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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: ayesha_80

Awww thank u Mads, for liking my POV. U're a sweetheart !!! 🤗🤗
Its a proven fact (well i find it to be so) that "when u laugh, everyone lauhs wid u, but when u cry, u cry alone". Here also, v see Gunjan smiling, interacting wid her friends, trying to b all normal, and in return everyone is also smiling with her, helping her etc. But wat no one is realizing is that its her heart that is crying, and so, its crying alone. On the face of it, she strong, but inside, she has lost everything.
I'm not at all saying that Sam is not wid her. I mean the way he's looking after her is extremely touching, commendable, lovable, januable etc. etc. etc. But, he too is focusing on the recovery of her feet and NOT that of her heart. That day she said "mein pehle hi tunhare laik nahin this, aur ab tum kyon apna time mujhpe zaya ker rahey ho", and yest. she said, "agar tum mera koi kaam kerna chahtey ho to mujhe akela chod do", bcoz when i'll b alone, atleast my tears will be the companion of my heart. They will share its pain.
Having said this, i believe that Sam has the solution to this problem. Afterall, he is her SOULMATE. If she's in pain, he's also suffering every min. and is making every effort to make her feel better, to bring her back to life, on her own feet. But, i guess what he needs to do is not only to focus on her physical recovery, but he needs to try and heal the wound that has made her lose the will, the will to live, the will to love, the will to smile not just for others, but for herself, i.e. from her heart. And when her heart will smile, she will automatically stand, walk, and run on her own feet and that too towards her destination, i.e. his Sam..
P.S.: This is purely my POV. If i've hurt anyone's feelings coz of it, i'm extremely sorry.



I totally agree ayesha...so beautifully said.👏...
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i so so so agree with u ayesha...cant agree more...its both samrat and gunjan who r suffering....n its both who r fighting.Yup i agree that samrat along with making her walk also needs to be with her emotionally.....bt i think he is so much into making her walk because whats making her feel is a permanent disability is actually not....there is complete hope taht she will walk....n thats why i think cvs havent shown samrat strenghthening her emotionally.Because what gunjan is thinking is different from what samrat is....she thinks that she isnt the same 2 the world n will never become in future as well but for samrat all this is just temprorary...n what all is required is an effort.Here is the difference...the difference in the way gunjan looks to her disability and the difference in the way sam looks to it.where gunjan thinks that she isnt worthy of sam as she wont be able to walk...he cant even think abt the phrase.."SHE WONT BE ABLE TO WALK".....thats the difference.
Its not that he is scared to think that what if she doesnt walk for his future n his happiness but he cant think abt such a painful thing happening to gunjan.All in all...what i mean is we cant say that sam is anywhere wrong or gunjan is anywhere wrong..they r seeing the same things with different povs.

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: princessyashika



I totally agree ayesha...so beautifully said.👏...
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i so so so agree with u ayesha...cant agree more...its both samrat and gunjan who r suffering....n its both who r fighting.Yup i agree that samrat along with making her walk also needs to be with her emotionally.....bt i think he is so much into making her walk because whats making her feel is a permanent disability is actually not....there is complete hope taht she will walk....n thats why i think cvs havent shown samrat strenghthening her emotionally.Because what gunjan is thinking is different from what samrat is....she thinks that she isnt the same 2 the world n will never become in future as well but for samrat all this is just temprorary...n what all is required is an effort.Here is the difference...the difference in the way gunjan looks to her disability and the difference in the way sam looks to it.where gunjan thinks that she isnt worthy of sam as she wont be able to walk...he cant even think abt the phrase.."SHE WONT BE ABLE TO WALK".....thats the difference.
Its not that he is scared to think that what if she doesnt walk for his future n his happiness but he cant think abt such a painful thing happening to gunjan.All in all...what i mean is we cant say that sam is anywhere wrong or gunjan is anywhere wrong..they r seeing the same things with different povs.



