Starting to see where this track is going. - Page 8

Originally posted by: Anu1975

@bold He is engaging two woman because he wants it that way…I again say he has no compulsion, he is doing by choice…if he has a bit of integrity left in him, he should have told Pallavi the truth and accepted that he feels responsible towards Esha…and he can’t let her go…Pallavi openly chose Raghav as her husband and also chose to help Mandar..she was open and honest about her decisions that honesty is missing in Raghav, which makes him untrustworthy…

This whole narrative that he is acting out of Guilt while getting affected by Esha with every passing minute at the same time keeping Pallavi at Dark is a charade..

Right now the way I see it…He needs Pallavi and desires Esha…Pallavi zaroorath hai and Esha quaish….

And this is so unfair on Pallavi at multiple levels…her dignity honor, trust, love and her right to her life is being compromised and she has no clue about it…

R is still not over E...the whole execution of track indicates that ..the writers have messed up....it getting worse day by day...now I don't watch it properly...at times on the tv and do my work. But I feel sikku needs a lesson he can't take fans for granted atleast speed up the track...the whole R taking care of P was done in one episode...which could be shown in detail.we all would have been happy but we got cheater R in detail...I can't stand E. And I am at loss at P behavior how stupid she is shown.. reality my foot

Originally posted by: Trina2021

Love uou a lot for those underlined lines . Yes Raghav wants Pals bcoz of the fact that she’s his wife not bcoz he loves her only

Raghav wants Pals bcoz she’s his obsession and he’s obsessed about having her in his life as his wife by his side .

I noticed he kept saying that I’ll mot ruin my married life for anything , I’ll be the best husband for you Pallavi , I’ll give her her rights as a wife etc bcoz for him she’s the wife only and his responsibility towards her comes from the fact that he took marriage vows with her and he has to abide by them . As for Easha he chose her for himself and now that’ he’s back and told him about her sob stories his hidden emotions for her is alive again and NO ITS NOT LOVE per se but he feels responsible for her . Now the only thing that’s keeping him away from being with Easha is his marriage vows to Pallavi and he has to be freed from this obligation in order to introspect and choose the one his heart desires to be with . No strings attached , no obligations , no pressure nothing it should be his choice only . Now we know who his heart belongs to but at This moment Raghav is divided between the two . Pals Raghav and Eashas Raghu and he has to pick a side bcoz right now in a way he’s doing wrong with both women in his life . Yes Ofcourse more towards Pallavi bcoz she’s unaware of his actions now and it’s not fair to her and that’s why I want her to know the truth Bcoz it’s her right to choose the right path for herself as well after she knows the truth . Storyline is great but the execution is just horrible and that’s the reason I’m unable to watch the episodes like b4 .
I also feel that alcohol track came from that only . Now I don’t know if Makers thought this way but we saw how RR was reacting when Pals was forcing him to leave alcohol and he also mentioned that he loves Pals for sure but at the same time he loves his alcohol Also and he cannot leave without it just like wont be able to leave with Pallavi also . His alcohol intakes were clouding his judgements but he was holding onto it hence Pals had to come out with a strategy to stop him from taking alcohol : he stopped but forcibly . Later she relented seeing his disturbed situation and that’s why Pals let him have it and he refused and chose her decision on his own . Now I don’t know how this track is going to go but if they show the track going this way with any cringe fest I’m game and might wanna reconsider watching the show again but if they decide to make it into 2 women fighting for a man I’m out for good .

Thanks for the tag but I completely agree to disagree with everything you have mentioned here.

If we are only remembering his dialogues we must remember Pallavi's too...

1. Tum mere liye project hi toh ho

2. Main tumhe aisa banana chahti hoon ki mujhe tums apna pati kehne main proud feel ho.

And there were many more such conflicting dialogues before. I have not judged pallavi on her dialogues, I won't judge Raghav here.

