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Posted: 15 years ago
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@ krystal_watz...I thought we were not talking about a SPECIFIC Actress.... I would like to point out few things...

Nope.... she was very well known. and famous....... she did couple serials and a regional movie.... if you actually followed the serial and the articles from the beginning...Nupur role was only for 4 months ...Rati was given 4 months ...Richa Yamini didn't think Rati could so the role the justice.... not only Rati prooved her self...but made the character soooo memorable that Nupur became synonymous to Rati.... The creative team conceptualizes the character.... but eventually it is the Actor that will do justice to the character.... in the gazzillion female characters that come today on telly...Few made their way...rest are MEDIOCRE lot....

LORD... MJHT season 1 till confession had Good dialouges...as far as MN are concerned... I can write it on a bond paper and say they were never given any proper plot.... nothing was given to them...from BAD EDITING...BAD DIALOGUES.... BAD CLOTHES.... BAD TRACKS.... what was beautiful was they way Arjun and Rati turned a rotten scenario in to a watch worthy one..... they uplifted the class and level of the show despite the rotten treatment ....

PH is not doing them favor...PH is also is earning money through the acting talents of the actors...what you sow you reap....

We always appreciated when ever we can.... and we criticized so that they will realize the hell turn the show has taken.... So coming down to the BASIC question...What is important to PH... Fans or themselves.... obviously Actors don't matter right...

I see that these days it has become fancy to play the blame game.....Have you heard rati not been grateful to the PH and creatives...she thanked them profusely.... What does she gets back...the BIRDIE TWEETING.... I would say... lack of decency... and professionalism.... I wonder What Richa Yamini has to say about this.... after all she is the creative Director...and Sushmitta have to say about it...as she is the EP...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: utfracks



Fine, maybe it's give and take.
But this particular actor in question, I don't think has been ungrateful to the PH.
And to make another point, viewers fell in love with the serial only because of their respective couples. Otherwise, who would really appreciate cliched tracks, with actors who couldn't even ACT? I was against even watching MJHT in the first place, when I heard they were trying to make it a youth show like Remix. And me being a big fan of Remix, would never accept any show to take it's place. But what got me hooked? The acting, the chemistry between the two actors. And as for character sketches, they were impressive, no doubt, but the actor that breathed life into it made the character lovable. And I do not think any actor could have done justice to Nupur, other than Rati. So Rati made Nupur popular, made her lovable, and created such a huge fan following for herself. Had it not been for Rati, I have my doubts if I would have even watched this show for more than a week.

I respect your opinion....but how can you say if you wud had or had not liked it if some other actress had portryaed Nupur from the start??😃
Thats what im trying to say- Actors and PH TOGETHER make a serial success....its not a one-side story. See?😃
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: krystal_watz

And besides, its not like actors are NEVER at fault, sometimes people do get over-hyped and take their star status for granted, and throw around tantrums. Another thing, if i was an actor, i'd never hve been so ungrateful to the people who gave me the chance to make a platform for myselves and show them down.😃



I am confused .... Are you talking about Rati or Not...at one point you are and the other you aren't........

Who said actors are not at fault...we are saying Rati is not at fault.... the topic was posted after fans reacted to PH articles.... hence the assumption ... we are talking about Rati...

@bold... see statements like these lead to up choke reflex... FYI... I am only talking about Rati here...I am making myself clear...Like other MN fans here We can say GAZZILLION TIMES...She THANKED THEM PROFUSELY.... do people not hear...or choose not to hear..... she never showed any one down...

now if this statement is intended for more of a general statement...I still haven't seen a single actor/actress who dissed PH like the way PH disses Actors.....

I am done I guess.... we agree to disagree...I understand one thing...the intention is to PROVE us fans Rati has wronged the PH and PH is right in this SPECIFIC case.... and we are saying Exactly the opposite.... we are diagonally opposite...and this is an argument based on opinions not on facts.... I have facts... otherwise I wouldn't be here....

So Happy Commenting...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: aj_observer

@ krystal_watz...I thought we were not talking about a SPECIFIC Actress.... I would like to point out few things...

Nope.... she was very well known. and famous....... she did couple serials and a regional movie.... if you actually followed the serial and the articles from the beginning...Nupur role was only for 4 months ...Rati was given 4 months ...Richa Yamini didn't think Rati could so the role the justice.... not only Rati prooved her self...but made the character soooo memorable that Nupur became synonymous to Rati.... The creative team conceptualizes the character.... but eventually it is the Actor that will do justice to the character.... in the gazzillion female characters that come today on telly...Few made their way...rest are MEDIOCRE lot....

LORD... MJHT season 1 till confession had Good dialouges...as far as MN are concerned... I can write it on a bond paper and say they were never given any proper plot.... nothing was given to them...from BAD EDITING...BAD DIALOGUES.... BAD CLOTHES.... BAD TRACKS.... what was beautiful was they way Arjun and Rati turned a rotten scenario in to a watch worthy one..... they uplifted the class and level of the show despite the rotten treatment ....

PH is not doing them favor...PH is also is earning money through the acting talents of the actors...what you sow you reap....

We always appreciated when ever we can.... and we criticized so that they will realize the hell turn the show has taken.... So coming down to the BASIC question...What is important to PH... Fans or themselves.... obviously Actors don't matter right...

