A Follow-up to Mohit as Devdas Thread - Page 8

Originally posted by: Sonya1986

To utfracks:

Okay, if I had been there in your thread, I'd have condemned the people who had criticized your post for no good reason, and there's no doubt to that. As for your saying that it is a two-way thing, it shouldn't be. If someone's misbehaving,it doesn't give you the license to retaliate in the same manner, because you need to prove that you're different. The very least we could do is consider them 'non-existent.' At the most (my usual tactic if I can't stand it - see I'm giving away my secret), mock them in a subtle way.

dear i think your this post should be for sg fans at this time ...........because when some mayurians speak.........and i fight is created ........and if i try to stop it........the first answer i always got from sg fans is they first bashed our favorites and now we will bash........you cant stop us..........

and its really difficult even to express your opinion in the sg threads............if i would have expressed my opinion........i will be termed as a anti sajan fan for sure........therefore i try to keep my opinions on mayur only...........because i am their fan so i can criticism is allowed there ...........dear you yourself tell me pbm was so bad........really mayur crossed the limits................they made mjht cheap.........and sajan spending a night together was pure love.......for the same fans .......can you belive this..........and i can prove you dear the persons who are telling today you are right and thank god we are sg fans are the fans who insulted mayur a lot in pbm thread and called sajan one night spend pure love , roshini se pure love........that"s what is hypocrisy dear........at least mayurians dint go to this extent..........roshni se was not bashed entering the threads..........a thread was made telling the opinions were changed in which our mayur was again badly bashed,..........you cant even imagine which bad words were used...........i cant even tell you............

and even today if i went to a sg thread and say that what's going on.......gunjan blamed sammy for nupsi death......that was wrong..........they will come up with 100 reasons telling me . she did for her sister........her sis was important.......ok i i agree to them.....so now what ........dont she love nupur now.........is her loved killed that she is staying witg her di murderer.......thats what they were telling me when i called that its senseless blaming sammy........say the story is going nowhere .....though i would never use any wrong words but i very well know how badly i will be bashed there............i have been.....and dear this is the thing i called hypocrisy.........bas koi kuch keh na de......at least if anything is wrong about mayur.......we all accept the fact it was wrong.........do you want examples thread bashed by sg fans...........it seems you dint saw any..................should i proceed.........in giving you,.........do tell me................

moreover before may..........each and every post made by mayurians was well spoiled dear..........and i know that well............

and let me give you recent example the thread telling that cvs were humble ..........anyone in the world can know how much we all suffered and how humble were cvs putting wrong things about rati in the article.......but yup no one cares about others jaan......the post was hurting , breaking the heart of mayurians....and it was supported ......hurts more.........and their reaction was justified there.........for the sake of some actors.......people actually hurt fans here.........which is so so wrong.....

moreover the above statements i say dont lies for some fans like dolly , sana , simi , aahana , pari , ........because they all stood by what they say.........but not all.are like them.............same is with the mayur fans .........only some try to do the right thing..........no one is less.........
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interesting take sonya .. u do have the guts to put forward ur views in the most logical manner, although at times u are a bit rude, no doubt..ur last para made me wince too .. but thats none of my concern again, since I do not much care for that member ..

coming to ur topic .. well, like caro, rachna n divya have already expressed, there used to be a time long long ago when MN and SG fans used to get along like a house on fire .. when we used to appreciate and critisize each other's couple and/or characters widout being offended .. n believ me or not, I have been a part of it..so I kno m not making up stories..it jus saddens me to think of those days n to the days now n what has happ to the ability to 'converse' wit ppl? its long gone..n I kno it wud NEVER return .. m usually not a pessimist to this extent..but in this case, I m left wit no other choice .. ther hav been tons of reasons n examples n occasions when both the fans have been personally offended ..n nothing is more imp than ur own self respect ..n thats why I m so sure those conditions wud never return now ..

I dont even kno if thers a point of this thread at all too.. because even here, ppl wud b hell bent on proving their own point rather than thinking abt the matter ( me included ) .. but then we shud atleast make an attempt to do so ..

so, coming to critisizing MoNaya .. well, I dont think I have to give my criticisim to a bunch of fans to are hell bent on anyways critisizing n bashing MoNaya .. who wudnt even care to appreciate them if they give ONE good scene.. because they either dont care abt it..or because they are too biased abt MN/arti to see tht sometimes, tho not always, MoNaya can be good at expressions too .. I hav repeatedly expressed in many posts tht mohit was raw in the beginning..he still is..he has a long long way to go .. but ther is nothing to deny in my heart tht he has improved.. n thers NO DOUBT abt it .. neither of MoNaya is perfect at expressions..but jus because we dont express it out loud as often as the other group does, its taken as tho we are not aware of their shortcomings..

when MoNaya came as hosts in ZND ..I was one of the few who said they really need sum more time to set into the environment..both seemed stiff n needed a lot of practise ..but I did say tht widout making it sound like I m heavily criticising them..because thats jus how I do .. for me, ther isnt jus one possibility..ther are many reasons to tht possibility ..



