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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Mandy dearest,

I do not know what to say to this, except that I wish I could blush! Such extravagant praise and so much affection makes one feel humble, and I normally believe, like Sherlock Holmes, that humility is an overrated virtue.

I have not yet been able to rewatch that excerpt for which you have sent me the link, but I will, and I have another favourite bit from the day before that, so I shall comment on both. I still watch the show , and plan to do so till the end. But I wish you would make a little special effort and catch up with Mahakumbh, for I would love to have your considered views on it.It is just now moving to the mid point, and then maybe we will have a break before they start on the second half.

Affectionately,

Shyamala



shyamala my dearest will try catching up on MK aap ke kehne par🤗..still waiting for your pearls to shine in my thread and also do not forget to watch jodha's new lover in the precap and write something about his looks..i just cannot stop laughing after seeing him😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#42
My dear Santhi,

Thank you for your unfailing moral support!

As for Shiva letting Katharine go, under the circumstances, it was unavoidable, but he should never have let it get to this point by bringing Charles there. Rao and the DM would have been ok. As it is, while Charles has placed a gag order on Katharine, there is no certainty it will work, and in any case, Shiva could hardly have counted on Charles imposing that ban on her.

What was incomprehensible was his sanguine comment that Katharine would not tell anyone, not even Charles, and this just because she is a garuda😡.

Firstly, it is pure folly, this kind of over confidence, that too when the whole future of their mission hinges on Shiva's hideout remaining hidden (don't ever question how he ever thought it would stay that way given the ease of access to it! That is a mystery on par with how he ever carted all that stuff there, at a time when the Pandey parivaar must have been in residence.) . How can keeping an eye on her help if she goes up to Greyerson and spills the beans?

In this context, I am reminded of another mysterious comment Shivanand makes when Rao asks him to keep an eye on Katharine in the Brahma Nisht Panth. He says that he has ek aur wajah (ie apart from ascertaining whether she is a garuda or an enemy of the garudas) for doing that. It has not been clarified subsequently what that wajah is.

Of course Katharine will keep her mouth shut re: Greyerson, and it will be interesting to see what story she cooks up to explain her not taking his calls. I am beginning to feel that Katharine has her own agenda independent of the Greyerson one, and that she will use the skills that she has gained thanks to the training he got her, plus her own strengths as a garuda, to promote that agenda.

It is now up to Shiva & Co. to penetrate that agenda of hers, and convince her that it can be meshed with theirs. Also that she can best help them by staying on in the Greyerson camp as a garuda mole.

Yes, Rudra was at his best so far, linguistically speaking, in that scene near the boat. and Gautam was very good too. Not quite Saras yet, but a good try nevertheless! But the two bits I have mentioned were the most subtle and striking.

Ganga is a confusing character, what with her 24 sweaters and her wandering around, unmindful both of the danger you have pointed out and of the refuge (yes, her saasuma will be there too, but surely she must be used to her!😉) that is ready at hand in that haystack of a Brahma Nisht Panth tent. One presumes that the kalpavaasis are not allergic to straw dust!😉

Shyamala

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

Shyamala ji,

Great post as usual.

I am looking forward to this week. Rudra-maya romance seems to be over in the sense that the scenes are over.

This week it's going to be drama I guess.

I think Shivanand could not do much other than letting Katherine go. He did say that he has to keep an eye on them. May be some plan of his?

I felt Rudra's lines to Maya near the boat very different. There was almost like a transformation in him.
The pitch was low and calm. Very refined. Is it due to his contact with dadi n baba. Or the relief of getting near Maya?

Ganga seems to be hiding from the world but also unmindful that Srisanth panthis can run into her anytime. Last Kumbh was not Mahakumbh. While this one is. She sure knows the significance of this one.

I am glad Punnu is back in the mix.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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My dear Shubha,

Thank you, and I should add that while it might be becoming a habit,that says as much, or more, about you than about me. I am always uneasily conscious of the fact that my posts are not for everyone and are an acquired taste.

