Why is it always the ph at fault? [note pg.15] - Page 4

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Posted: 15 years ago
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very good post👏

I have some doubts (i am not critizing, these are just my POV)...

Lets take the example of MJHT, if the actor is at fault and they decided to remove the actor from there show then what is the need of conducting poll and fooling the audience. They can just remove her saying the story demands and no need to bad mouth the actor and create all drama.

another point is before we use to get MJHT columns very rarely in various media, but now each and every day we are getting one new post about MJHT, if productions house is not promoting then is the media which is promoting MJHT??

I want to post more but little busy will try to most later
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: aj_observer

Care to share the statistics... to be truly honest... I really don't know... who has more percentage of faults... would be a nice bar graph... 😊
PS: not being specific or sarcastic...just damn curious....

i agree with you.............
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Posted: 15 years ago
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moreover what are they doing with new characters...........showing pregnancy before marriage and all ..................the productuion hoiuse started it as a youth show.............and now the youth element is no where near to it...........mayur were treated very badly.............
we know this better as we were watching from 1.5 years..................


moreover one more thing...........whenever actor is eliminated from a show .............ph always tries to put the whole blame on the actor and spoil his/her image..............

and the way , their rude behave with the fans who supported their show us actually excellent some times if you dont know.............
Edited by surbhi123 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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No desire to hurt anyone's sentiment, but do you really expect any actor to say in an interview "I behaved badly and they chucked me out" or "we were having problems and so they decided to terminate my contract?" Everyone (incl actors and production houses) always paints themselves as the injured party - its human nature. It may well be true or untrue, no one but the parties would know better.
Take the interviews with a fist full of salt like you would any poll. Polls are just a means of generating interest in the serial or keeping interest alive. They have asked you for an opinion, not committed to follow it, lol! Look at DMG - after an overwhelming majority for AR, its Sid who is walking away with Ridhima. SO take all of this with a huge dollop of salt! :-)
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Posted: 15 years ago
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ph said actor ws thrwing tantrums on sets,n blah blah blah n actor said it ws mutualy decided dat i will leave she did nt blame ph ..........
did she ??? no she didnt do it at all?? so wht cn u judge by dis..........u cn urself decide!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: vincikhurana

ph said actor ws thrwing tantrums on sets,n blah blah blah n actor said it ws mutualy decided dat i will leave she did nt blame ph ..........
did she ??? no she didnt do it at all?? so wht cn u judge by dis..........u cn urself decide!

Did you see one of their office say that? or even hear him like you did with Rati interview?
There is one Q in my mind, why do you have to prove the other side is at fault in order to show your fav one is correct?!!
Why can't you take it as no one was at fault.................it was just a business between the two parties when they had similar interests.........but now they don't........so end the business.........specially that none of you are in a position where he can know the truth..........
Isn't it better to be in a safe side than commit unjustice to others due to your lack of knowledge..?!!
Let's say MJHT will shut down due to your great efforts,...................great, that's what you want..................coz by this you could get revenge for Rati...............but have you ever thought of the other effects of this thing?!!
The shutting down of MJHT means that employees will lose their job which gave them the ability to satisfy the basic needs of their families..........the food, clothes, study, etc......
May some of them won't be able to find a job soon, they will suffer looking for a new opportunities...........may be they will get their kids out of school coz they don't have enough money.......
Now the Q is: is Rati's revenge deserves their suffer? may be?!!
Will you be full satisfied then? may be?!!
How strange that something similar was shown in MJHT before 2 months of that Niel's track.........
No one is asking you to watch what you are not interested about...............but do not do something in bad purpose,..................coz then you may become responsible of someone's pain......... like a person who, instead of just not buying a merchant's product, is trying his best to spoil the merchant's product that others won't buy from him......
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@yasri: WoW.. <claps> very well written and i agree with ur points 100%.. 😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: DMGFan-2b-not2b

Read all the posts and am amazed that it remained a civilized discussion so thanks guys for actively participating and giving some very sensible views both for and against.

Someone mentioned something about an article. Let me clarify that the post was made in the context of fans and their outpourings not media and the article. Media will often publish what is sensational, what makes it sell, what people want o read and sometimes to settle scores. I am a media person so I know how exactly this works esp in the entertainment business, which is why I can tell you that it not always the production house that is at fault. Do they sometimes play dirty, of course they do. They have a lot riding on the shoulders of the actors they pick, so when things come unstuck, yeah, they can play dirty.

