Gupt Saraswati- Symbolic of missing knowledge?

happychappy

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Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@happychappy Rudra's mom is called Ganga. Superb. Then my analysis is on the right track 😃

Waiting to see what your analysis is, dear Sruthi... UN has completely confused me... What with mythical Saraswati flowing westward per satellite picture and nowhere near Allahabad... Then Saraswatikund in the BNP haveli... And Prof.Rao's water-detection machine... I don't know if I'm coming or going...

Right now the greatest mystery of the show (for me) is the match of the actor and the role of Maya - what is it about the role that this and only this actor was picked? I am guessing something unexpected lies ahead... If you look at the excellence in casting, its so hard to believe they made a mistake here...😕

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appukrish

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Originally posted by: happychappy

Waiting to see what your analysis is, dear Sruthi... UN has completely confused me... What with mythical Saraswati flowing westward per satellite picture and nowhere near Allahabad... Then Saraswatikund in the BNP haveli... And Prof.Rao's water-detection machine... I don't know if I'm coming or going...

Right now the greatest mystery of the show (for me) is the match of the actor and the role of Maya - what is it about the role that this and only this actor was picked? I am guessing something unexpected lies ahead... If you look at the excellence in casting, its so hard to believe they made a mistake here...😕

Happy, you stole the words out of my mouth. I was thinking the same as to why this actor was picked. Something unexpected.. like the sound of that. Ofcourse it depends what the unexpected turns out to be. Rudra at this point reminds me of 2 people. One Hrithik in Lakshya and the other Sidhartha (Hermann hesse). Like a cross between these 2. Suddenly so much in Moh Maya and also aimlessly going about life.

Confusing Prof. Rao. He is confusing us and also Shivanand.

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pasumarthisa

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Originally posted by: happychappy

Waiting to see what your analysis is, dear Sruthi... UN has completely confused me... What with mythical Saraswati flowing westward per satellite picture and nowhere near Allahabad... Then Saraswatikund in the BNP haveli... And Prof.Rao's water-detection machine... I don't know if I'm coming or going...

Right now the greatest mystery of the show (for me) is the match of the actor and the role of Maya - what is it about the role that this and only this actor was picked? I am guessing something unexpected lies ahead... If you look at the excellence in casting, its so hard to believe they made a mistake here...😕

Happy ji,

Saraswatikund is fiction. That is clear. The course of Saraswati as described by Prof. Rao has been lifted from Wikipedia and other sources since he quotes verbatim.

this is some amateur writing. I have seen this here and there. There is some brilliant writing interspersed with amateur stuff.

There are various theories on the course of Saraswati. There are various rivers that have been called Saraswati. One of it is that it that Vedic Saraswati is different from Puranic Saraswati. After Vedic Saraswati dried up, it appeared in Puranas as reappearing in Triveni Sangam. Triveni Sangam happens in many places not just Allahabad. Check Wikipedia for it has exhausitve info which is surprising for a Wikipedia entry

So finding or relocating Saraswati and bringing it back is pure fiction.

Saraswati here does not symbolize lost knowledge.

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happychappy

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^^^

Santhi I understand Saraswatikund is fiction. Query is why bring in wikifacts that appear contrary to the fiction you are constructing...😕

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pasumarthisa

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Originally posted by: happychappy
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Santhi I understand Saraswatikund is fiction. Query is why bring in wikifacts that appear contrary to the fiction you are constructing...😕

I think I attributed it to 'amatuer writing'. There is a very vague or hardly any link between Vedic river that's lost and Puranic references at Allahabad. And this amateur writing tries to somehow connect both and establish something outlandish.

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Arijit

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Posted: 10 years ago

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hmm, may be you are right, let see how it goes.

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@ Santhi,

I think when Shruthi links river Saraswati with Vidya ki devi Saraswati, it's not a reference to the convo between prof and shiva, it's more about the underlying message of the show, I feel.