@ bold : EXACTLY .. there is a difference wit the way they both are looking at this disability ..and unless sam MAKES her look at it the way HE is looking at it..she wil NOT recover .. thats ALL that v are saying ..and not jus the fact tht he doesnt want to THINK abt it himself..ofcourse he knows that very well..but what he needs to think here is that SHE is thinking that way and she needs to change her thinking and there's only one way to assure her is that even when she isnt able to walk again, he wil stil love her the same..because her recovery is a very small part of the beautiful world they share .. right now, he is potraying it to b THE main thing in their world..which actually it isnt .. and when gunji is assured of this, she wil automatically MAKE it the imp thing in their world .. because then even she wil cease to think abt 'his' world and 'her' world..and it wil become 'their' world for her ..

v understand and appreciate and respect the way sam is looking at her disability and the road towards her recovery, its deffo the BEST .. nothing can beat it, but until gunjan looks at it in this similar manner..nobody can help her recover..not even sam .. so first he has to change her perspective towards looking at it and then she shud focus on recovering her ..

thats the gist of what v wer going on abt since yest .. u are understanding sam's pain more..v are understanding gunjan's pain more .. BOTH are in pain, but sumwher BOTH are stil stubborn at their own POVs..gunjan, more I agree! and hence unless they discuss and talk abt THIS...they wil not fight circumstances together!
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: mads



@ bold : EXACTLY .. there is a difference wit the way they both are looking at this disability ..and unless sam MAKES her look at it the way HE is looking at it..she wil NOT recover .. thats ALL that v are saying ..and not jus the fact tht he doesnt want to THINK abt it himself..ofcourse he knows that very well..but what he needs to think here is that SHE is thinking that way and she needs to change her thinking and there's only one way to assure her is that even when she isnt able to walk again, he wil stil love her the same..because her recovery is a very small part of the beautiful world they share .. right now, he is potraying it to b THE main thing in their world..which actually it isnt .. and when gunji is assured of this, she wil automatically MAKE it the imp thing in their world .. because then even she wil cease to think abt 'his' world and 'her' world..and it wil become 'their' world for her ..

v understand and appreciate and respect the way sam is looking at her disability and the road towards her recovery, its deffo the BEST .. nothing can beat it, but until gunjan looks at it in this similar manner..nobody can help her recover..not even sam .. so first he has to change her perspective towards looking at it and then she shud focus on recovering her ..

thats the gist of what v wer going on abt since yest .. u are understanding sam's pain more..v are understanding gunjan's pain more .. BOTH are in pain, but sumwher BOTH are stil stubborn at their own POVs..gunjan, more I agree! and hence unless they discuss and talk abt THIS...they wil not fight circumstances together!

@ Bold: LOVE u Mads for dis.. I even wrote in my post in the other thread that they both need time, time to discuss, to sort out the differences, to share their problems, their pain, their insecurities. And like always, dis time also they will fight together and win this battle.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: mads



@ bold : EXACTLY .. there is a difference wit the way they both are looking at this disability ..and unless sam MAKES her look at it the way HE is looking at it..she wil NOT recover .. thats ALL that v are saying ..and not jus the fact tht he doesnt want to THINK abt it himself..ofcourse he knows that very well..but what he needs to think here is that SHE is thinking that way and she needs to change her thinking and there's only one way to assure her is that even when she isnt able to walk again, he wil stil love her the same..because her recovery is a very small part of the beautiful world they share .. right now, he is potraying it to b THE main thing in their world..which actually it isnt .. and when gunji is assured of this, she wil automatically MAKE it the imp thing in their world .. because then even she wil cease to think abt 'his' world and 'her' world..and it wil become 'their' world for her ..

v understand and appreciate and respect the way sam is looking at her disability and the road towards her recovery, its deffo the BEST .. nothing can beat it, but until gunjan looks at it in this similar manner..nobody can help her recover..not even sam .. so first he has to change her perspective towards looking at it and then she shud focus on recovering her ..

thats the gist of what v wer going on abt since yest .. u are understanding sam's pain more..v are understanding gunjan's pain more .. BOTH are in pain, but sumwher BOTH are stil stubborn at their own POVs..gunjan, more I agree! and hence unless they discuss and talk abt THIS...they wil not fight circumstances together!



haha..thats funny....well i think mads then we were discussing the same thing since yesterday but not getting each other...n ya may be i was taking ur pov differently...but its not that i am more affected by sam's pain...in my view sam isnt in that much pain in which gunjan is...what all i am trying to convince since yesterday is that...if gunjan is totally justified in what she is feeling so is even samrat....just he needs to make her understand things and her disability from his pov.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: princessyashika



haha..thats funny....well i think mads then we were discussing the same thing since yesterday but not getting each other...n ya may be i was taking ur pov differently...but its not that i am more affected by sam's pain...in my view sam isnt in that much pain in which gunjan is...what all i am trying to convince since yesterday is that...if gunjan is totally justified in what she is feeling so is even samrat....just he needs to make her understand things and her disability from his pov.