Sanctity of marriage was important to Raghav even before he confessed his love to her. LWR in very early days of marriage has come him to make him realize that Pallavi is now his wife and a part of his family. Love came a lot later but he knew that being his wife she had rights and he never shied away from acknowledging that.

There is no Raghu anymore. He has made it clear to her not once but many times. He doesn't even feel responsible for Esha. Did he ask her where she intends to go if she's leaving town? Did he call her when the security guard told him the house is locked? When Farhad informed him about the attack in thr market, his impulse was if Pallavi is fine? When Esha walked in with Pallavi, he asked her why was she here and when she replied where do I go, he said go where ever you want. When we specifically remember dialogues why do we forget these instances? Dialogues whether that of Pallavi or Raghav have been dubious since the very start!

In his inebriated state that night... When he had no semblance of his surrounding... He called for pallavi and not Esha. If he didn't love her she wouldn't be the name ruling his subconscious in that state. From that day until yesterday, his guilt is to having cheated on Pallavi... His apologies are for pallavi and Pallavi only.

If he feels morally obligated towards Esha that is because of the guilt tripping. If someone tells you they have suffered for you... Some sort of remorse is bound to seep in if we are humans.

Yes, he should have come out clean with her. But his fears are holding him back. He's wrong there. But I cant discount his insecurities... If someone is claustrophobic because of a traumatic childhood experience be don't judge them. So if Raghav is insecure and has abandonment issues because of his experience why shove him into inferno by being inconsiderate towards his issues.

Raghav was never a man to be put up on a pedestal. If we did so when it suited our convenience, that's our problem! Now we expect him, to act the way it suits us, that won't happen because that's not how this character was written. Raghav that I have seen and known has always chosen to be deceptive when it came to preserve his relationships and to avoid difficult conversations. When was he ever straightforward when it came about with his relationships? He is a character with flaws and I love him because he's neither perfect nor puts on a garb of perfection.

Today we are resorting to compare him to mandar... Just like some people back during Pallavi bashing days proposed to get Anjali back for Raghav or maybe the turn of track would advocate Esha a better partner for Raghav. Do we see how these two have brought happiness to each other? Do we see how they complete each other? And comparing him to Mandar seriously?? A man who murdered a girl in cold blood... Who's accused of matricide! I don't know what are we really pushing this at?

MISTAKES DONT DEFINE A PERSON! AND NO PERSON CAN BE JUDGED IN ISOLATION OF AN EVENT!

Mandar was vile because his intentions were evil. Raghav made an erroneous judgment of magnimous magnitude but his intent was never vile. And intentions define karma... Intentions define the quantum of punishment even on the legal grounds. Just when someone makes one error, we write that person off... Forget all good s/he has done in the past and wish them to burn in hell fire.

Yes he needs to suffer and work towards his redemption to make things right between him and Pallavi. He should have told Pallavi because that's her right to know. But he wants to save his marriage why is he wrong? His approach is wrong... Neither him nor his intentions! I don't even know how many times I have written this, but he's not an abusive husband or a habitual offender. He was violated that night and when we want him to suffer. It's like when Mandar drugged pallavi and had the unfortunate happened, we would have blamed Pallavi that this happened because she chose to stay at D house even when Raghav didn't approve of.

Two facts for me:

1. It's Pallavi's right to know the truth.

1. Raghav took pallavi for granted and chose to hide the truth from her. Whatever comes his way, he deserves to pay the price.

If Pallavi chooses to move on, I respect her, stand by her and support her.

If Pallavi chooses to forgive him, I will respect her and her strength of her character.

I will not judge her.

And just like that I don't judge Raghav.

I love them both equally for their imperfections and I am so glad they are not ideal or perfect.

Having said that, i respect your opinions but choose to stand by mine. Because for me relationships are not to be tossed at the slightest site of the storm.

I won't further comment on this thread.

Originally posted by: euphoric

Thanks for the tag but I completely agree to disagree with everything you have mentioned here.

If we are only remembering his dialogues we must remember Pallavi's too...

