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Kanu K

@artizia

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 16 years ago

#61

dear , i must say where were u hiding for so long ?

this was much needed.... i dont reply frequently on this forum but care enuf to go through sensible posts .

i have started to feel that its not far when this forum will split into 2, sajan and mayur;s

why cant ppl simply enjoy what track is going on rather than going if its sajan overpowering mayur or vice versa.

Most of the active members here are from dmg section ..and i guess the mods as well .
no wonder its the same environment on the two of them .......

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Kanu K

@artizia

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 16 years ago

#62

Originally posted by: pyaridilwalino1

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Shweta

@pyaridilwalino1

Dazzler

Posted: 16 years ago

#63

Originally posted by: KehanT
dear , i must say where were u hiding for so long ?

this was much needed.... i dont reply frequently on this forum but care enuf to go through sensible posts .

i have started to feel that its not far when this forum will split into 2, sajan and mayur;s

why cant ppl simply enjoy what track is going on rather than going if its sajan overpowering mayur or vice versa.

Most of the active members here are from dmg section ..and i guess the mods as well .
no wonder its the same environment on the two of them .......

dil garden garden ho gaya...tuadi post vekh kar! kitthe ho!!!???? 🤗

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btw I agree Keertu ji! When a post is made many times the topic starter's friends that are in agreement get into a fight of words with those in disagreement, and this goes vice versa as well!

Edited by pyaridilwalino1 - 16 years ago

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Shweta

@pyaridilwalino1

Dazzler

Posted: 16 years ago

#64

Originally posted by: Kavya_KraZQueen
@Shweta: I would just like to clarify on the humor bit- by humor I meant spoofing. When we folks spoof or criticize characters in a fun way, they are reported. About the rest of your answers, I am sorry but I am not really convinced by your answers, neither me nor my friends have ever started this whole 'groupism'. And we had to resort to sarcasm for our defense and in retort, we had to refer to our posts as "sensible and intelligent " because of them being labeled as "-ve" by some members who never got tired of passing snide remarks at us. First, they tried to force their views on us in a condescending tone and when we expressed that we did not like to be told how to view things they had become kinda bitter n vengeful towards us. I do not know if you had been a silent member or not back then but this issue dates back to the time of MJHT Holi. We kept ignoring their posts and stopped replying to them but they'd never stopped taunting us.

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And I will be honest Shweta- the only message I got from this forum was "you are welcome only if you praise the creative, be grateful to her or drool over the characters/actors else you will be treated as an outcast for daring to criticize the show or the creative "

Kavya, as far as I know IBL is still on the forum right? Isn't that where the spoofing goes on? Do correct me if I'm wrong. I had been a silent member during those times as well, but I do not remember as clearly as what happened because I was not a regular viewer of the forums. Anyway I just want to say if everything is going to be taken "tit for tat" then really nothing will come out of it. The report button is for everyone to use and if you really feel that snide remarks are being made about you then do report the post. That seems to be the only solution because how many times will we concern ourselves with "I didn't start it you did" defenses? I think nobody can play vicitim here because both parties are equally responsible for the treatment of each other's posts.

I can understand where you have gotten that message from and I also disagree with only praising creatives, and only looking at the physical appearances of characters rather than the characters actual personality and actions. In the same breath, I also disagree with name calling for creatives because they are human just like all of us. I have seen posts demeaning the creatives by calling them low-standard, unintelligent, etc. And really if I was a creative I would not come to a forum, which would resort to such tactics of getting their voices heard. If this is the way, then really it's not the right way. And most of the times people can tell when a praise is really just being said to be said and not really genuine. Like I said it's the approach. I, myself, have criticized on not only MJHT, but also other forums and have involved myself in healthy discussions. I have been received and have responded respectfully to agreements and disagreements. In the end if you use a respectful tone at all times, it won't be long till you gain the respect you have given. (this being said in a general way, not specifically to you, Kavya)

Edited by pyaridilwalino1 - 16 years ago

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Faz

@maybe-just

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 16 years ago

#65

Originally posted by: Kavya_KraZQueen

Will MJHT Forum EVER allow freedom of expression to ALL its members? Can anyone boldly present his/her contrasting and criticizing views on this forum by staying within IF COC, without having to fret about being preached or reported or getting affected by the snide remarks being passed at him/her in a highly inappropriate and rude tone by people who do not agree with that him/her? Can an intelligent viewer expect his/her opinion to be respected here?
Why do some people find the need to present their views by debasing the "-ve" views? Is it a CRIME to be sensible on this forum and make a post/topic that is intelligent?
Why do we find contesting topics/polls cropping up immediately after some members make criticizing topics/polls when things never work the other way round i.e. wrt praising polls/topics? Why are people classified into "+ves" and "-ves" just because their perspectives differ? Why are threads expressing honest opinions with intellectually stimulating discussions, shut down very frequently or warned?
Why is humor looked at, with contempt here? 😕 😕

Mods: If you intend to close this thread, please answer my questions and close it or kindly arrange for a separate thread where these issues can be discussed and sorted before shutting this down! Peace on the forum is important and ALL of us are for it but not at the cost of deriding "-ve" views or curtailing the freedom of expression which is very well within IF COC.

I really respect the moderators but I will be able to preserve my respect for them if and only if they care to answer my questions convincingly without being biased towards any 'group'. Hopefully, one will understand that I am only trying to sort out the issues on this forum so that peace prevails.

Thank You

Hun I totally agree with you, you have a right to express what you feel, absolutely no doubt about it! 😉

But you also have to think of it from another point of view, now I'm not telling you that you should do as I'm saying, no way, there's two sides to a coin always, so you should ALL consider it, wHether your +ve or -ve about the events taking place in MJHT!