NEITHER of them is completely right or wrong in their actions...but while v were justifying gunjan's actions for u..u werent ready to accept them .. sam's actions were not wrong, jus that they were not completely right too .. and THATS wher the entire disagreement came from!

so until sam changes HIS POV in treating her differently..OR talks to her and MAKES her look at things from his POV, she wil not b ready to think abt ANYTHING at the moment..except that she has accepted her state .. and hence sam has to put in those extra efforts here .. and its a plus for him since he loves her soo selflessly and soo unconditionally ...

honestly, m telling u ..sam's actions may look simple to u..but they are NOT..such accidents and paralysis can change ppl's very lives forever..and she is indeed lucky that sam is her soulmate, because he is very selfless in his love for her and it really doesnt depend on her physical condition ...

however he NEEDS to convince gunjan of that .. because she, like most of us, is a very practical and real person and why wil she accept it soo easily that sam loves her unconditionally? when she IS different from the rest? he needs to talk it out wit her .. thats all that v meant!
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: mads



NEITHER of them is completely right or wrong in their actions...but while v were justifying gunjan's actions for u..u werent ready to accept them .. sam's actions were not wrong, jus that they were not completely right too .. and THATS wher the entire disagreement came from!

so until sam changes HIS POV in treating her differently..OR talks to her and MAKES her look at things from his POV, she wil not b ready to think abt ANYTHING at the moment..except that she has accepted her state .. and hence sam has to put in those extra efforts here .. and its a plus for him since he loves her soo selflessly and soo unconditionally ...

honestly, m telling u ..sam's actions may look simple to u..but they are NOT..such accidents and paralysis can change ppl's very lives forever..and she is indeed lucky that sam is her soulmate, because he is very selfless in his love for her and it really doesnt depend on her physical condition ...

however he NEEDS to convince gunjan of that .. because she, like most of us, is a very practical and real person and why wil she accept it soo easily that sam loves her unconditionally? when she IS different from the rest? he needs to talk it out wit her .. thats all that v meant!



Well I think we r again going to have a debate upon this...i disagree....well in my view its the difference in outlook.U r saying that both r not completely right....then if u r telling me the raeson that why "samrat is wrong"....pls do also tell me where "gunjan is wrong" as well.
To me personally both r justified....both r correct. n dats why i put up on this debate that why r u ppl saying that sam is wrong.I nowhere found anyone of u pointing gunjan's mistake.I on a personal front am not saying that she is wrong...for me she is right....but when u urself have said that both r somewhere wrong then pls pls pls explain to me that point as well where u say that gunjan is wrong.I think its the way u look at it...a glass with half water n half air..can be either half empty or half filled...to me its half filled....n thats why i am saying that they both r correct from their intentions.I dont think either of them is wrong...rather both r justified from their povs.Its just that they r acting like two ends of the same river...just a bridge needs to be made....n thats what either one of them has to do.i am not saying anything abt how shud be gunjan or how shud be samrat...well i understand both of them that well...what all i am saying is that for me sajan relationship is not just abt samrat or just abt gunjan...its abt both of them.

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Posted: 15 years ago
lolz mads!
absolutly!
i m dieing to see my old Sajan back!
Sam is soo sweet, being there always for gunjan when she needs him, without even asking for help! though chashmish keeps on driving him off!
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Posted: 15 years ago
Happy Khuda Jaane to you all my SaJanians!!! 🤗
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Posted: 15 years ago
The SBS 😳
Edited by mohitkideewani - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
happy KJ sajanians!!!🤗 i can't believe a whole yrs over already!!!

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