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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: DiyaS


red@ mads, can I hug you for this 🤗 ... you put into words exactly what I was feeling ... she has lost SOOO much, each step she takes, or cannot take, reminds her of what all she has lost ... the simplest things like not being able to pick up her phone, to put on her own chappals if they are more than a few cm away ... each and every step is a struggle and she is just getting used to her own limitations herself ... and the pain and frustration they bring ... she has inner strength ... but she is not superwoman, she is entitled to feel those frustrations, that despair, and maybe she's just lashing out at him because she CAN, she needs to ... she's showing a smiling face to the rest of the world, even to her sister because she knows her sister will hurt even more for her if she doesn't ... who can she show her pain to ... These are her inner most fears she's showing, her doubts, the crippling sense of loss that she's feeling that goes far beyond the physical ...

and again ... Sanaya had so few dialogues, but the way she said them was just heart wrenching ... all the more because they were not accompanied by buckets of tears ... it was sheer emotional pain that made her lash out ...



@ bold : another point I jus noticed .. not that she is hiding out her frustrations on him..she IS lashing on him .. and she is lashing on him only and ONLY because she considers him THAT imp in her life .. jus think, who in our lives do v consider soo imp as to lash out all of our frustrations, anger, sorrows on ?? only on those ppl whom v consider close enuf .. or whom v are close enuf too ...

now, coming to nupur..yes, she is equally close to gunjan, but right now she is married and has a life of her own and problems of her own and she doesnt want to burden her wit them .. had she not been married, then nupur too wud hav been a victim of gunjan's frustrations .. because she loves her di a LOT ..

now, sam also KNOWS this..he knows that she is frustrated and that she has every right to remove her frustrations on him .. but what he doesnt kno is WHY exactly she is frustrated .. and this is what he needs to find out and cure .. and once he does this, then their battle is almost won ..

once this happens..then they wont b fighting WITH each other or FOR each other .. depending on the way u look at it, but wil b fighting TOGETHER, with the circumstances ..
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: DiyaS



Ayesha, this was truly, truly beautiful ... especially blue@ 👏

@meena, yashi ... good to get diff POV's, this was a great discussion!!!

@ naveen, mads, ayesha, yashi, meens, jia and any other bhoots hanging around ... have to go now, g'nite, all ... let's see what this week brings for us

PS ... do you ppl notice ... they never tell us in any article what's gonna happen to Gunjan ... first it was whether she will recover from coma or not, and now they still "haven't decided about her paralysis" ... don't you find it strange? Are they really writing the track as they shoot? Find it difficult to blv that somehow!



@ bold : LOL, that really is a mystery diya..I mean, they deliberately hav kept the sajan story in the dark..which in a way is good..LMAO!

but I agree..it IS difficult to believ that they write it wit each day...esp the BEAUTIFUL turns its taking these days 👏

awww u going.. 😭😭 okie, cya tomo then 🤗🤗
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Posted: 15 years ago
Mads, v both r playing hide and seek today. When i cum, u go and when u cum, i go. Not fair!!!
Edited by ayesha_80 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: ayesha_80

Mads, v both r playing hide and seek today. When i cum, u go and when u cum, i go. Not fair!!!



awww u left already 😭😭

LOVED ur post ayesha .. 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗 I want to LIKE it million times !!
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: DiyaS

did NO ONE feel the pathos of gunjan's words??!! Mujhe baar baar uss kami ka ehsaas mat dilao 😭 😭 😭

her words were like swords ... if anyone wondered why she keeps pushing samrat away, why is she scared to try ... her words said it all ...

SHIT ... poor Gunjan ... trying her best to come to terms with her disability, to live with it ... no, Samrat still has some distance to go ... his one point focus should be her ... just her .... first he has to convince her that whatever she is, however she is, she is his for life ...

kuch apni kaho, kuch usko suno ... right now listen to her, to her broken heart, to her shattered dreams ... if ever she thought she was not worthy of him, first he proved it by telling her he loved her but not enough to commit to her for life in the only way she wanted, now by telling her that she will walk again, she has to walk again ... and what she wants to know is ... WHAT IF SHE DOESN'T?!

Yes, show her you're with her every step of the way ... you'll walk with her, be proud if she walks with you, but will carry her all the way if needed ...

More than his words of love, her words of hurt pierced me today ...



