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shruthiravi

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Posted: 10 years ago

#11

@Arshics another nice take of a poignant episode. My points. Our culture is huge, our knowledge is immense but to understand it you have to delve deep. You have to ask questions. Though it comes from evil nanu I would say it is a message to current generation to go and understand what the concept of Bharath is, what the culture of Bharath is and savour the richness that is there. Appreciate the richness of one's own culture than blindly following something else disregarding it.

Then comes Dadi and Rudra scene. The dawn breaking was a beauty. And I loved the way Dadi understood her bachwa. I wouldn't say Rudra did wrong by choosing dadi from where he is standing. He is a child at heart from whom love is taken away now and then. As I said in Shymaladi's post for his head to function correctly his heart has to be set right, which is a journey in itself. A journey which Shiva cannot correct on his own. He needs support of other Garuds.

Coming to Ganga cleaning. I loved Tiwari's breakfast idea. It was a lighter scene but send across a very strong message. You reap what you sow. If you pollute the river, the life giving source the one who is revered as mother sooner or later along with the river you will also die. Because only life can create life. Hence life giving sources has to be respected. Not in words but in actions too. Do we throw dirt at people who we respect, then why throwing them in the river if you call the river Mother.

Then comes Maya and Balivesh. Balivesh has tied Maya and feels she is in his control. Maya's smile clearly tell it is an illusion.Balivesh like Kamsa is an idiot who didn't understand the Maya and thought he can easily get rid of her. No she cannot be get ridden that easy. She is the one who is gonna give him the shock of his life when he understands who she is.

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MaddyO

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Posted: 10 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: happychappy
Hi Arshi, thanks for putting up your thread so unfailingly. i watched bit not sure i got the half of it...
today was not my favourite episode... It felt like a cross-roads with way too much traffic...

and very disappointed with MKs TVT scores... when will people ever watch the well-made show instead of the spoon-fed pap? Hope AB & Co will not be too discouraged by the response...

Dadi & Rudr are now on the same page? Poor Sivanand. Attagirl Maya - that was a very spirited show.

I agree - I felt so disappointed seeing TRPs. Why MK is not getting more viewers? 😕 Is is one of the best serials currently on.
I think one of the reasons could be that - if someone suddenly starts to watch - too much has happened and it is bit complicated to catch up with story.
No such problems with sbs!
I am afraid we are forever stuck with sbs sagas! 🤢

If the PH make their money on sbs sagas and use it to make just one Mahakumbh - we should be grateful!

LifeOk had started with one good serial 2612 - it was just fantastic well made well written well acted serial. That was launch of LifeOK channel so low TRPs were understandable - after all many people were not even aware of the channel or getting to view it.

However TRPs for Mk should be better - MK certainly deserves them.
I don't know is MK advertised on StarPlus also? They should.

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 10 years ago

#13

@Maddy MK is intense. TRPs are always for shows which dish out the same set of stories in different format. You don't need half a brain to understand them.

But MK makes you think. It gives a shock treatment to some of your thought processes. It sends out poignanat messages and for a show like this you need mature audience who are willing to experiment. MK is promoted in SP , Star Sports and Channel V. Considering it in Life OK I feel it is doing pretty good though it needs to get much more.

But our TV has to go a long way before that can happen. But anyday I thankful to a EHT, Everest or MK that comes occasionally than the never ending unrealistic SBS

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sashashyam

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Posted: 10 years ago

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My dear Santhi,

I too loved Arshi's post and her patent enthusiasm for the Monday night episode. But
I agree with you 100%, especially about the Shivanand-Rudra-Daadi triangle. I have been doing a lot responding to posts on my thread and I am too worn out now, but you have put it all as well as I could have and even better.

I was exasperated with Rudra, and all the beauty of that scene at the Sangam could not wipe off that irritation about the sudden plunge in Rudra's characterisation.

Even otherwise, I much preferred the other one with Maimuyi. Now she is a fighter and a tough, clearheaded old lady, not a blinkered, obstinate ostrich like this Daadi (but how wonderfully Surekha Sikri plays her!) . If it had been Maimuyi there last night, she would have issued a resounding call to action to Rudra, to kick the living daylights out of his enemies.

Here, one has to note that Shivanand is not contemplating revenge against the Shri Santh Panth, and he tells his mother so before she snubs him in her usual style, He does not have the time or the energy for that, for all his mental and physical resources have to be husbanded for the titanic struggle to protect the amrit from the evil forces that covet it.

