A Follow-up to Mohit as Devdas Thread

I came to respond to anything interesting on the thread, "Mohit as Devdas Outranks Arjun," but surprisingly, it was closed. Actually not really, because I was told it will be closed.

I have read the rules I was directed to, and this is what I have to say in that respect: I did not emphasize in any way or form that Samrat-Gunjan is better than Mayank-Nupur. Like constitutions of many countries, the second part of the rule is very ambiguous - it could be argued both ways.

Initially I hesitated to make this comment, because I thought it was too early to make this claim. But, now I can say with a good degree of certainty that the moderators I have seen thus far are biased. And I have every reason to believe so. But anyway, I don't feel the need to elaborate on that. Had I felt the need to explain that, I would have written to them directly as indicated in the page of "Rules and Regulations." The primary purpose of this post is to talk to the users, not the moderators.

It appears that a good share of the users on this forum were not introduced to compare and contrast essays in their schools or collages and hence their intolerable attitude. I wish it was just that. Your biased attitude makes it worse. Comparing the responses of the two threads where Samrat was compared to Rahul played by Shah Rukh and Nupur to Kajol, I can safely conclude that on this platform, you're safe as long as you go with the 'majority.' Hence, if I had reversed the recent topic giving Arjun the upperhand, I'd be fine and most probably the topic wouldn't have been closed either. What else could I say to this but grow up. It's truely disappointing specially when the majority of the voters had voted for 20+ age group on a poll held some time ago - now I'm really hoping for the results to be inaccurate.

Despite my liking for Arjun, I was categorized as Samrat-Gunjan fan. Okay, be it so. I have no complains against that. So this goes to my group mates: Congratulations for maintaining your maturity almost always. From the several examples I have seen, I'd like to mention the one I've always found inspiring. When the news of who should die was going around, I had read a Rati fan stating if anyone must die, let it be Gunjan. A surprised Gunjan fan had responded to the post by reminding the person that this is not how Samrat-Gunjan fans must be rewarded for their support of trying to save Nupur's character. Honestly speaking, I wouldn't be able to show that kind of patience. So yes, Mohit and Sanaya need to be told that the duo must be proud of their fan following even if they are not as many. After all, it is the quality that mattters not quantity. This is not to say I'm over-generalizing Mayank-Nupur fans. No doubt, I have met good ones among them too. In fact, I wish I had some of the ones from "Nupur's Return" thread on the recent one. Maybe then we could generate an interesting discussion together.

Anyway, this is also to say that I won't be as active from now unless I have something interesting to share that does not violate the incomprehensible rules of this forum. I must say it is very difficult to come up with a good discussion given the environment here. True that people find topics such as "Yay Rati Di Returns," "Current TRPs," "An actor's wardrobe," etc, extremely interesting and hence we have tons of them, but I don't. Then, we are left with FFs and descriptive posts like those that Aahana makes. Sure it's a pleasure to read them, but there's nothing much to talk about.

If we could manage to create a healthy discussion by comparing and contrasting our likes and dislikes in Arjun and Mohit's acting, we might have added something to enhancing our critical skills in analyzing a scene. But, why do that? We're happy with repeating our standard topics day in and day out, isn't it?

I'm not sorry if some overtly sentimental fan finds the above suggestion offensive, because s/he needs to choose between changing or avoiding anything that is potentially too heavy for him/her to tolerate.

Finally, thanks to all those who have shown support or disagreement in a mature way. I wish we could have more of you. I'm aware that I might be soon banned from this forum with the kind of outspoken attitude I carry, but that's fine, because I have always aspired to become a major writer not a writer for the majority.

By the way Annie (if you're reading this), I didn't get the chance to reply to you on the previous thread. You had mentioned anyone's free to post on this forum. The thing is everyone's free to walk on streets too, but those with proper conduct, etiquettes and courtesy for others don't spit on streets saying it's public property.

OMG Sonya! ur one member who always writes so practically that people like me just cannot help but agree with you! absolutely well said hon, i love ur last paragraph the most! ur just too right! i have nothing to say accept for agreeing! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

WOWWW girl....hats off to u!!!!!
I second u!!! sometimes I dont understand the forum rules...where the topic with healthy discussion get closed and some senseless topics go on and on!!! its always like that!! so I wont be shocked even if this topic also get closed.....u r belong to a minority anyways..so u cant fight back!!😳

now coming to the fan followings...BINGO there.....I really feel proud sometime bz I belong to THIS group!!! We dont laugh on someone....and always care for others' feelings!! Most of us give our opinion in a way that nobody feels HURT!! and I m sure Monaya would feel proud on us!! also....we r minority in a forum...not in a world!!!! take a public poll of a whole world and we will see who is more popular!!! anyways....that matters less for me!!

I always like healthy discussion.....views can be different....par there is always a GOOD WAY of putting ur opinion forward!! some ppl fail to do that everytime!!


so again....I m a monaya/SG fan....and really LUCKY and PROUD to be one!!

hugs from my side!!

on ps- I think our mods are neutral .....that I can say for sure!! so here I dont agree with u!

Mohit's Pari, first you need to tell me your name (I seriously don't want Sanaya to get all upset with me now that her dating Mohit is almost confirmed).

As for your disagreement, you've the benefit of being a more experienced user. So yes you could be right. But, here's the thing. From those who had responded to the comparison of Arjun and Mohit as Devdas, there were a good number who should have received warnings but none did. Probably because I had created a supposedly instigating topic so they were spared?

