YIKESS !!! SaJan are SO JANUABLE!! - Page 34

Originally posted by: princessyashika

Oh my goodness...meenu meri jaana..u rock as always...u beautified our common thoughts with ur golden words...!! !i so so agree with u....especially the lines in red.Yes its so true...she has an ever lovable di....a bauji whose aspirations she has to fulfill.....she is just not samrat's grlfrnd or his soulmate...but a sister and a daughter as well...thats where the cvs lost the grip.They shudnt have shown gunjan not even trying 2 stand up only coz she has lost samrat's love on that nite.what abt nupur's n bauji's love...they r with her since she came to this world!!! This was gunjan's fighting spirit when she came from maurena...the ideals n aspirations of her bauji and the support of her di....that was what made her self confident enough to oppose a guy at whom all gals of the college used to go mad.I want to see taht gunjan..if not for samrat..she has to it for all those ppl who love her so much n wish to see her stand on her feet.
and one more thing...i totally totally disagree....that since gunjan is a human being as well after going thru so much of pain she expects him to ensure things to her so that she can come out of her vulnerabilities...NOWAYS I DISAGREE BIGTIME.....she knows samrat inside out even better than him...that was the reason she supported suhani even when she knew that sam will never like that...coz internally she knew samrat's heart longs for a family....
similarly she here also knows how much samrat loves her....n so she neeeds no assurances n reassurances...but rather she is keeping herself away from him coz she doesnt want him to be bothered a single bit coz of her....she wants his lyf to be picture perfect in every way whether she is a part of that frame or not.Saying that she expects him to tell that whether he will be with her even if she doesnt walk is equivalent to making a mockery of gunjan's love itself.

Originally posted by: princessyashika

exactly mads thats what i am saying.....YES she knows he does....com'on its we only who say that gunjan understands samrat more than him...then it simply means she understands his love as well.and he has alraedy done more than one thing to prove that...he said we r planning to marry.....does this mean he plans to marry her only if she gets back on her feet.???..no!!! his these words cud have been enough for gunjan to understand his love..or else i must say she doesnt need any words to understand that he loves her or not.What all i am saying is....this is the same gunjan who understood that samrat needs his family even though he himself didnt realize that...then why r we now saying that she needs assurances n words from his side that yes i love u n i will be with u...gunjan bhushan doesnt n thats what actually cvs r showing...they r showing that she is doing all this to go away from him n not in expectation of any commitment.

Originally posted by: mads

@ blue : saying is very very VERY easy yashika .. but when u actually DO those things na .. its DAMN difficult .. and u may find this repetitive, BUT..her entire life HAS changed because of the 13th feb accident .. its because of her paralysis that her entire life has changed .. she is NOT the same anymore and thats the harsh reality..so no matter how much ever anyone tries to deny it, she wil never accept that fact tht she is stil the very same .. and why shud she? she IS different from the rest now..her legs hav lost sensation..she is not able to walk again, not able to run again..not able to hide in his arms again..not able to walk away from him shyly again..not able to sit behind him on his bike again..and ALLL these things hav changed for her so suddenly and soo drastically .. and SHE is seeing all of them because those are the things that she CANNOT do .. EVER .. because she doesnt know ther is a hope for recovery, does she? and all of her strength that she has, is gone in ACCEPTING all those sudden changes in her life and not only accepting them, but living them soo happily that she does not hav the strength to hope for MORE .. or even THINK abt anything else .. and she is doing a commendable job considering tht she has only jus accepting this harsh reality and fate of life ..

now, what he needs to assure her is, even tho she is incomplete, to the outer world..she is complete to him .. so what if she cant walk WITH him .. he wil sit down besides her .. so what if she cant run with him .. he wil take her wit him and run .. so what if she cant hide in his arms anymore..he wil hide in her arms and complete her .. so what if she cannot walk at all, he wil carry her for the rest of his life .. and carry her not because she needs it, but because he WANTS it .. so what if she cant sit wit him on his bike anymore..he wil get rid of his bike henceforth and make use of a car .. and thes are the things that cannot be assumed by her..because how can she impose such conditions on him..even IF she knows at the moment tht his love is unconditional ( which she doesnt, acc to me .. acc to u she does ) ...? doesnt he hav a life of his own? but its upto him to make her realise that yes, even tho he has a life of his own..she is a very important and beautiful part of it, which he cannot live without!