It is Rudra who loudly proclaims that he will take complete revenge for har ghaav, har dukh inflicted on his family, both to Daadi and to Naanu-Balivesh. But last night, he seemed suddenly to have forgotten all about his grand pran. Even after all that his Baba had explained to him when they first met , he now gazes at him like a village yokel, and says "Jab baat parayon ko chot pahunchane ki aur apnon ko marham lagaane ki ho, to marham hi lagana chahiye" or something to that effect. He seems to have zero grasp of what is at stake even after he has been told about it.

It was deeply dismaying. He will have to snap out of this baby ostrich attitude, and soon. I am sure he will, for he has to! But I do not know who will be his strength. Maya? Perhaps, or Thappadiya Mai, another mother figure, but tough as nails and a fighter?

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa
Great take Arshi.

Very good episode. But not great. Couple of things were glaring. And those had to do with dadi.

First, Nanu ji gives great Gyan on the Indian learning tradition. Utkarsh by now is a master in creating these situations and writing these lines.

Maya -- is totally liberated from fear. She has nothing to cling on to. That knowledge liberates.

But unfortunately or fortunately Rudra is now clinging to her mentally. Right around the same time that she liberated, he got engulfed in her love!!!😳

Arshi, --- I know we differ on Maya. I feel Maya was shown in a very casual and careless way initially. Its only since the last few episodes that the writers have been doing some justice to her character.

Tiwari ji is a changed person since the revelation. Earlier he looked grim and tight. Now he has that confidence in him. The revelation was for us and Charles right?😆 His talk about the need to protect and clean Ganga and how this cannot be ignored in the name of Ashtaa was great. Hit the right cord. Again, Jai ho Utkarsh!!

Coming to the big scenes.

Dadi and Shivanand face-off was well conceptualized but Dadi came out as high-handed and foolish too. She cuts him when he utters the word Amrit and doesn't let him finish. Bandhan hai par sirf asthaa se hi?

Shivanand is still polite. She chides him for bringing Rudra into this. That's when he feels the pinch and the father in him wakes up. He asserts he is the father and tells that Rudra needs to have a mind on his own. He trusts Rudra because he told him everything. On how this chihna is their destiny and how they are garudas born with a duty to protect Amrit from selfish people. And how this is not something petty. After this, he thinks Rudra will take his side. Loved the scene. Shivanand is my favorite character of the show.

And Rudra gives a reply that is shocking? He choses to side with dadi on giving marham patti. Marham patti to whom? the kalpawasis? Or to themselves. That was little misplaced. If he would have said that he sides with dadi and wants to keep the family together and re-establish seva, it might have been better?

I put a question mark because I think Rudra might be still on Shivanand's side. Shivanand showed how that chihna was unavoidable. And the whole argument was so convincing. He lamented earlier that dadi hasn't forgiven his baba. And he knows he is stuck between his baba and dadi. He knows his father will prevail eventually. But this is not the time to create more chisms in the family. So he pretended to be on dadi's side. And he knows shivanand will not go against his dadi.

He needed answers to Udiya baba and Maimui's murders and he repeatedly told dadi that he will not forgive the murderers. He knows the perpetrators. He even beat one of them to death. Does dadi know this? So Rudra might be faking it.

Or he is still naive? He wants to cling on to what he has and be sentimental. He suffered a lot and maybe wants to be content. Take those murderers to task and live happily with his family? Let's see.

Dadi asked Rudra how he survived and where he has been. She suffered a lot too. But never asked Shivanand where he was. Though he was responsible for this hell in her eyes, he suffered too. He was a hostage for 24 years. Not in yogic samadhi but in living hell.

But the same dadi is able to read Rudra's face like a book. Not only his predicament but his feelings to the T. REally???

Her dialogues about ghar were great. And her sudden excitement about Suryodaya was good but the whole thing didn't have to be so sermonizing. She is not an ordinary woman but somehow that scene felt too sudden.

Tiwari calls her dadi? Recognizes her after 24 years? Naata gehra lagta hai.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa
Great take Arshi.

Very good episode. But not great. Couple of things were glaring. And those had to do with dadi.

First, Nanu ji gives great Gyan on the Indian learning tradition. Utkarsh by now is a master in creating these situations and writing these lines.

Maya -- is totally liberated from fear. She has nothing to cling on to. That knowledge liberates.

But unfortunately or fortunately Rudra is now clinging to her mentally. Right around the same time that she liberated, he got engulfed in her love!!!😳

Arshi, --- I know we differ on Maya. I feel Maya was shown in a very casual and careless way initially. Its only since the last few episodes that the writers have been doing some justice to her character.