as for criticising SG .. I do rem loads of times when I m thoroughly frustrated by gunjan and/or sam likewise ..but jus because I dont create a huge ruckus on the forum abt it..open topic n bash him/her left right centre..creating spoofs n jokes abt it, does NOT mean that I m blindly worshipping gunjan or samrat .. thr hav been tons of occasions when gunjan has disappointed me .. starting from the sheena phase when she was show nothing but a crying baby .. to the recent neil track, at the end of which she reacted in the most unforgivable manner for me ( and NO< m not talking abt zindagi do pal ki.. m talking of before when she left the movie half dun..n didnt give a damn abt neil's feelings for her, hence acting thoroughly selfish ) .. n the one fri epi of S2...wher it was unimaginable n I had almost given up on the show .. but I wud share this wit my close friends..who understand my love for gunjan ..n why I m saying what I m saying .. n not wit a bunch of gunjan haters who anyways find reasons to hate her ..

then again, I was one of the few SGians ..who did not like tht khabar nahi flying bits on samrat n laughed at mohit's expressions too .. also the flying kiss n PDA bits b/w SG that I didnt like at all .. but I expressed my opinions abt it once..n let go of it..jus because I didnt express my opinion time n again ..n exploited the limit of my imagination n vocab n creating mad gigs n spoofs ..it gave an impression tht I worshipped them ..

what is the compulsion that u hav to criticise openly? jus to prove that u are not a blind worshipper of the couple? then I m sorry..let ppl think what they want to think..

coming to the PBM sequence .. n I m sure ther are loads of indirect fingers pointing at me .. because I was one of the many SGians who had laughed at tht thread anu had once created .. criticising arti's expressions .. well, for me, n this is STRICTLY my opinion..my objection wasnt to the intimacy as such..but the way it was shown n potrayed by arti n also to sum extent MN too.. frankly speaking given the situation they wer in..it was the least I expected from them ..given the situation I wud have expected them to do something else rather than getting intimate .. n my complete revulsion to tht scene was mainly cuz of the expressions too ( yes, thats again strictly my opinion .. ) also I understand I may hav hurt many fans' hearts in the process ..cuz I realised how it felt when ppl did the same for roshni se .. so I m sorry for that ( although I kno its too late for it ) ..

coming to bashing MN/arti .. I think I havent dun that in ages ..( m not denying I hav never done it ) n I kno the difference b/w actors n characters .. so even if I do not like a particular character..I wud never take it on the actor .. n vice versa .. which, unfortunately, many here do! ( I m not pinpointing groups .. these species exist on both sides )

if thers an MN scene which I hav loved...even my dislike for an actor wudnt stop me from upholding tht scene .. because I hav really connected to tht one scene..n I wud made no qualms to admit it..although wit a slight fear of being misinterpreted cuz of being an SG fan ..

like for example, yest, seeing mayank's joy n arjun's expressions on hearing tht 'aap ki biwi zinda hain..' I did feel good too .. because I realised what hell tht guy must hav gone thru three yrs..n siddenly realising tht his wife is alive.. I cudnt imagine the joy n hope tht he felt at tht moment..n arjun expressed it amazing ..

I was one of the few SGians who had thought really hard on mayank's realisation song duing the PD times..n actively participated in tht poll along wit others .. those wer the times, when I feel I was in a completely different environment n world than what it is, today ..

if ther is some MN track/scene that I hav liked..then I wudnt hold myself from expressing it out loud .. because I cant stand injustice, even if its from my own side ..

and no, I do NOT blame PD for creating a rift b/w SG n MN fans .. why bring in a third person..its OUR fault .. if our understanding b/w each other was strong enuf..no third person shud b able to destroy it by her mere antics .. however true or false they might be .. its we and only we who are responsible for creating a rift b/w ourselves n nobody else .. we were responsible for being friends once upon a time..n we are responsible for not being them now .. thers no question of sumbody else ..

Originally posted by: utfracks

Sonya, we've tried to explain the same very thing to every person present here, yet, if you're a fan of one couple, you have NO right to comment about the other couple. Whatever, I don't take responsibility to change their thinking, cause I know it's a lost cause.

yup this is thing.........and if you enter ...........you will be bashed.........moreover one more awesome thing is there.........if there is a fight and you support the right person..........sometimes i do support sg fans when they are right..........we are actually told by some fellow mayurians that we are a sajan fan actually..........we are not a mayurian..........can you imagine..............this has happened at least two three times with me...........

some understand me well but some dont...........
and one more interesting fact.........dear the minority have made groups here..........they all say yes to a thing without thinking what they actually want...........i am never scared of speaking......and i do come with my views....because i know mayurians mainly understand me ....but the fact that how i am misunderstiood hurts me.........broke me.........me only 17........i cant take much rude comments........me very emotional one........my main problem........stopping me to end this line. b/w sg and mn fans...............


but i should tell you let be fights here............at least if we took only sg fans and only mayur fans.........we share a great friendship........a great one.........and thats the reason i am still on forum........

