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Posted: 10 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Arshics


So true Shreya, but I doubt if the Garudas can match the high tech preparation of nagas! They will have to rely on their intelligence more than their weapons to beat the nagas



Yet it has always been proven that without intelligence weapons are of no use and while the Naags may be smart, the Garudas are smarter, especially when you have a DM, a street-smart Charles, and Rudra.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@happy show is not breeding fatalism. Niyati is important. But Niyati can help you only if you take the right action. Hence action is very important. Niyati nudges you towards right action so that it benefits not only you, but whole society.
Rudra is a man who understands the senses now, understand the language of niyati and he is taking action. BG always tells concentrate on action than the result. Because as per newton's third law every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So every action of ours results in chain of reaction and these reactions can affect the final result. So concentrating on result if we do actions we may not get the desired result.
If you have watched the MB in starplus there is a beautiful scene between Shakuni and Krishna playing out this principle using the dice. Shakuni putting the dice with the numbers he want and Krishna simply observing. He just asks Shakuni to keep on playing and at a crucial point unexpectedly takes the dice and plays which topples whole of Shakuni's plans 😃
It was a beautiful scene and need to be watched to understand the law of action, reaction and result in a much profound manner. Niyati creates the weakness in the evil, it is for the good to understand that weakness and attack it.
To put it in more clear terms with the illusion of sunset Krishna brings Jayadratha in direct line of fire of Arjuna. But Arjuna has to be capable enough to understand that oppourtunity and exploit it. In other words he has to send the arrow precisely in the split of the second before anyone else can act.
Niyati creates oppourtunity and the learned understand and make use of the oppourtunity. That is why the adage " Fortune favours the brave"
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Posted: 10 years ago
#23
Shruti, the MB of course is the fount of all kriya yoga & karma yoga philosophies which focus on your internal life and external actions... It is the most perfectly balanced treatise.

This show is a different breed. It harps on Niyati and pretty much everything else is brushed aside!! Rudr gets knowledge because it is his niyati, not because he made any efforts in that direction. The garuds come together at MK because it is their niyati not on account of any efforts by their leader... These are some of the instances I was thinking about when I made that comment.


Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@happy show is not breeding fatalism. Niyati is important. But Niyati can help you only if you take the right action. Hence action is very important. Niyati nudges you towards right action so that it benefits not only you, but whole society.

Rudra is a man who understands the senses now, understand the language of niyati and he is taking action. BG always tells concentrate on action than the result. Because as per newton's third law every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So every action of ours results in chain of reaction and these reactions can affect the final result. So concentrating on result if we do actions we may not get the desired result.
If you have watched the MB in starplus there is a beautiful scene between Shakuni and Krishna playing out this principle using the dice. Shakuni putting the dice with the numbers he want and Krishna simply observing. He just asks Shakuni to keep on playing and at a crucial point unexpectedly takes the dice and plays which topples whole of Shakuni's plans 😃
It was a beautiful scene and need to be watched to understand the law of action, reaction and result in a much profound manner. Niyati creates the weakness in the evil, it is for the good to understand that weakness and attack it.
To put it in more clear terms with the illusion of sunset Krishna brings Jayadratha in direct line of fire of Arjuna. But Arjuna has to be capable enough to understand that oppourtunity and exploit it. In other words he has to send the arrow precisely in the split of the second before anyone else can act.
Niyati creates oppourtunity and the learned understand and make use of the oppourtunity. That is why the adage " Fortune favours the brave"

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Posted: 10 years ago
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@happy I agree. But you need to see the way Niyati plays in MK. It is very disruptive because the people are not taking action. So in every instance Niyati is forcing action. Niyati will do that when people born to take care of things does not do it in profound manner. But it does it in most disturbing and disruptive way, the way changes are introduced in Rudra's life.
But I would say script should have been done more credibly than Bollywood style for this meaning to come through properly. I mean the message had to come out that it is the lead's inaction that is forcing Niyati to take action which unless you intrapret it, it is missing in the script. Those aspects are glossed over. If you read my analysis to Shyamaladi's post last week I had clearly mentioned about this glossing over in Indian TV serials to keep the image of adarsh beta, adarsh hero, adarsh bahu intact which is like teasing the intelligent audience who can take the greyness in hero, failure in hero etc.. which TRP aunty cannot. And TV belongs to TRP aunty😭
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@happy I agree. But you need to see the way Niyati plays in MK. It is very disruptive because the people are not taking action. So in every instance Niyati is forcing action. Niyati will do that when people born to take care of things does not do it in profound manner. But it does it in most disturbing and disruptive way, the way changes are introduced in Rudra's life.

But I would say script should have been done more credibly than Bollywood style for this meaning to come through properly. I mean the message had to come out that it is the lead's inaction that is forcing Niyati to take action which unless you intrapret it, it is missing in the script. Those aspects are glossed over. If you read my analysis to Shyamaladi's post last week I had clearly mentioned about this glossing over in Indian TV serials to keep the image of adarsh beta, adarsh hero, adarsh bahu intact which is like teasing the intelligent audience who can take the greyness in hero, failure in hero etc.. which TRP aunty cannot. And TV belongs to TRP aunty😭


Shruti, happy,

The script of MK fails miserably here.

While in MB it was niyati ka khel, but it was all about personal choices and actions. The message always from MB is niyati is more a product of our actions and intentions than vice versa. So, life is about choices and chances.

The hero in MK is too passive and too much the hero of fairy tales where things happen to him, and he doesn't strive to get them.

Rudra is a very disappointing hero, dansh has put in far more effort in this war.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#26
Arshi I agree with you. 100% agree with you. The weakest link of MK is the script. A good concept has not been conceived and delivered properly. First half was philosophical & tolerable. Second half in pretext of showing a war between Good and bad is turning farcical.

Mahabharat is' Mother of all plots' and no one can match it . All the characters are there with purpose and are very well defined. Each one had their own concrete reasons to fight.

Niyati is there but for me its our NIYATI we chose to watch MK and trying to put meaning to all the actions/scenes in show. Its the show's Niyati that it has not survived the Hype it created in the beginning of the show.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#27
@Seedibaat Indian TV still has a long way to go before it can give us realistic scripts which is content driven. I mean in the last 10 years it has been ruined so much that it seems like the DD TV shows belonged to another century. Pathbreaking shows like Udaan, Junoon, Chunouti, buniyaad etc..,I don't know whether our generation will get such solid shows.
So for me a show can be watched if it's script is base minimum average that means rises above the normal kitchen politics and the problems of parivaar. In that way MK is much better than what we get on TV these days. But then tightening the script would have made this one show a true masterpiece.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Seedibaat Indian TV still has a long way to go before it can give us realistic scripts which is content driven. I mean in the last 10 years it has been ruined so much that it seems like the DD TV shows belonged to another century. Pathbreaking shows like Udaan, Junoon, Chunouti, buniyaad etc..,I don't know whether our generation will get such solid shows.

So for me a show can be watched if it's script is base minimum average that means rises above the normal kitchen politics and the problems of parivaar. In that way MK is much better than what we get on TV these days. But then tightening the script would have made this one show a true masterpiece.


Shruti
MK is path breaking show for sure and all of us had some expectations about the show from the way it was promoted. I really appreciate The last sentence of your post .It actually summaries whole discussion😊

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Posted: 10 years ago
#29
hmm, trp doesn't matter, in my view, mahakumbh is way more better than those high trp shows.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: Arijit007

hmm, trp doesn't matter, in my view, mahakumbh is way more better than those high trp shows.


I agree Arijit, we can crib as much as we like but it's still way better than the saas bahu nonsense that gets all the TRPs

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