I see that these days it has become fancy to play the blame game.....Have you heard rati not been grateful to the PH and creatives...she thanked them profusely.... What does she gets back...the BIRDIE TWEETING.... I would say... lack of decency... and professionalism.... I wonder What Richa Yamini has to say about this.... after all she is the creative Director...and Sushmitta have to say about it...as she is the EP...

Nah...we weren't talking about any specific actor...i used Rati as an EXAMPLE...
Yea i know that she did a Tamil Movie and Har Ghar Kuch Kehta Hain...as far as i remember, the serial wasnt that famous...and had a short shelf life.
And btw, i am not saying that Rati isnt a good actress, am only saying that its the COLLABORATIVE EFFORT of the team that goes in to make the Serial a success.....as for the "Rotten Dialogues, Rotten clothes" etc etc,...well they were true for some instances, but lets not forget, for every 100 Rotten scenes and dialogues, we got 1000 beautiful meaningful scenes, song sequeces and dialogues...which is why you get so many .."Memrable One-Liners of Nupur...memorable Scenes of MaYur" Topics in the forum.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: krystal_watz

Remember, MaYur got so many fans because they were DIFFERENT- realistic and refreshing compared to other cliched telly romantic characters..😆



Wrong again...it is adaptation of Emily Dickerson's novel heroes and heroines.... they are not really unique...none of them are....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: krystal_watz

I respect your opinion....but how can you say if you wud had or had not liked it if some other actress had portryaed Nupur from the start??😃
Thats what im trying to say- Actors and PH TOGETHER make a serial success....its not a one-side story. See?😃



I can be sure of that, since I know what I want to see. And as far as I know, there is NO actress who could play Nupur better than Rati. That's a fact which cannot be ignored. And I'm positive, had it not been for Rati, I'd have not even given this show a chance, No matter how good Arjun is as an actor.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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. Another thing, if i was an actor, i'd never hve been so ungrateful to the people who gave me the chance to make a platform for myselves and show them down.😃
may i know whom u r pointing here?
if it was rati then i have tons of proofs where she heartfully expressed her wishes for ph and cvs.she made apology to sushmitha on behalf of fans.
i think i m ruining my time in this highly civilised argument.
anyways bye have a good day
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: krystal_watz


Nah...we weren't talking about any specific actor...i used Rati as an EXAMPLE...

Yea i know that she did a Tamil Movie and Har Ghar Kuch Kehta Hain...as far as i remember, the serial wasnt that famous...and had a short shelf life.
And btw, i am not saying that Rati isnt a good actress, am only saying that its the COLLABORATIVE EFFORT of the team that goes in to make the Serial a success.....as for the "Rotten Dialogues, Rotten clothes" etc etc,...well they were true for some instances, but lets not forget, for every 100 Rotten scenes and dialogues, we got 1000 beautiful meaningful scenes, song sequeces and dialogues...which is why you get so many .."Memrable One-Liners of Nupur...memorable Scenes of MaYur" Topics in the forum.





It was a decent Serial...Ran for about 2 years... Rati also made her mark on the character.... of all the 3 sisters story hers was toughest to portray..... Shaadi street was the one that has short shelf life.... the PH had issues with channel...hardly aired...

LOL... yes COLLABORATIVE EFFORT... nice shift... once it was all PH that made these character famous.... now it is collaborative effort.... AGREED...

How come only one party in this joint venture is thanking the other party.... the other party is stabbing in the back..... One ROTTEN TOMATO in the entire PH brings such a bad name.... that is called lack of professionalism......

About the 1000 beautiful scenes...NOPE... we interpreted them to satisfy our need to support our fav... she was given an very goos character sketch...as she went on climbing the steps the complexity of her character increased...they gave her because she could do it... she upheld their EXPECTATIONS...rather EXCEEDED them.... I told previously... MJHT was good till certain extent.... after that ... it was nothing but a convoluted adult fiction..... I personally wouldn't have watched it if Rati wasn't there.... and That is a fact....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Good night Amiga... nice chatting...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: aj_observer

I still haven't found one solid defense against any production house.... Yeah they work hard to come up with money , teams etc etc... but they are also responsible employee satisfaction.... one of the huge factor in successful company is EMPLOYEE SATISFACTION.... Which equates to Productivity.... I have seen Big companies collapse due to lack of understanding and personnel management skills.... what do we hear..the employee demands are unreasonable ... but what they don;t tell you is what is reasonable...a common ground can always be acheived...then again who is trying.... every one is interested in mud slinging.....

Come to think of it...how come only famous actor/actress gets maligned... there are gazillion stars in the telly... why do we hear about the ones that are famous..... sounds to me like some one has an axe to grind...or are using that popularity to become popular...

in the end everything relates to POWER and MONEY...No logic or No real Fundaa....


@ bold
You are right............this happens a lot but when you can sense a management/employees issue?............I think the % of turnover is the best measure to know that............turnover here means # employees quiting the job and not the other way............seeing MJHT now for 2 yrs.......only adhani case could be considered as a turnover case..........all other actors contracts were not renewed by the employer..........and other actors still there in the show.......... so I don't think this issue exist in MJHT, at least till now..
@ red
You may be right and our freind DMG may be right as well..............it could go either ways........everything is possible, but in our case we don't know the truth........so why to through judgements without solid basics?!!

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