Beautifully written Diya. I think u shld post this in the CREATIVE RESPONSE THREAD---u never know , may b CV'S will then start working on these lines--- IMAGINE THE FAB SAJAN TRACK THEN.....
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Posted: 15 years ago

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<font color="#9933ff" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">I disagree with you here on this Meenakshi, Gunjan may be selfless but she is is also a human being !! Samrat may have seen and experienced the pain of Gunjan sliping away, but Gunjan has to suffer heartbreak, gettikmg shot and then getting paralyzed. A person can suffer only so much trauma at one time !!! While Sam has to going all through this emotionally, Gunjan has to go though all this emotionally and physically, while also smiling through it because being selfless is her nature.

Whatever she is going through or admitting defeat is not only because of her being paralyzed, it has also a lot to do with what happened on that valentine night !! Not only her dreams and trust was shattered so was her self esteem and self confidence !! Even before the valentine night she always thought she wasnt worthy of Sam, so after what happened, its but natural for her to think of his happiness and not theirs, because now she not thinks she isnt worthy of him, she also believes it, so she is putting all her effort into driving him away, instead of putting that effort into getting better !! That's why Diya is so right !! She needs to know that her walking again is not the factor for them being together forvever !! He would be there even if she can't !!! </font>


Very well explained Xavira, I don't think anyone could have explained it better. Gunjan has indeed shown to be a very brave character , after what she has gone through , both emotionally & physically , it needs lots of courage & will power even to survive.. let alone to be happy for others.Her road to recovery will start only when she gains back her self confidence & for that Sam has to make her realize & believe that it's she who matters & not her ability to walk
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Posted: 15 years ago


no meens, he isn't in the same boat ... for one, he's not the one sitting in the wheelchair , and secondly, and this is the analysis I was actually thinking about last night and never got down to doing 😕 .... HIS love has been through the test of fire ... he's seen his Chashmish slipping away from him, and then come back as though by a miracle ... the feeling of loss he had when she walked away from him, was NOTHING compared to the feeling that he had when she lay in that hospital bed fighting for her life ... now he KNOWS that whatever happens, he cannot lose her, he will do everything he can to get her back, because losing her is not an option he can live with. Hi vulnerability when she walked away from him, was NOTHING compared to the helplessness and sheer despair he felt when he thought she was dying ...

And I think that is what has given him strength to fight even his own precious Chashmish ... earlier he used to treat her with kid gloves, if she said anything, it was - yes, you're right, you can never be wrong, but now he's saying that no, if you send me away from you, it's wrong, because even death cannot take you away from me, and if you feel it's because you're no longer whole and perfect for me, well, I'll show you that you're wrong by making you get up on your feet again ... the only problem is, that is NOT the whole problem for her. So he HAS the strength and the confidence in their love, and she has lost it ... partly because of the loss of her legs and even more so because of what happened that night. Both the wounds are festering inside her ... and both are feeding off the other ... which one has to heal first is the issue - whether her getting up on her feet again will bring back her confidence, or whether her faith in him and their love will finally push her to walk again. And I think it's the second ... but how he's going to do this, I really don't know ...



@ diya....when i meant the same boat i meant d day of valentine, he d eternal emotional cripple was crippled further when d one lease of life in his life walked out on him n he was left all alone as usual......when gunji went into coma her soul was alive , her heart n mind had blanked, so in many she didnt allow ne one to reach her or touch her even d hurt.....but samrat wud have lived thousand deaths n his dire helplessness n his inability to let her go was what brought a new lease of life to her soul.......she's now on wheel chair but my point is its accidental and docs r have green signal that she can walk n its a possibility which doent require a miracle ....all it requires is the will power n love to believ in urself n belive in d reason to fight this out.....according to me the very reason sam is pushing her to walk first is becoz that in sumway created further damage to the emotional turmoil gunji was already going thru......if he professe his love n tries to make her understand that her disability in no ways means she's ne less beuatiful than before for him, she will only miscostrue it as pity n burdening.....coz her inability is overriding the pain of her heart....this inability is sumthing that made her come to a conclusion that she's not worthy of sam's love coz she's not equal to sammy nemore....even when she tells her di first why she refused to acknowledge their love to her bauji, the reason she gave was she does not want sammmy to change just for her sake, he has accept n belive in n want d marriage for himself n themselves, then only they will be equals.....