1. Tum mere liye project hi toh ho

2. Main tumhe aisa banana chahti hoon ki mujhe tums apna pati kehne main proud feel ho.

And there were many more such conflicting dialogues before. I have not judged pallavi on her dialogues, I won't judge Raghav here.

Sanctity of marriage was important to Raghav even before he confessed his love to her. LWR in very early days of marriage has come him to make him realize that Pallavi is now his wife and a part of his family. Love came a lot later but he knew that being his wife she had rights and he never shied away from acknowledging that.

There is no Raghu anymore. He has made it clear to her not once but many times. He doesn't even feel responsible for Esha. Did he ask her where she intends to go if she's leaving town? Did he call her when the security guard told him the house is locked? When Farhad informed him about the attack in thr market, his impulse was if Pallavi is fine? When Esha walked in with Pallavi, he asked her why was she here and when she replied where do I go, he said go where ever you want. When we specifically remember dialogues why do we forget these instances? Dialogues whether that of Pallavi or Raghav have been dubious since the very start!

In his inebriated state that night... When he had no semblance of his surrounding... He called for pallavi and not Esha. If he didn't love her she wouldn't be the name ruling his subconscious in that state. From that day until yesterday, his guilt is to having cheated on Pallavi... His apologies are for pallavi and Pallavi only.

If he feels morally obligated towards Esha that is because of the guilt tripping. If someone tells you they have suffered for you... Some sort of remorse is bound to seep in if we are humans.

Yes, he should have come out clean with her. But his fears are holding him back. He's wrong there. But I cant discount his insecurities... If someone is claustrophobic because of a traumatic childhood experience be don't judge them. So if Raghav is insecure and has abandonment issues because of his experience why shove him into inferno by being inconsiderate towards his issues.

Raghav was never a man to be put up on a pedestal. If we did so when it suited our convenience, that's our problem! Now we expect him, to act the way it suits us, that won't happen because that's not how this character was written. Raghav that I have seen and known has always chosen to be deceptive when it came to preserve his relationships and to avoid difficult conversations. When was he ever straightforward when it came about with his relationships? He is a character with flaws and I love him because he's neither perfect nor puts on a garb of perfection.

Today we are resorting to compare him to mandar... Just like some people back during Pallavi bashing days proposed to get Anjali back for Raghav or maybe the turn of track would advocate Esha a better partner for Raghav. Do we see how these two have brought happiness to each other? Do we see how they complete each other? And comparing him to Mandar seriously?? A man who murdered a girl in cold blood... Who's accused of matricide! I don't know what are we really pushing this at?

MISTAKES DONT DEFINE A PERSON! AND NO PERSON CAN BE JUDGED IN ISOLATION OF AN EVENT!

Mandar was vile because his intentions were evil. Raghav made an erroneous judgment of magnimous magnitude but his intent was never vile. And intentions define karma... Intentions define the quantum of punishment even on the legal grounds. Just when someone makes one error, we write that person off... Forget all good s/he has done in the past and wish them to burn in hell fire.

Yes he needs to suffer and work towards his redemption to make things right between him and Pallavi. He should have told Pallavi because that's her right to know. But he wants to save his marriage why is he wrong? His approach is wrong... Neither him nor his intentions! I don't even know how many times I have written this, but he's not an abusive husband or a habitual offender. He was violated that night and when we want him to suffer. It's like when Mandar drugged pallavi and had the unfortunate happened, we would have blamed Pallavi that this happened because she chose to stay at D house even when Raghav didn't approve of.

Two facts for me:

1. It's Pallavi's right to know the truth.

1. Raghav took pallavi for granted and chose to hide the truth from her. Whatever comes his way, he deserves to pay the price.

If Pallavi chooses to move on, I respect her, stand by her and support her.

If Pallavi chooses to forgive him, I will respect her and her strength of her character.

I will not judge her.

And just like that I don't judge Raghav.

