiques of IMV through out the show could not accept the treatment given to him.. sigh.. and hence my effort at coming at an alternative story.. and trust me.. your insights.. have really helped..😃.. thanks a ton for posting this.. was just telling a friend how much I have been missing the discussions at the mb forum.. you just re-created bits of it.. right away



Sonali, I'm so sorry I actually posted before reading the whole thread. I had been meaning to post about the finale for someitme, so wanted to get that done before any more reading. I just read all of your SS so far, and it's beautiful. You write beautifully, and the characters are much more original than they were when MB ended. I just realised when I read this how much I used to like Vaibhav. Soon after the birthday incident, I stopped caring and the fact that he ended up the Sabina didn't mean anything. This Vaibhav is "the Vaibhav". How the heck did the makers change Vaibhav so drastically that they couldn't find a way to redeem him even at the end? Waiting to read the rest of your SS. Do PM me when you're update.

Ayn Rand was true to the characters she created, to the end. If all the makers were true to the characters they create, the industry would be of a different standard altogether. Still, I hoped MB would be given the right end. In fact, when the bank manager topic came up at the very end, I thought IMV would face trial and go to jail. I would have preferred that to what actually happened. I'm glad I got to see MB too. It was a great show for most of the time it aired. And I love IMV, like I love Gail. He's probably my favorite character of all time. I love Roark too, but Roark doesn't need anyone's love. He's self sufficient. I love Gail though, and IMV 😊 Glad to be of any help, though I'm sure you already have atleast a rough idea of where to take it. As long as you dont lose sight of your characters, you're good. And so far, it seems that MB will finally get the end it deserves with your SS.👍🏼
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam



Sonali, I'm so sorry I actually posted before reading the whole thread. I had been meaning to post about the finale for someitme, so wanted to get that done before any more reading. I just read all of your SS so far, and it's beautiful. You write beautifully, and the characters are much more original than they were when MB ended. I just realised when I read this how much I used to like Vaibhav. Soon after the birthday incident, I stopped caring and the fact that he ended up the Sabina didn't mean anything. This Vaibhav is "the Vaibhav". How the heck did the makers change Vaibhav so drastically that they couldn't find a way to redeem him even at the end? Waiting to read the rest of your SS. Do PM me when you're update.

Ayn Rand was true to the characters she created, to the end. If all the makers were true to the characters they create, the industry would be of a different standard altogether. Still, I hoped MB would be given the right end. In fact, when the bank manager topic came up at the very end, I thought IMV would face trial and go to jail. I would have preferred that to what actually happened. I'm glad I got to see MB too. It was a great show for most of the time it aired. And I love IMV, like I love Gail. He's probably my favorite character of all time. I love Roark too, but Roark doesn't need anyone's love. He's self sufficient. I love Gail though, and IMV 😊 Glad to be of any help, though I'm sure you already have atleast a rough idea of where to take it. As long as you dont lose sight of your characters, you're good. And so far, it seems that MB will finally get the end it deserves with your SS.👍🏼


Sowmya... I am really glad you like it so far.. and more so coz I could rechristen the VV.. we loved.. that was one major disappointment for me.. V showed so much potential to have a role in helping D through the awareness she was bound to get along the way.. sad he was duped and It costed in Devki being shown as some super human with immense inner strength to deal with everything.. without shrugging an inch... tht was rather unreal.. so I decided to write it the way I wanted to see all of it happen..

Its intriguing.. 2 of the characters in fiction that I have sworn to love are Roark and Gail for different reasons.. but I can see when you say Roark is self-sufficient.. yes I can't ask for anything more than being able to witness a IMV.. the little shadows of him as far as we were lucky to see.. it would have been great had they given him a legit and deserving closure.. but alas.. something never happen.. i have made peace with it.. but told myself I owe it to the character.. and would give him a well rounded closure in this SS.. Will PM you as and when I update.. hoping you enjoy it..
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Sowmya... I am really glad you like it so far.. and more so coz I could rechristen the VV.. we loved.. that was one major disappointment for me.. V showed so much potential to have a role in helping D through the awareness she was bound to get along the way.. sad he was duped and It costed in Devki being shown as some super human with immense inner strength to deal with everything.. without shrugging an inch... tht was rather unreal.. so I decided to write it the way I wanted to see all of it happen..

Its intriguing.. 2 of the characters in fiction that I have sworn to love are Roark and Gail for different reasons.. but I can see when you say Roark is self-sufficient.. yes I can't ask for anything more than being able to witness a IMV.. the little shadows of him as far as we were lucky to see.. it would have been great had they given him a legit and deserving closure.. but alas.. something never happen.. i have made peace with it.. but told myself I owe it to the character.. and would give him a well rounded closure in this SS.. Will PM you as and when I update.. hoping you enjoy it..



Yeah, VV went wrong very far from his creation very fast. And because of that, Devki went wrong too. It just became too unreal at the end; this was the show that had the audacity to show a character like IMV in a show like MB. Everything else would be fine, except VV's and consequently Devki's characters ending up the way they did; and even more importantly, IMV's character sticking it until the very end when finally it succumbed as well. I would have made peace with the show if IMV got his deserved end, I really didn't care about the other characters by that time. It wasn't meant to be 😭

Roark and Gail are the 2 characters I have sworn to love as well. None of even Ayn Rand's other characters have come close to Roark or Gail. I disliked Atlas Shrugged, but love Fountainhead unabashedly. Roark and Gail are fundamentally the same, but come across very differently. It's easy to love Roark, there can't be any other way. Very like Devki when she was first introduced, not so much the one who was shown at the end. It's ironic because Ayn Rand's Roark doesn't need or care for other's love as long as they respect his work and he has Dominique and Gail by his side. He's an open book with a beautiful end, it's a different matter that some people find it difficult to read or don't want to read him. Gail is more difficult to love. It's easy to fear him and even respect him, but difficult to see underneath all those layers for the man he is. He sold his soul to get what he assumed was power, and it was trampled. But he was still virginal, he had honor in dishonor. He crushed everything in his way because he didn't believe anyone was worthy of his love; when he found someone who did, he lost his all in trying to protect that love. My heart went out to him in the end, the man who had closed all doors to himself, but who could not be blissful in ignorance and had to suffer knowing all. Do you see the connection between Gail and IMV? I think I was going off tangent there writing about my favorite characters, sorry about that 😳 I'm looking forward to what you do with MB and especially IMV. Thanks for working on the SS for all of us😊

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