but post holi, this new idea of pity for her own self or her situations, where she sees herself unequal to samrat is making her create a new tangent to push samrat to sumone else......i keep wondering when a girl who has so much love to give in herself y does she fail to love her own self...coz they say it right when they claim
"love oneself first then everything else will fall in line even if times are at its worst,"
but when u pity urself u have not loved urself enuf right or have stopped loving urself altogether?...i guess d only answer i can satisfy myself is with the fact that more than physical disability sammy's desertion created a hole in her heart, a vacuum that she's finding tough to fill, doesn't know how to live him and cannot accept that she cant live without him....stranger r d ways of love.......

dis is the very reason that sam is pushing her to walk first, coz when she does that she will atleast see herself as equal to him n then he can make her understand that he was lost n burnt out by his past,

but as long as she's there with him he will brave any number of fights
even d most deepest fear of his, getting married,
not because she wants it but because with only her it seems ever right
n to make her understand n achieve the emotional completeness he wants for themselves
he feels she needs to see herself physically complete or else everything he says is gonna go unheard by her

thats prob d reason, i think he wants to give her d confidence she lost in herself first n then an opportunity to explore and rediscover the eternal beauty of their love which has always been there but just playing hide n seek as they sail thru d this emotional roller coaster ride of fate but whichever way when they emerge from this, they better seal their togetherness for once n all mind heart n soul, coz this a fight of lifetime for both of them so it shud forge a basement that nothing ever in future can touch it

There can be storms in ur life n it better be there or else smooth sailing will drown u with its comfort before u realize, but when the storms rage at u, fight it with ur love than with ur insecurities....

d result u crave while bracing the storms of life shud be that let fate take over anything
but leave me my beloved's love , the one who always n only ever, meant to me everything

@ bold diya....laods of hugs to u for that.🤗...u have snatched d words out of me n left nothing for me to say dear...thats precisely been d base of my POV all along 😉

PS: diya, mads, ayesha, naveen, yashi, gia, gina....this has been the most fulfilling discusiion i have had on SAJAN so far coz while it allowed me to live my POV, i cud also enjoy all ur POVs even when they were so diff from mine, n when d perspectives r diff, u have a wider dimension to understand n realize diff angles of the same issue u face....so loads of hugs to u all 🤗
Edited by meens1981 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: DiyaS



no meens, he isn't in the same boat ... for one, he's not the one sitting in the wheelchair , and secondly, and this is the analysis I was actually thinking about last night and never got down to doing 😕 .... HIS love has been through the test of fire ... he's seen his Chashmish slipping away from him, and then come back as though by a miracle ... the feeling of loss he had when she walked away from him, was NOTHING compared to the feeling that he had when she lay in that hospital bed fighting for her life ... now he KNOWS that whatever happens, he cannot lose her, he will do everything he can to get her back, because losing her is not an option he can live with. Hi vulnerability when she walked away from him, was NOTHING compared to the helplessness and sheer despair he felt when he thought she was dying ...

And I think that is what has given him strength to fight even his own precious Chashmish ... earlier he used to treat her with kid gloves, if she said anything, it was - yes, you're right, you can never be wrong, but now he's saying that no, if you send me away from you, it's wrong, because even death cannot take you away from me, and if you feel it's because you're no longer whole and perfect for me, well, I'll show you that you're wrong by making you get up on your feet again ... the only problem is, that is NOT the whole problem for her. So he HAS the strength and the confidence in their love, and she has lost it ... partly because of the loss of her legs and even more so because of what happened that night. Both the wounds are festering inside her ... and both are feeding off the other ... which one has to heal first is the issue - whether her getting up on her feet again will bring back her confidence, or whether her faith in him and their love will finally push her to walk again. And I think it's the second ... but how he's going to do this, I really don't know ...