I love them both equally for their imperfections and I am so glad they are not ideal or perfect.

Having said that, i respect your opinions but choose to stand by mine. Because for me relationships are not to be tossed at the slightest site of the storm.

I won't further comment on this thread.

Really you made a point appreciable the manner in which you have decoded the characters.

Loved it

MISTAKES DO DEFINE A PERSON….when the consequences of that is affecting an innocent and the one who committed the mistake fails to understand the plight of the victim and gets overwhelmed with his and only his emotions and acts accordingly…THATS SELFISHNESS NOT GUILT..

Even terrorist rapist murderers and every mistake crime sin committed under the sun have a reason and are triggered by circumstances…

A mistake crime sin should be judged by the actions of the offenders and held accountable for aftermath it brings it on others not on the understanding or guilt or plight of the Offender..

No one gets sloshed intentionally and drives rashly and kills people but still innocents have lost their life..so the offenders gets judged punished for the act and it’s consequences not for drivers intent, plight or guilt…

By definition, mistake/ crime and sin can't be equated and hence the question of intent.

Anyone who has seen the episode of the infamous night knows that Raghav was violated. A girl he trusted in, VIOLATED him, because she was in her senses when he was calling out for his wife in an inebriated state. That is a crime, and a sin. He is a victim to that extent.

Raghav trusting Esha and falling into the trap and hiding the truth from Pallavi is a mistake and he should pay for it. Not a single person defending Raghav has said otherwise. Everyone wants him to repent and change his behaviour.

As per any law, any crime committed is punished according to the intent of the accused and severity of the crime. The sentence for an accident, self defence, third degree murder, culpable homicide is different.

Hence, Raghav's punishment will be only commensurate to the extent of his indiscretion. I feel very bad for anyone who feels otherwise because MHRW is only going to disappoint them further. This is a story about Raghvi and they are the end game by hook or by crook. If i felt this way, I would cut down my losses in time as it will only get difficult to accept down the line. It's no point getting worked up over a fictional show.

Yes my thoughts too. How can he not do anything in drunk state with pallavi but manages to do something with Esha. I thibk she is using it to guilt him but not sure what he is feeling at the moment.

Originally posted by: Joyness

R is still not over E...the whole execution of track indicates that ..the writers have messed up....it getting worse day by day...now I don't watch it properly...at times on the tv and do my work. But I feel sikku needs a lesson he can't take fans for granted atleast speed up the track...the whole R taking care of P was done in one episode...which could be shown in detail.we all would have been happy but we got cheater R in detail...I can't stand E. And I am at loss at P behavior how stupid she is shown.. reality my foot

Originally posted by: euphoric

Thanks for the tag but I completely agree to disagree with everything you have mentioned here.

If we are only remembering his dialogues we must remember Pallavi's too...

1. Tum mere liye project hi toh ho

2. Main tumhe aisa banana chahti hoon ki mujhe tums apna pati kehne main proud feel ho.

And there were many more such conflicting dialogues before. I have not judged pallavi on her dialogues, I won't judge Raghav here.

Sanctity of marriage was important to Raghav even before he confessed his love to her. LWR in very early days of marriage has come him to make him realize that Pallavi is now his wife and a part of his family. Love came a lot later but he knew that being his wife she had rights and he never shied away from acknowledging that.

There is no Raghu anymore. He has made it clear to her not once but many times. He doesn't even feel responsible for Esha. Did he ask her where she intends to go if she's leaving town? Did he call her when the security guard told him the house is locked? When Farhad informed him about the attack in thr market, his impulse was if Pallavi is fine? When Esha walked in with Pallavi, he asked her why was she here and when she replied where do I go, he said go where ever you want. When we specifically remember dialogues why do we forget these instances? Dialogues whether that of Pallavi or Raghav have been dubious since the very start!

In his inebriated state that night... When he had no semblance of his surrounding... He called for pallavi and not Esha. If he didn't love her she wouldn't be the name ruling his subconscious in that state. From that day until yesterday, his guilt is to having cheated on Pallavi... His apologies are for pallavi and Pallavi only.