@ green : I think after what I wrote above, I dont need to justofy gunjan on this ..

and this has got NOTHING to do abt the marriage issue .. she has accepted that issue long back..and even forgave sam for that ...as for why she says them to b "best friends" after that is because she doesnt want him to change his beliefs for her, which is fair enuf..isnt he ready to sacrifice his beliefs for her? and isnt tht selfless on his part? then even her thinking tht he shudnt change his beliefs coz of her is selfless on her part .. how and when they wil sort out THIS..is immaterial .. because that acc to me is a VERY minor thing right now ..

Originally posted by: mads

@ blue : saying is very very VERY easy yashika .. but when u actually DO those things na .. its DAMN difficult .. and u may find this repetitive, BUT..her entire life HAS changed because of the 13th feb accident .. its because of her paralysis that her entire life has changed .. she is NOT the same anymore and thats the harsh reality..so no matter how much ever anyone tries to deny it, she wil never accept that fact tht she is stil the very same .. and why shud she? she IS different from the rest now..her legs hav lost sensation..she is not able to walk again, not able to run again..not able to hide in his arms again..not able to walk away from him shyly again..not able to sit behind him on his bike again..and ALLL these things hav changed for her so suddenly and soo drastically ..
mads for once i disagree
coz waht about smarta's love for her that has not changed at all.....shudnt that be reason enuf to fight for her wellbeing....is sam's love was complete she wud never feel reduced to this extenst subtracting d emotional quotient....n where is her real self....no doubt samrat rejected d marriage proposal....but did he reject her no....he assured her that he wanted a lifetime with her n only her but not thru marriage....if she was emotionally crippled, so was samrat coz the girl whom he belived knowss him inside out was asking of him d very thing his heart can never bear to give....d gunshot was a freak accident for which samrat held himself responsible inpsite of that not being d case....he's fighting her fears even n trying to revive her convictions when she has given up on them easliy....n i will repeat wat i said physical ailment cannot tain the true love or purity of ur soul.....truel love n soul seek what ?....physical perfection.....no ways ...they seek emotional completeness...which sam had reassured...is she's was fighting sam's rejection so was sam fighitn his inhibitions being questioned by one who means everything to him...d very fact the stage has come where he's being questioned by one for whom he will win all anweres is enuf to break him as well....gunjan's physical inability cannot blind her to her love.....she has no right to sacrifice this love without samrat's consensus coz they have been in it together....n love n gown only when u r equals ...u cannot decide for ur partner whats best even if its in d name of self sacrifice...it is olely n utterly their right whether they want to move away or not just its ur own right that u want to move wasy coz physically u r no more equals

wat about d time when she promised sammmy that she will not lie to him even if its for his own goodness after suhani's epsosde....she telling him d biggest lie he can ever bear to face that she is not going to be with him anymore when all her heart craves is just d opposite....our debate here is not gunjan's ailment....its about what path shud she choose ...with samrat's love recover n gain d power of legs n in d journey eacjh forgive d misunderstanding they r victims of ....or away from samrat where d only result is her going inot further depression...coz if u rem u mentioned in one of ur post when she thot sam had been lost to her during sheena's episode she cud not move, then now when is physically n mentally down how will she ever recover from this blow which shes adamant about delivering to her ownself...

hey sorry mads its just my POV......🤗

and SHE is seeing all of them because those are the things that she CANNOT do .. EVER .. because she doesnt know ther is a hope for recovery, does she? and all of her strength that she has, is gone in ACCEPTING all those sudden changes in her life and not only accepting them, but living them soo happily that she does not hav the strength to hope for MORE .. or even THINK abt anything else .. and she is doing a commendable job considering tht she has only jus accepting this harsh reality and fate of life ..

now, what he needs to assure her is, even tho she is incomplete, to the outer world..she is complete to him .. so what if she cant walk WITH him .. he wil sit down besides her .. so what if she cant run with him .. he wil take her wit him and run .. so what if she cant hide in his arms anymore..he wil hide in her arms and complete her .. so what if she cannot walk at all, he wil carry her for the rest of his life .. and carry her not because she needs it, but because he WANTS it .. so what if she cant sit wit him on his bike anymore..he wil get rid of his bike henceforth and make use of a car .. and thes are the things that cannot be assumed by her..because how can she impose such conditions on him..even IF she knows at the moment tht his love is unconditional ( which she doesnt, acc to me .. acc to u she does ) ...? doesnt he hav a life of his own? but its upto him to make her realise that yes, even tho he has a life of his own..she is a very important and beautiful part of it, which he cannot live without!