@ bold : diya even I think its the second ... because the second is what defines her inner strength the best ..

because as far as the first is considered, I dont think her getting back on her feet wil in any way heal the deep emotional wound that she has .. it may heal it upto a certain extent, but not completely .. she may admire and accept samrat's selfless love for her and may get back to him..but the 'unconditional' nature of his love she has not seen yet .. and for that, he needs to convince her abt it .. because, and this is not the case jus wit gunjan, its the case wit every man..until and unless one BELIEVES in what he is doing and why he is doing, one cannot derive complete strength to do it and win in tht situation .. and right now, gunji doesnt believ in why or what she is doing, right now, she is doing it jus for him .. but unless she starts doing it FOR HER..and not for her because she has to do it for him, jus for her( <<-- there's a slight diff b/w the two ).. so unless she starts doing for HER herself, nobody..not even sam can help her ..

and or THIS to happen, he has to tell her and convince her that he is not trying to recover her because its what HE wants..but because its what SHE SHOULD WANT .. and even if she is not successful in it, that in no way wil hamper or demean the love he has for her ..

after all, they say that ..

Life's battles dont always go to the stronger or faster man, but sooner or later, the man who wins..is the man who thinks he CAN ..

now sam, has always always thought in this manner "I can.." and thats why he has been winning most of these battles .. even now he thinks "we can and we will.." and hence he wil win this too ... but gunji doesnt even want to go to "IF I win.." toh forget "I can.." and he has to change this "If" to a "can" and then to a "will" .. and for THIS, he needs to talk to her...try te heal her emotionally .. atleast a little .. and then heal her physically .. and the rest of her emotional wound wil start healing automatically once she derives the strength to heal physically ...

so right now, the two wounds are feasting off each other..but IF it happens like v are saying it to be, then the two wounds infact wil cure each other ..
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: --Pari--

OMG OMG madsssssssssssssssssss🤗 just cant get over with it!!!

hayeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee today ..........OMG shit shit...............I have no words to express...........I have butterflies in my stomach🤣...............thier love sooooooooooooooo unique, pure and unconditional!!!😳😳😳😳😳! OMG...........................Sajan.............hayeee..........JANUABLE!!!!!! sooooooooooo proud of them!!!! today's epi was AWSOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
and that princess thing.................so UNIQUE and beautiful!!!!!! awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww......m so touched!!!!! I fall in love with them one more time.................just cant get over with it!!!😍

Pari...Mads..kitni aarz ho gaye the..jabse mein tum logo se baath karke.😳.infact i dont ususally come online here,.,sometimes nowaydays i visit DMG too..but cn i ever forget or leave my dear family here..never!!😃 tum log kahan thi...missing u so much..hey anyone seeing DMG ..pm me ok,.wnat to discuss it too with u..then the topic on sajan..hai mar gayi..nahi maar dali..kya topic or beautifully presented by u mads..kya style hai...aajkal bahut depressed feel kar rahi thi the way gunjan is reactring towards sam..😭so this topics himmat ur takkkt diathi hai..ohh i missed u!!😳
superb!i am with u this!😉
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: mads


awww u left already 😭😭

LOVED ur post ayesha .. 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗 I want to LIKE it million times !!

Awww thank u Mads, for liking my POV. U're a sweetheart !!! 🤗🤗
Its a proven fact (well i find it to be so) that "when u laugh, everyone lauhs wid u, but when u cry, u cry alone". Here also, v see Gunjan smiling, interacting wid her friends, trying to b all normal, and in return everyone is also smiling with her, helping her etc. But wat no one is realizing is that its her heart that is crying, and so, its crying alone. On the face of it, she strong, but inside, she has lost everything.
I'm not at all saying that Sam is not wid her. I mean the way he's looking after her is extremely touching, commendable, lovable, januable etc. etc. etc. But, he too is focusing on the recovery of her feet and NOT that of her heart. That day she said "mein pehle hi tunhare laik nahin this, aur ab tum kyon apna time mujhpe zaya ker rahey ho", and yest. she said, "agar tum mera koi kaam kerna chahtey ho to mujhe akela chod do", bcoz when i'll b alone, atleast my tears will be the companion of my heart. They will share its pain.
Having said this, i believe that Sam has the solution to this problem. Afterall, he is her SOULMATE. If she's in pain, he's also suffering every min. and is making every effort to make her feel better, to bring her back to life, on her own feet. But, i guess what he needs to do is not only to focus on her physical recovery, but he needs to try and heal the wound that has made her lose the will, the will to live, the will to love, the will to smile not just for others, but for herself, i.e. from her heart. And when her heart will smile, she will automatically stand, walk, and run on her own feet and that too towards her destination, i.e. his Sam..
P.S.: This is purely my POV. If i've hurt anyone's feelings coz of it, i'm extremely sorry.
Edited by ayesha_80 - 15 years ago

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