My supplementary comments are in blue.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: happychappy

Dear Shyamala, thanks for the brilliant read once again - this is becoming a habit now...😉

First, I have some nominations for the week - all to be taken with a pinch of you-know-what -

Dadi for Lifetime Achievement in the role of 'Infant terrible' for her tantrum at the Saraswatikund & elsewhere 😒

Sahadev for 'Best Bali ka bakra' - being anointed the Guard of the Kund is a surefire way to get knocked off - 🤔 Or Best Chugalkhor? I would like to clout him one, coming huffing and puffing as if Shiva was doing a repeat of 1989 on the Kund.😡

Siva for the Kelvinator Penguin Special award - He's the Coolest one! Lovely. He is cool even when it seems an even chance that his hideout will be one no longer, thanks to the Charles factor!

The Rudr-Maya bhutta scene for the Golden Raspberry for worst Romance - the only sparks flying were from the roasting bhutta Oh dear, I am going to get a stitch in my side, you wicked girl😉!

Punnu Tiwari for the Most Adorable SRK fan - what a line "kya jodi hai, mano sakshaat Gauri aur Sharukh..." 😆 plus he even said "bhindi" dhoondh rahe hain when he ws looking for Rudr in the sabzi mandi

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Posted: 10 years ago
#44
My dearest Mandy,

Take a look at page 9 of your thread. My post is almost 3 pages long! It is at

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/120349925

See how you like it,and share it with our friends if you think it worthwhile.

Shyamala

PS: My middle of the night recording of Episode 456 did not have the precap, so more of that later


Originally posted by: ghalibmirza



shyamala my dearest will try catching up on MK aap ke kehne par🤗..still waiting for your pearls to shine in my thread and also do not forget to watch jodha's new lover in the precap and write something about his looks..i just cannot stop laughing after seeing him😆


Originally posted by: sashashyam

Mandy dearest,

I do not know what to say to this, except that I wish I could blush! Such extravagant praise and so much affection makes one feel humble, and I normally believe, like Sherlock Holmes, that humility is an overrated virtue.

I have not yet been able to rewatch that excerpt for which you have sent me the link, but I will, and I have another favourite bit from the day before that, so I shall comment on both. I still watch the show , and plan to do so till the end. But I wish you would make a little special effort and catch up with Mahakumbh, for I would love to have your considered views on it.It is just now moving to the mid point, and then maybe we will have a break before they start on the second half.

Affectionately,

Shyamala



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Posted: 10 years ago
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@happychappy Dadi as 7th Garud. I will have to bury my entire theory and will need to find new theory😆😆😆.
No way she cant be the 7th one. 7th one is invisible, while Dadi very much make her presence felt. 7th one is very important one yaar. Also Shiva has to win. No way Shiva can lose. His years of search, knowledge, the sufferings everything was for the betterment of society. His purpose of saving Amrit is to ensure dharma is established in society. Yes he made some mistakes here and there. But his intent was, is and will be always pure and not selfish.
Whereas Dadi does not possess any of this qualities. Hers is pure idealism, manipulation at the hilt to impose her POV and get things done the way she wants by hook or crook.
Shiva does not harp on Rudra, whereas Dadi harps on him. Because though Shiva needs Rudra, he is not imposing himself on to him. He is giving his son the choice to understand things, whereas Dadi is imposing her views on Rudra in a sugar syrupy manipulative way.
Even Maimui and Tapadiya Mai are strong woman, but they don't impose things on Rudra though they care for him much.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thank you, Shruthi, for joining the NO Daadi as the 7th garud for us! campaign! As I wrote to Shubha,the very prospect appals me😉.

Your take @ blue is spot on in its comparison of how Shiva, Tappadiya and everyone else except Daadi treats Rudra, and how Daadi treats him. She is, above all, domineering, and as I noted once earlier, her maxim seems to be My way or the highway!

Did your really mean "idealism", wrt Daadi? I would have said extreme orthodoxy, regardless of whether it works or not.

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@happychappy Dadi as 7th Garud. I will have to bury my entire theory and will need to find new theory😆😆😆.