I love your view point.. We need members to be able to express their views like you have.

reserved!
FABULOUS post, Sonya !!!!!

wooops, I forgot I reserved this post! Sorry! posted again on pg. 12

So Finally I got the time to comment on this thread =)
The paragraphs in pink are my thoughts ! 😳


If we could manage to create a healthy discussion by comparing and contrasting our likes and dislikes in Arjun and Mohit's acting, we might have added something to enhancing our critical skills in analyzing a scene. But, why do that? We're happy with repeating our standard topics day in and day out, isn't it?
Yeah, I think that would be really interesting. Basically, after reading your post - I was again thinking of what exactly a discussion is.. compared to what we're doing now at the forum..Its true that we are basically just agreeing with each other or disagreeing or we tell what we like about a particular scene, dialogue etc. What you're talking about, if I understood correctly, is more about a critical analysis of an actor - well, atleast that would be interesting for me anyway!
In my view, you just cant watch a serial and comment on it and tell what you like and what you dont link about it; because in order to that you need a scale type of thing..to relativate your comments..Atleast Ive realised that lately..

If you just watch ONE serial in your entire life and you dont have any clue about other serials - what can you say about? Atleast 50 % of the discussions will be less..PLUS..all the serials are mostly "realistic" (they're not about aliens, right?!) so, you ll automatically start comparing..because you sort of need atleast two values so taht you can say which you like more..I mean..even the fact taht you like a serial is just because you dont like others - compared to them! Same goes for acting - if you cant compare, you surely dont have a favourite actor!

Even I would find it pretty interesting to know what exactly you like about an actor..and what not..I mean, if you talk about pure acting. The only thing which is, in my view, a bit difficult is that you can only compare if two actors play the exact same role..Then you might actually compare..
Of course, this is never the case. Also, another point is that, you can only do that if you're a neutral observer..And I really do think that its very hard to remain neutral if you have your favourites! Let me tell you why : one of the reasons is that you generally understand your fav characters much more..and right now - I'm assuming that there must be only 20% or even less ppl who watch the entire serial..rather than watching only parts with their favs..so, you might have different interpretations of a character, which will of course always influence the way of acting!

So, basically..if you want to have a discussion about acting...you clearly need to give a proper interpretation of every scene, every character. So that people know exactly what the "guide lines" are..and then depending on that you can tell exactly what you like about his or her acting and what could be better..
Of course this all is for everyone..not only for the people who are not fan of the resp. couple...but also for the people who have the same fav couple..because everyone sees every character with a different point of view...tahts why...but again - ofcourse its more easier to discuss with "your" group.

Then, one more thing which I observed in this forum is that.. the "bashing"/"jealousy" thing..
The main problem for me is that if someone disagrees just for the sake of it, that really irritates me. I dont mind if someone didnt like a particular scene - but I want reasons for it! I would love to know why exactly did you feel that way? If people just say "Ewww..that was soo boring and disgusting" - I will definitely term that as bashing because for everything there must be a reason,right? If someone says " Okay, this was really boring, cause they were just arguing for a couple of mins and none of their problems have been resolved..what a waste of time" - I respect that opinion and I would disagree and bring up my arguments. ofcourse my intention is NOT to convince the other person, but also to open a new perspective for a particular sequence!

Yes, the forum is full of "bashing" these days, not only these days, it has been like that for a loong while. And I guess it wont change!
My main problem in this forum is that you are no more allowed to talk honestly about a non-fav-couple. I can understand that in a way. Yes, it is true that we are kind of protective towards our fav. couple.
I myself am a bit sensitive. So, even the way of writing things can influence me..and I ll call it as bashing! But I guess im not the only one..Im not THAT sensitive..but if someone puts all these "ewww"-emoticons and the post itself has no good content...then i ll defo call it bashing..cause there should be a proper discussion right?

If someone just writes... man..that scene was soo boring..I hate that character...why didnt they show more of the other character.. Its like, Okay, I respect your opinion. But why dont you give reasons which made you form your opinion? And then ofcourse if you say that they wasted time on a particular sequence - they shouldnt have done that..Okay, thats again a personal opinion. But I would rather like to read what exactly they should have done with THAT particular scene and NOT by just telling to have shown more scenes for the other couple or so - yes, I will have the feeling that this person is just too egoistic..and wants to have loadsss of scene for a couple, and the other one not to be shown.

Okay, I wonder if a) I made sense b) it is off topic or not!

Sonya, in general - very interesting topic!!! 👏 👏

^ Ermm.. Welll.. The DT tries to not close topics, but if a certain person causes instigation ..then we can follow up on that person only.

Reserved! Awesome post Sonya! As always =)

I value your opinions, and i think a lot of what you have said is true..to some extent.
You're also a good writer.

I think with strong emotions, the Mayur fans may have become a little offensive to others on the forum.. considering less screen space, stupid tracks, and wardrobe, and then finally killing they're favourite character, may have made us bitter - they have been treated in a bias manner.

And yes i want to apologise for them, i don't know why, but i felt it was done mainly on impluse, they felt protective, many of them are infact very intelligent and good people, no doubt.
This is not to say that the Sajan fans were always polite and friendly...i think considering they were "minority" there may have been chances they were discrete.
I don't want to spark of a debate between the fans, whatever it is, we are part of the same forum, the same atmosphere and i respect all of them.

I just want to say just because im part of the majority, doesn't make it of less value. I'm their fan for a reason..and im totally proud of being a Mayur fan.

And i disagree, i don't think the mods are bias. But some posts maybe quicker to close then others, considering the fans that feel offended. The forum rules do restrict what can be written...but then again its to keep a friendly environment for all types of people.