When one person is happy and positive about something then the negativity around may bring the person down, so that's probably why people wanted to express how they felt and made posts which would encourage the positivity around! But that does not mean that they bash your views, I totally agree like them you have have freedom too!

So as you have a right to express your feelings, you have to see that others don't want to be brought down because of it!

Now I'm not taking sides as I find it much easier to understand both point of views, being negative and positive! So please don't bash my opinion! I'm pretty much netural when it comes to stuff like this and I'm just trying to explain! 😊

Hope you all read this and try to understand what I'm saying! Please do read it carefully!😊😉 Hope this helped!

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Gaganjot

@Gagan-06

Trailblazer

+ 7

Posted: 16 years ago

#66

Originally posted by: Kavya_KraZQueen

Will MJHT Forum EVER allow freedom of expression to ALL its members? Kavya, It has always been allowed. If you show me ten topics that were closed then I could show you ten topics that are still open. When certain posts drift away from the actual content that is when we have to step in or when discussions cannot remain healthy. I wish everyone would understand that we are not restricting criticim, but we are trying to keep a peaceful atmosphere. Can anyone boldly present his/her contrasting and criticizing views on this forum by staying within IF COC, without having to fret about being preached or reported or getting affected by the snide remarks being passed at him/her in a highly inappropriate and rude tone by people who do not agree with that person? I would like to say that "taali eik haath se nahin bajthi" I do believe your opinions should be appreciated as well as others. A mutual understanding is needed as well as maturity. I would hope when certain things happen instead of retaliating that report feature is used. Can an intelligent viewer expect his/her opinion to be respected here? Not only an intelligent viewer, but everyone can expect his or her opinion to be respected. Why do some people find the need to present their views by debasing the "-ve" views? I could say the same about positive views as well. Why is when someone likes the show then they are referred to as insensible? This has been an ongoing issue and we have been trying our best to resolve this. We get eaten alive from all sides. If only a few members would step up and try to help us out by reporting members who start with creating rifts instead of indulging themselves into arguments. Is it a CRIME to be sensible on this forum and make a post/topic that is intelligent? No Why do we find contesting topics/polls cropping up immediately after some members make criticizing topics/polls when things never work the other way round i.e. wrt praising polls/topics? Why are people classified into "+ves" and "-ves" just because their perspectives differ? If everyone can have a fresh start and start respecting each other's view and utilizing report feature... I feel we can stop this. Sorry to say, but no one is even trying to help us stop this. Everyone is loving the game of going to other CCs or FCs and talking about how they bash one another. Why are threads expressing honest opinions with intellectually stimulating discussions, shut down very frequently or warned? Again, if you look from our point of view... we do not think that way. You see that a glass is half empty and i view that same glass as half full. I said this earlier and I will stick to it ... I try my level best to allow as much freedom, but i also want peace and healthy discussions.
Why is humor looked at, with contempt here? 😕 😕 Is this being referref to IBL? I am going to make this clear again... IBL is still here and will remain as long as everyone cooperates. All we asked for is chatting to stop. Infact we have allowed much more.. When i had first given permission for IBL.. I was told that it was a gallery where members will post their songs.. then from a gallery it became a regular discussion posts.. member started to post their views.. again we allowed it ..

Firstly Kavya, you knew this type of topic is not allowed MJHT Discussion(?) Forum(?) still it is made.

Nevermind..

I want to say a few things while i am at it...

When the question arises about abusing report button.. I want to say that no one can abuse the report feature. I believe we are mature enough to go into detail and review it. I am not saying we do not make mistakes... but again feel free to contact us..

If we took action on every post that was reported.. i believe all the topics would have been closed on this forum.

Kavya, only if members did not view report feature as telling on others, but as helping out the mods find the few selective members who are creating rifts between members.

Edited by Gaganjot.S - 16 years ago

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Gaganjot

@Gagan-06

Trailblazer

+ 7

Posted: 16 years ago

#67

I will not close the topic so we can discuss this here, but i hope we will maintain a mutual understanding and respect for eachother.

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nehlove

@nehlove

Sparkler

+ 2

Posted: 16 years ago

#68

Kavya, yet again I see this topic being closed pretty soon.. Let's see how long does this still stay open..

Edited by nehlove - 16 years ago

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Rishani

@FreeBird03

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 16 years ago

#69

Originally posted by: nehlove
Kavya, yet again I see this topic being closed pretty soon.. Its exactly what you have mentioned in all your points.. I don't see any warnings in the topic where they directly take diggs at the people who criticize by calling them "gang of 10 members" or "-tives" but here you get warned... Sigh.. the biasness of this forum still amazes me..

ummm...sorry to interrupt.. but neha just keep urself in gagan/preeti's position once...
they do try to maintain peace.. n i think the forum has fair mods..i dont think they are biased at all...
they also have to follow IF COC... thats it.. they try their best!

the whole forum is divided into two groups.. its a vicious cycle..u blame them..they blame u...
n then everyone blame the mods.. its unfair imo!

Edited by ManaliS - 16 years ago

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nehlove

@nehlove

Sparkler

+ 2

Posted: 16 years ago

#70

I agree Manali.. and I am not blaming the mods for everything but you know Kavya here has gotten a warning... What about the "+ive" posts that have been made in retaliation of this one directly attacking certain members of the forum by calling them "Gang of 10 members"... why are those topics still open and unwarned?? That is my question. If I would see a warning posted in atleast one such topic (from this past weekend) I will take back my words...

And IBL was basically shut down and thrown out of the forum because of the diggs made at the characters.. NOT at the actors.. This forum cannot tolerate humor and a joke in the right spirit..

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Thank you.. Gagan.. I TAKE MY WORDS BACK...

Edited by nehlove - 16 years ago

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