If he feels morally obligated towards Esha that is because of the guilt tripping. If someone tells you they have suffered for you... Some sort of remorse is bound to seep in if we are humans.

Yes, he should have come out clean with her. But his fears are holding him back. He's wrong there. But I cant discount his insecurities... If someone is claustrophobic because of a traumatic childhood experience be don't judge them. So if Raghav is insecure and has abandonment issues because of his experience why shove him into inferno by being inconsiderate towards his issues.

Raghav was never a man to be put up on a pedestal. If we did so when it suited our convenience, that's our problem! Now we expect him, to act the way it suits us, that won't happen because that's not how this character was written. Raghav that I have seen and known has always chosen to be deceptive when it came to preserve his relationships and to avoid difficult conversations. When was he ever straightforward when it came about with his relationships? He is a character with flaws and I love him because he's neither perfect nor puts on a garb of perfection.

Today we are resorting to compare him to mandar... Just like some people back during Pallavi bashing days proposed to get Anjali back for Raghav or maybe the turn of track would advocate Esha a better partner for Raghav. Do we see how these two have brought happiness to each other? Do we see how they complete each other? And comparing him to Mandar seriously?? A man who murdered a girl in cold blood... Who's accused of matricide! I don't know what are we really pushing this at?

MISTAKES DONT DEFINE A PERSON! AND NO PERSON CAN BE JUDGED IN ISOLATION OF AN EVENT!

Mandar was vile because his intentions were evil. Raghav made an erroneous judgment of magnimous magnitude but his intent was never vile. And intentions define karma... Intentions define the quantum of punishment even on the legal grounds. Just when someone makes one error, we write that person off... Forget all good s/he has done in the past and wish them to burn in hell fire.

Yes he needs to suffer and work towards his redemption to make things right between him and Pallavi. He should have told Pallavi because that's her right to know. But he wants to save his marriage why is he wrong? His approach is wrong... Neither him nor his intentions! I don't even know how many times I have written this, but he's not an abusive husband or a habitual offender. He was violated that night and when we want him to suffer. It's like when Mandar drugged pallavi and had the unfortunate happened, we would have blamed Pallavi that this happened because she chose to stay at D house even when Raghav didn't approve of.

Two facts for me:

1. It's Pallavi's right to know the truth.

1. Raghav took pallavi for granted and chose to hide the truth from her. Whatever comes his way, he deserves to pay the price.

If Pallavi chooses to move on, I respect her, stand by her and support her.

If Pallavi chooses to forgive him, I will respect her and her strength of her character.

I will not judge her.

And just like that I don't judge Raghav.

I love them both equally for their imperfections and I am so glad they are not ideal or perfect.

Having said that, i respect your opinions but choose to stand by mine. Because for me relationships are not to be tossed at the slightest site of the storm.

I won't further comment on this thread.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

By definition, mistake/ crime and sin can't be equated and hence the question of intent.

Anyone who has seen the episode of the infamous night knows that Raghav was violated. A girl he trusted in, VIOLATED him, because she was in her senses when he was calling out for his wife in an inebriated state. That is a crime, and a sin. He is a victim to that extent.

Raghav trusting Esha and falling into the trap and hiding the truth from Pallavi is a mistake and he should pay for it. Not a single person defending Raghav has said otherwise. Everyone wants him to repent and change his behaviour.

As per any law, any crime committed is punished according to the intent of the accused and severity of the crime. The sentence for an accident, self defence, third degree murder, culpable homicide is different.

Hence, Raghav's punishment will be only commensurate to the extent of his indiscretion. I feel very bad for anyone who feels otherwise because MHRW is only going to disappoint them further. This is a story about Raghvi and they are the end game by hook or by crook. If i felt this way, I would cut down my losses in time as it will only get difficult to accept down the line. It's no point getting worked up over a fictional show.