No way she cant be the 7th one. 7th one is invisible, while Dadi very much make her presence felt. 7th one is very important one yaar. Also Shiva has to win. No way Shiva can lose. His years of search, knowledge, the sufferings everything was for the betterment of society. His purpose of saving Amrit is to ensure dharma is established in society. Yes he made some mistakes here and there. But his intent was, is and will be always pure and not selfish.
Whereas Dadi does not possess any of this qualities. Hers is pure idealism, manipulation at the hilt to impose her POV and get things done the way she wants by hook or crook.
Shiva does not harp on Rudra, whereas Dadi harps on him. Because though Shiva needs Rudra, he is not imposing himself on to him. He is giving his son the choice to understand things, whereas Dadi is imposing her views on Rudra in a sugar syrupy manipulative way.
Even Maimui and Tapadiya Mai are strong woman, but they don't impose things on Rudra though they care for him much.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Shymaladi both orthodox and idealism are like 2 faces of same coin. Both resist change. Look at certain idealists, they don't even know what that idea means in real sense but if it benefits them they will stick to it. Same is the case with orthodox people, orthodoxy arises from sticking to certain back dated ideals which have no use in the contemporary world, but the person needs it to hold his or her power.
See Shiva alteast does what he says. Right and wrong of his actions is a different thing. His understanding it correctly or incorrectly is also a different thing. But his actions are true to his conscience. When he says you have to keep a distance from everyone or rakshak ke parivaar nahi hote he practices it.
But look at Dadi she says Karma Ka bandhan. What does that mean. In hus-wife you should have prem ka bandhan. Karma is ok in other relations but not in this relation.
Then she says pass se dekho. Has she really gone near anyone. Has she really understood anyone's else's feelings. Yes she has if it benefitted her, not if it does not benefit her. She never went near her son to understand him.
Allow Maya to do Sankalp, ask Rudra to visit and disturb her. It is complete double standard and hypocrisy.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#48

Thank you, my dear Aparna, for liking this post so much. Yes, it is a bit difficult, given my tendency towards prolixity, but at least it takes my mind off the knee for some time!

The part in italics is spot on, especially the last line. But what I am waiting for is for Shiva to go ahead and start exploring the Kundu with Prof. Rao's gizmo, which he has stashed away next to the steps leading down to it. If he does not do that, Katharine will steal it first thing!

As for the remarkably incurious Maya, I agree with you, but my dear, so are they all! Does Rudra display any curioisity about what his father wants of him, or why the 'Veshes want him as well? No.

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: appukrish

Thank you Shyamala di for the lovely post. Inspite of all the pain and discomfort, you have made such a detailed post and with all those witty remarks. Aisi haalat mien tho humara dimaag kaam hi nahin karta.

Most of us have ranted so much about the love story being forced upon us. I won't go there but I realized that we have 12 episodes to go before we hit the season 1 mark of 60 episodes. So I think we will see some more dragging with the romance, reluctant Rudra and Shiva's efforts to bring him around among other things.

Shivanand-Katherine : The first fight between them, he sees the Garud Chinh on her and thinks 'mujhe iska uddeshya jaanna hai'. So at first I thought maybe he's trying to test her. And she knows his strength and power so he is confident that she won't open her mouth. but his dialogue that 'woh such nahin kahegi lyon ki woh Garud hai' didn't make sense.

Next Shivanand going through Maya to make Rudra realize his niyati etc. I was of the same opinion too. But again where is the time for that. Shiva doesn't even know her and to tell her all this. Daadi will get a restraining order for Shiva (Maya ke aas paas nazar aaya tho jail bhijwadenge).

But from what we have seen of Rudra, what works with him is either a big, real jhatka (death or danger), or emotional blackmail (the way Maimui convinced him to go to Maya's basketball game). So let's see which way the makers will take this, and who will bell the cat.

One thing I'm wondering about is that after Maya found out that she was used by her family to bring Rudra to Allahabad under the pretext that Rudra will bring back their happiness (something like that), she hears the Veshes talking about killing both or either to get what they want. She has never wondered what they want from Rudra?? Why did she never question the Veshes or Rudra as to why Rudra is so important. She should be wondering about all this na?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thoy Ambu Paya Jal Thanni Neer
6 words for water.😲

Have come across all of them in poetry, but surely couldn't have listed them all in one go.

Hitler Daadi came down and crumpled her son and his guru without much ado. This lady does have simmering power. just wish she hears the other side too and attempts to understand.






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Posted: 10 years ago
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Aunty...great post👍🏼
I've one kweshchun...why Maya was blushing so hard, constantly ? I couldn't fathom head and tail of it

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