But it's not as if actors are innocent babes in the woods. In fact, very
often with increasing popularity, they start throwing their weight around, land up late at sets etc. Does it ever strike you why these problems only ever emerge after a serial is extremely popular, has been running for a while and a couple of cast members achieve iconic status with fans?
Problems always seem to arise with the really popular star. If the actor remained exactly as he or she was since inception, why would the producer suddenly chuck them out when the actor and their serial have achieved great popularity? It's suicidal and no one is destructive suicidal when it involves huge sums of money, least of all the guy whose business/source of income is to make these serials.
If you're ready to be difficult, you shouldn't be surprised to get an even stronger reaction from the other side. This applies to both actors and the production houses. An actor, who has been difficult, and, is a trouble maker will find himself isolated after a time, if this happens repeatedly, and over time, a unprofessional production houses will be shunned by better and popular actors.
But this is a "you scratch mine and I'll scratch yr back" business. When they need each other, they will kiss and make up, and the viewers will be happy believing they actually were the ones to make it happen, lol!.
As for people disliking CVs cos they don't do what the viewers ask for, in my experience when they do start listening to every single thing that is put out, that's a recipe for disaster. In both DMG and MJHT, a huge nos of posts I saw on the forums were requests for more lovey dovey scenes, consummation and some more love scenes.. so what do you ended with ? soppy, mushy, nonsensical hashes which finally even the people who asked for it cannot watch..
In my opinion, a serial should not extend more than a 5-6 months or if it does, it should have season breaks like they do in the West. Allows the creative team to refresh and continues to keep alive the interest in the show!

It really feels different to read from someone who has a substantial experiance and knowledge in the field that we are discussing........ thnx for giving us some of your knowledge...
@bold
100% agree..........even if you can notice the storyline/scenes were more decent and convincing in the first 6 months of MJHT........coz audiance hadn't that much influance on cvs........
I hope cvs just follow their own ideas and don't listen too much to the fans.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: yasri

Did you see one of their office say that? or even hear him like you did with Rati interview?
There is one Q in my mind, why do you have to prove the other side is at fault in order to show your fav one is correct?!!
Why can't you take it as no one was at fault.................it was just a business between the two parties when they had similar interests.........but now they don't........so end the business.........specially that none of you are in a position where he can know the truth..........
Isn't it better to be in a safe side than commit unjustice to others due to your lack of knowledge..?!!
Let's say MJHT will shut down due to your great efforts,...................great, that's what you want..................coz by this you could get revenge for Rati...............but have you ever thought of the other effects of this thing?!!
The shutting down of MJHT means that employees will lose their job which gave them the ability to satisfy the basic needs of their families..........the food, clothes, study, etc......
May some of them won't be able to find a job soon, they will suffer looking for a new opportunities...........may be they will get their kids out of school coz they don't have enough money.......
Now the Q is: is Rati's revenge deserves their suffer? may be?!!
Will you be full satisfied then? may be?!!
How strange that something similar was shown in MJHT before 2 months of that Niel's track.........
No one is asking you to watch what you are not interested about...............but do not do something in bad purpose,..................coz then you may become responsible of someone's pain......... like a person who, instead of just not buying a merchant's product, is trying his best to spoil the merchant's product that others won't buy from him......

Well said! Why blame one party only when you are not party to or aware of the truth. In any case, even if you had an inkling of the reality, truth is always from the perspective of the teller. So the actor is not going to say I messed up and neither is the production house.
And like you said, you don't like the merchandise, take your business elsewhere. Just because the guy is not selling the merchandise at your terms, don't malign it so that no one else buys it too. That's unethical and underhand and against norms of acceptable behaviour.
It's a show, an actor moves on, accept it, wish the actor well and hope to see him/her on another show, another channel sometime soon...again...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: yasri

Did you see one of their office say that? or even hear him like you did with Rati interview?
There is one Q in my mind, why do you have to prove the other side is at fault in order to show your fav one is correct?!!
Why can't you take it as no one was at fault.................it was just a business between the two parties when they had similar interests.........but now they don't........so end the business.........specially that none of you are in a position where he can know the truth..........
Isn't it better to be in a safe side than commit unjustice to others due to your lack of knowledge..?!!
Let's say MJHT will shut down due to your great efforts,...................great, that's what you want..................coz by this you could get revenge for Rati...............but have you ever thought of the other effects of this thing?!!
The shutting down of MJHT means that employees will lose their job which gave them the ability to satisfy the basic needs of their families..........the food, clothes, study, etc......
May some of them won't be able to find a job soon, they will suffer looking for a new opportunities...........may be they will get their kids out of school coz they don't have enough money.......
Now the Q is: is Rati's revenge deserves their suffer? may be?!!
Will you be full satisfied then? may be?!!
How strange that something similar was shown in MJHT before 2 months of that Niel's track.........
No one is asking you to watch what you are not interested about...............but do not do something in bad purpose,..................coz then you may become responsible of someone's pain......... like a person who, instead of just not buying a merchant's product, is trying his best to spoil the merchant's product that others won't buy from him......

hahahahhhhh.......well i remember when monaya wer removed 4 znd how u pppl bashed PH n nt 2 4gt d host 2......
den y such post......atleast u ppl 1st follow wat u preach oders.....
n bout ph bein blamed........v all knw....itz in frnt f us dey already hd decided 2 kill nupur......poll thn ws juzz made 2 attract deir S2.......
n similarly nw innumerous article 4 ph.......n also on mjht....2 attracts viewers.......SADLY WICH IS NT HAPPENIN.....
naice topic btw....

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