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Hi all you bright young women!

I think this is one of the most articulate,evocative,well written threads on the forum.All of you have written passionately but with clear eyed assessments.
I teach Eng.Lit to Ma students at DU & I intend to make this mandatory reading for all students to learn how to argue your point cogently & politely allow diverse views to co-exist.You could teach a few skills to the snobbish lot that study Eng,Lit & think they are knees bees-where sa they are merely filling in time till their parents find them spouses,whereupon they will plunge headlong into their real,god-given job of producing sons!

@birgal=We did briefly engage at another thread of yours a long time ago.I remember being totally floored then too!
The same goes for the posts by BheegiBasanti,FIZK6,urcrazy,-Hope- & _dk_mystery.AMAZING!

My sincere thanks & many congratulations on tackling difficult subjects with such truthfulness.As a lecturer it is exhilarating to stumble upon such erudition but also a bit depressing to read the pedestrian stuff that students churn out,

For those who are interested in seeing how effective sardonic irony works to lift a brain dead serial like Pavitra Rishta,I'd recommend the thread called kool sadhu's daily thread called kool's kommentary. I don't even watch the da*ned show -but her commentary is entrancing! Everybody on that thread is sensible & funny -not at all like AT members!

So,while I thank my lucky stars-you go meet up with like minded writing rock stars! And while you are doing it look up Axeion's post (my absolute favorites!) & those of Cruiser51Hilarious & irreverent!)

Originally posted by: --Hope--

I think it is subjective

Different people need different things. men and women alike.

I am a career woman but I also treasure having an Aditya in my life. I see both sides of my life as crucial to my success and my happiness. Yet I can also live by myself if a calamity struck

I know many women who think like me and then I also know woman (my sister beign one) who chose to live a single life. She has a few friends who are single women they seem happy enough. though I know my sister who is now in her mid 40s wishes she had got married and had kids when she stays over with my family.

@Hope...true. There never is a one shoe that can fit all. My point is...it is a very individual choice...and...that choice changes with time & circumstances. While single now, I have had an SJ/BJ (😉) (sorry...not Aditya...😆) in my life and that was wonderful (and not) too. Being single works for now.

All that said, there is a subconscious and apparent mentality in India, at least, that a woman is not complete till she has gotten married. Of course that is not true of every family but true of the majority. Maryaada, like Fiz reminded us, did say that marriage was not necessary to define a woman. But up to this point, they have not truly walked that talk. Vidya should have been encouraged to do something with her life much before instead of going after the stupid Cheenu love angle...but I get the TRP pressures they face. Similarly, Priya should have stood up for herself against Aditya's attitude sooner. It is creatively screenplay convenient to show her anger now...not terrible...but could have been executed better.

Originally posted by: znursingh

@birgal=We did briefly engage at another thread of yours a long time ago.I remember being totally floored then too!
The same goes for the posts by BheegiBasanti,FIZK6,urcrazy,-Hope- & _dk_mystery.AMAZING!

My sincere thanks & many congratulations on tackling difficult subjects with such truthfulness.As a lecturer it is exhilarating to stumble upon such erudition but also a bit depressing to read the pedestrian stuff that students churn out,

thanks @znursingh!! :)

I am sure by time Indians will learn to respect a single woman and accept her as is.

Being in India as a single girl is not easy for sure... n even though I love living here, I think someday I'll shift to a different country where people don't care if the girl is married or not and know how to mind their own business!

Till then I'll show all the useless people, this:

Originally posted by: _dkmystery_

Being in India as a single girl is not easy for sure... n even though I love living here, I think someday I'll shift to a different country where people don't care if the girl is married or not and know how to mind their own business!

Till then I'll show all the useless people, this:

😆

Originally posted by: znursingh

So,while I thank my lucky stars-you go meet up with like minded writing rock stars! And while you are doing it look up Axeion's post (my absolute favorites!) & those of Cruiser51Hilarious & irreverent!)

Originally posted by: BheegiBasanti

@Hope...true. There never is a one shoe that can fit all. My point is...it is a very individual choice...and...that choice changes with time & circumstances. While single now, I have had an SJ/BJ (😉) (sorry...not Aditya...😆) in my life and that was wonderful (and not) too. Being single works for now.

All that said, there is a subconscious and apparent mentality in India, at least, that a woman is not complete till she has gotten married. Of course that is not true of every family but true of the majority. Maryaada, like Fiz reminded us, did say that marriage was not necessary to define a woman. But up to this point, they have not truly walked that talk. Vidya should have been encouraged to do something with her life much before instead of going after the stupid Cheenu love angle...but I get the TRP pressures they face. Similarly, Priya should have stood up for herself against Aditya's attitude sooner. It is creatively screenplay convenient to show her anger now...not terrible...but could have been executed better.

@ bold It depends where you are. in an urban or rural area.

urban areas I think that there are many views not just the bolded on.

That one is more pre-dominant in rural areas, small towns or extremely conservative communities but there are still many communities in India where a moderate and even a liberal view point is maintained. I have seen many fathers adopted this liberal or moderate view point in India as opposed to mothers from the generation gone by.

I don't think there is anything wrong in them showing the love angle or husband wife dynamic will they show her achieve her independence. TRPs or otherwise.

A woman's inner strength is not related to her marital status, her economic status, her acadmic qualifications etc. RD is proof of that. It is related to her own individual characteristic and besides everyone needs a support structure. Man is not an island.

There are many women who demonstrate strength, independence and set clear personal boundaries inspite of being married with children.

I don't think that Priya needs to be shown as the lone ranger just to show that Indian women can be independent. To me it is fine if they show that she develops her independence without abandoning her commitments to her husband and by acting reasonably rather than emotionally all the time. That to me demonstrates strength will power and independence.

I feel sometimes that in the haste to oppose the pati parmeshwar scenario we frown upon women who take the middle ground. I think that women take the middle ground deserve as much support and recognition as a woman who decides to demonstrate independence through a singular life. Some shy away from commitment and desire personal space over that and that is fine but when people desire a fine balance between commitment and personal space that should not be viewed in a weakened light. I think it is harder to demonstrate clear independence when you are surrounded by marital and family commitments than when you are not

the expectations that you need to tone down from people you love and have made a faith based commitment to are of a different nature and intensity

considering that Priya is in a small town that is also a conservative society I think demonstrating independence and strength in a moderate way as opposed to flying solo is more appropriate in that setting. currently they are showing that to gain her independence she has detached herself from a mother she has adopted, a husband she has no clear indication of divorcing (more like making pay for his lack of trust and support), a father who has no idea she has walked away and a brother who deeply cares for her.

she does not give the impression of a person who is determined to lead an independent life but rather someone who is running away from her commitments because she is overwhelmed by their influence on her survivial/ self respect. the approach in my opinion does not reflect the stance they are trying to portray of strong women in India.