Wow!! You have guts!! 😉 😆 I somewhat agree with your post!! I don't know about the mods but most of the members on this forum are certainly biased!! It's like a sick game to them!! I'm tired of it!! The worst part was that they laughed about it as if it was some joke!! What was so funny about it??!! Can't Mohit be particularly good in a scene??!! Or better than someone else??!! Afterall, it was someone's opinion!! Can't someone's opinion matter or respected??!! Why ridicule them??!! If you disagree, then kindly disagree!! No need to laugh about it!! It feels like your laughing at the actor himself!! That's very rude!! 😔 Whatever, I just hope these people wake up from their playground playing days!! And mods there is no need to be cautious over crazy fans!! You guys do what you have to do!! 😉


Shreya

First of all when i entered.........this line b/w mn and sg was not there.....it was really a nice forum........and i feel very nice coming her........but now now........now its a battle zone.......apne kadam phook phook ke rakho .......varna fights shuru , bashing shuru..........whnich i hate.......

fans biased nature towards their favs and hypocrisy made this forum what it is today.........may be people give many justifications for their hypocrisy and what not ............i dont bother.........the thing remain the same.........

one more thing.........i hate fans who innocently try to attack whole group at once ..........and after that say dont quote me.........they are the ones who will never let this fight end...........

i wish for a thing..........yaar lets continue making such kinds of posts..........let us all join our hands to eliminate this line and i am sure we will be able to eliminate this..............i want the environment back in which i entered............😛

you know this is after much time..........i am seeing both mayurians and sajan fans replying to a post.........a discussion is going on.........oh i want this to remain forever...............😃

@Mads-Okay, so the PBM sequence was strictly your opinion, and even at the time, I had told you I respect your opinion. The problem is with those certain fans who are so blinded by their favs, that they actually go to the extent of bashing real people. I myself have criticized MN so many times, and most of the times I was termed as a basher, yet I pointed out what I felt was right. why do people come to forums? To discuss episodes, with people of the same interests. Isn't that why a forum is there in the first place? And to those who like to express their views openly, need not necessarily be over doing it. Sometimes, it's genuine, yet people fail to understand that.

Originally posted by: utfracks

@Mads-Okay, so the PBM sequence was strictly your opinion, and even at the time, I had told you I respect your opinion. The problem is with those certain fans who are so blinded by their favs, that they actually go to the extent of bashing real people. I myself have criticized MN so many times, and most of the times I was termed as a basher, yet I pointed out what I felt was right. why do people come to forums? To discuss episodes, with people of the same interests. Isn't that why a forum is there in the first place? And to those who like to express their views openly, need not necessarily be over doing it. Sometimes, it's genuine, yet people fail to understand that.

rachna you know.......you said it........
i completely agree with you........forum is not just for appreciation..........now what we see is that only.......ya to sajan ke mahaan appreciation threads ya mayur ke...........there is nothing to discuss.....nothing........

Originally posted by: utfracks

@Mads-Okay, so the PBM sequence was strictly your opinion, and even at the time, I had told you I respect your opinion. The problem is with those certain fans who are so blinded by their favs, that they actually go to the extent of bashing real people. I myself have criticized MN so many times, and most of the times I was termed as a basher, yet I pointed out what I felt was right. why do people come to forums? To discuss episodes, with people of the same interests. Isn't that why a forum is there in the first place? And to those who like to express their views openly, need not necessarily be over doing it. Sometimes, it's genuine, yet people fail to understand that.

@ bold : ah..this is EXACTLY wher v probably differ rachna .. its not always wit ppl of the same interests.. ther may be ppl who do NOT hav the same interest as urs .. I kno many..sum of them I dont care abt...sum r really good friends..in one of the CC tht I m a part of, NONE of them watch MJHT anymore..n they dislike SG a lot..but that gives me no reason to not discuss wit them .. stuff which I like, because they do respect my opinion n I respect theirs ( I m not pintpointing..I m jus stating facts ) ..

abt bashing real ppl n actors..please lets not go to that.. I can give u within the next 5 mins..threads wher ppl have bashed MoNaya even since the beginning of S2.. n not jus their acting ( that I can overlook any day ) .. but their individuality n characters.. saying unforgivable things abt them..jus because rati was out of the show? what right do they hav to talk in such a blasphemous manner abt them?? anyways, I wont do tht..because I m over it now..it took a long time for me to do tht .. n I m glad abt it ..

as for ur last two statements .. no, I m not saying that its right/wrong to criticise openly and/or over expressing wrt ur fav actors/characters .. u do what u want to do..I m not stopping u, I dont have the right .. I m jus saying its something I ( and I wud include many other SGians wit me too ) wudnt do ..because its something I dont feel right .. fair enuf right?

@Mads- By same interest, I meant MJHT, and NOT the groups we've formed here. I have so many SG fans as my friends, though we share NOTHING in common, you included, I hope so. And about the MoNaya bashing, I can safely say I wasn't a part of it. Though I might not like them, I do not have a right to comment on them, and I stuck to that. Problem is, you'll find only a few people who stick to their words on this forum atleast.