@ green : I think after what I wrote above, I dont need to justofy gunjan on this ..

and this has got NOTHING to do abt the marriage issue .. she has accepted that issue long back..and even forgave sam for that ...as for why she says them to b "best friends" after that is because she doesnt want him to change his beliefs for her, which is fair enuf..isnt he ready to sacrifice his beliefs for her? and isnt tht selfless on his part? then even her thinking tht he shudnt change his beliefs coz of her is selfless on her part .. how and when they wil sort out THIS..is immaterial .. because that acc to me is a VERY minor thing right now ..

Originally posted by: meens1981

mads for once i disagree
coz waht about smarta's love for her that has not changed at all.....shudnt that be reason enuf to fight for her wellbeing....is sam's love was complete she wud never feel reduced to this extenst subtracting d emotional quotient....n where is her real self....no doubt samrat rejected d marriage proposal....but did he reject her no....he assured her that he wanted a lifetime with her n only her but not thru marriage....if she was emotionally crippled, so was samrat coz the girl whom he belived knowss him inside out was asking of him d very thing his heart can never bear to give....d gunshot was a freak accident for which samrat held himself responsible inpsite of that not being d case....he's fighting her fears even n trying to revive her convictions when she has given up on them easliy....n i will repeat wat i said physical ailment cannot tain the true love or purity of ur soul.....truel love n soul seek what ?....physical perfection.....no ways ...they seek emotional completeness...which sam had reassured...is she's was fighting sam's rejection so was sam fighitn his inhibitions being questioned by one who means everything to him...d very fact the stage has come where he's being questioned by one for whom he will win all anweres is enuf to break him as well....gunjan's physical inability cannot blind her to her love.....she has no right to sacrifice this love without samrat's consensus coz they have been in it together....n love n gown only when u r equals ...u cannot decide for ur partner whats best even if its in d name of self sacrifice...it is olely n utterly their right whether they want to move away or not just its ur own right that u want to move wasy coz physically u r no more equals

wat about d time when she promised sammmy that she will not lie to him even if its for his own goodness after suhani's epsosde....she telling him d biggest lie he can ever bear to face that she is not going to be with him anymore when all her heart craves is just d opposite....our debate here is not gunjan's ailment....its about what path shud she choose ...with samrat's love recover n gain d power of legs n in d journey eacjh forgive d misunderstanding they r victims of ....or away from samrat where d only result is her going inot further depression...coz if u rem u mentioned in one of ur post when she thot sam had been lost to her during sheena's episode she cud not move, then now when is physically n mentally down how will she ever recover from this blow which shes adamant about delivering to her ownself...

hey sorry mads its just my POV......🤗

Originally posted by: DiyaS

I agree with u 100% that Gunjan's inner strength is more then anyone's in the gang, but she is not super women sweetie, she has her lows too, and whatever strength she had, she has used all of it in accepting her condition and staying strong for her family, friends and Samrat. U said that it demeans that inner strength to see her giving up, despite Sam trying so hard, but honey what happened that valentine night crippled her emotionally, Sam needs to help her recover emotionally first before he helps her recover physically !!

and THAT is exactly what sam needs to show gunjan .. he needs to show her that his love for her is not dependent on her recovering again, but it is unconditional..we KNOW it is..but does she? look, when a person is disabled, its not jus a physical issue..its a mental issue more than a physical one .. u tend to think the worse of scenarios .. and its THOSE fears, those insecurities and scenarios that sam needs to forever vanish from her head...because ther is no need for them ..

@mads and Naveen ... I agree with both of you completely ... it's not the physical paralysis that is crippling her, it's the emotional upheaval that she went through just before that ... physically she could start walking tomorrow, but what happened on valentine's night shattered her and that inner core of confidence that has always been there for her ... that strength took her through a lot of events, but this last one shattered her ... earlier, she had never allowed herself to hope for samrat's love, but now, when she thought she had it all, then she saw her world, and all her dreams slipping through her fingers ... do you remember HOW numb WE all felt that night ... now that the whole drama with JD and Yash is over, all those events are flooding back, and numbing her again ...
meens and yashi, you say that she should feel confident about samrat's love for her ... but it's that confidence that was shattered on Valentine's night ... and till they talk about that, it's not going to mend ...