That there is a lot in our past that needs to be researched and seeked and discovered.

We need to apply modern techniques to establish concretely and historically what was and wasn't

While it may take some of the shine off our glorious past, we still need to question and establish the difference between mythology and history.

Otherwise we will have fantastic statements like the ones made by our 'esteemed' politicians about how we already had airplanes and plastic surgery and television in the days of Ramayana and Mahabharata, and continue to glorify and appreciate our past for all the wrong reasons.

That there is a lot to learn from our rich past and there is powerful wisdom in our culture is true, and that i think is being highlighted by the story, encouraging all of us go back and reread all the stories and legends again.

Otherwise, it's a fiction and based on the premise that amrit appears every 144 years at the Mahakumbh and that's the creative license writers have taken. For a story may take any flight of fantasy! That's the joy of stories.

As a beautiful proverb in hindi says -' jahan na pahunche ravi, wahan pahunche 'kavi'

Agree on the ameturish research on river saraswati.

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I think prof and shiva are planning to recreate triveni sangam, by finding the river Saraswati and its water.

So, if that's what is their intent and Dadi has known about, it makes her anger very justified

Because they seem to be disturbing nature and creating a situation that can lead to severe death and destruction.

Dadi's statement then makes literal sense too - EK boond amrit ki bachi hai... Let's preserve what we have...

Another lesson of life.

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pasumarthisa

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Arshi,

I am not sure.

We know that Saraswati is 'antarvaahini'. One of my favorite terms. Can mean 'undercurrent' or literally 'flowing inside'. We can't see but its there. So if you want to bring the knowledge symbolism, we can also counter it saying that its always there as an underlying principle in all of us.

In Triveni sangam, it represents Brahma(Saraswati being his wife). And people believe its there. But like I said, vedic river was a flourishing one flowing on the ground and not Antarvahini.

http://www.amazingbharat.com/2013/12/river-saraswati-lost-river-and.html

PS: Prof. Rao is upto something but he wants to revive Saraswatikund. And Shiva agrees on that since he promised himself to revive that kund and re-establish glory of Brahmanisht panth. So they have a common ground there. But looks like he does not agree with some ulterior motives of Prof. Rao.

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Arshics

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Originally posted by: pasumarthisa
Arshi,

I am not sure.

We know that Saraswati is 'antarvaahini'. One of my favorite terms. Can mean 'undercurrent' or literally 'flowing inside'. We can't see but its there. So if you want to bring the knowledge symbolism, we can also counter it saying that its always there as an underlying principle in all of us.

In Triveni sangam, it represents Brahma(Saraswati being his wife). And people believe its there. But like I said, vedic river was a flourishing one flowing on the ground and not Antarvahini.

http://www.amazingbharat.com/2013/12/river-saraswati-lost-river-and.html

@ bold - so true, and antarvahini is a beautiful term and as you said, could be interpreted both ways.

The theme of Mahakumbh is different, and what it's attempting to take mythology and spin a modern day story around it.

The story while having its origin in hindu mythology, stays away from propounding the religion and rituals.

It instead is focused on dharma, karma, humanitarianism.

I will again reiterate that Shruthis point is that it's a first of a kind as its not a mythological - like DKDM, or Mahabharata, it's not your run of the mill family drama, it takes elements of our mythology, places them in modern context and talks of basic good human values, and helps us to look into our past, not with the blind devotion of Bhakti, but with the questioning of a rational mind.

While AB and UN are still playing safe, but they have kept it very 'non religious' and stuck to adherence to basic forces of good and evil and spirit of enquiry, quest for knowledge versus contentment with what we have, truth and falsehood, family values versus universal oneness, peace versus war

We don't get to see shows on indian telly that focus on anything beyond lousy kitchen politics.

Or we have mythologicals that talk of another time another place.

This show here is a sangam of today and yesterday, fact and fiction and focus on 'shashwat satya'

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