Tiwari ji is a changed person since the revelation. Earlier he looked grim and tight. Now he has that confidence in him. The revelation was for us and Charles right?😆 His talk about the need to protect and clean Ganga and how this cannot be ignored in the name of Ashtaa was great. Hit the right cord. Again, Jai ho Utkarsh!!

Coming to the big scenes.

Dadi and Shivanand face-off was well conceptualized but Dadi came out as high-handed and foolish too. She cuts him when he utters the word Amrit and doesn't let him finish. Bandhan hai par sirf asthaa se hi?

Shivanand is still polite. She chides him for bringing Rudra into this. That's when he feels the pinch and the father in him wakes up. He asserts he is the father and tells that Rudra needs to have a mind on his own. He trusts Rudra because he told him everything. On how this chihna is their destiny and how they are garudas born with a duty to protect Amrit from selfish people. And how this is not something petty. After this, he thinks Rudra will take his side. Loved the scene. Shivanand is my favorite character of the show.

And Rudra gives a reply that is shocking? He choses to side with dadi on giving marham patti. Marham patti to whom? the kalpawasis? Or to themselves. That was little misplaced. If he would have said that he sides with dadi and wants to keep the family together and re-establish seva, it might have been better?

I put a question mark because I think Rudra might be still on Shivanand's side. Shivanand showed how that chihna was unavoidable. And the whole argument was so convincing. He lamented earlier that dadi hasn't forgiven his baba. And he knows he is stuck between his baba and dadi. He knows his father will prevail eventually. But this is not the time to create more chisms in the family. So he pretended to be on dadi's side. And he knows shivanand will not go against his dadi.

He needed answers to Udiya baba and Maimui's murders and he repeatedly told dadi that he will not forgive the murderers. He knows the perpetrators. He even beat one of them to death. Does dadi know this? So Rudra might be faking it.

Or he is still naive? He wants to cling on to what he has and be sentimental. He suffered a lot and maybe wants to be content. Take those murderers to task and live happily with his family? Let's see.

Dadi asked Rudra how he survived and where he has been. She suffered a lot too. But never asked Shivanand where he was. Though he was responsible for this hell in her eyes, he suffered too. He was a hostage for 24 years. Not in yogic samadhi but in living hell.

But the same dadi is able to read Rudra's face like a book. Not only his predicament but his feelings to the T. REally???

Her dialogues about ghar were great. And her sudden excitement about Suryodaya was good but the whole thing didn't have to be so sermonizing. She is not an ordinary woman but somehow that scene felt too sudden.

Tiwari calls her dadi? Recognizes her after 24 years? Naata gehra lagta hai.

Wonderful thought provoking post.

The lines in bold - Maya feels liberated cos after she discovered truth about Maimuyi - it was eating at her - she has confessed. Now she thinks she has lost Rudra & there is nothing really binding her to her family. So she is free.

Rudra always had the doubt hesitation about Maya's intentions. He voiced them to Maimuyi (in dream sequence) and now that Rudra knows truth and can trust Maya he has no reason to hold back his own feelings! Maybe after what he had faced all this time - he was hesitant to develop any attachment to another person.

So the reticence, now that he has got his Baba and Dadi back, he wants Maya too. After all he feels no revenge is worth what he might end up losing again - that idea is scary cos he had lost them once - he will never want to face that again. So for now Rudra is trying to follow his Dadi and not his Baba. If he sees even one of his loves ones at risk again it will be Rudra of before.

Shiva need not worry cos - he knows what is coming towards them but Dadi and Rudra do not - once that happens Rudra will be the one leading them.

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MaddyO

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@Maddy MK is intense. TRPs are always for shows which dish out the same set of stories in different format. You don't need half a brain to understand them.
But MK makes you think. It gives a shock treatment to some of your thought processes. It sends out poignanat messages and for a show like this you need mature audience who are willing to experiment. MK is promoted in SP , Star Sports and Channel V. Considering it in Life OK I feel it is doing pretty good though it needs to get much more.
But our TV has to go a long way before that can happen. But anyday I thankful to a EHT, Everest or MK that comes occasionally than the never ending unrealistic SBS

I just wish it was different though. Surely if Hindi & other language movies are making vastly different than "typical" films and they are becoming successful - why can't the same happen on tv? Surely the audience should be similar.

How long the sazish sbs sagas will go on? Unless serials like MK bring in big TRPs - other PH will be happy with their sbs's!
There are rare ones who take the risk like MK here and 2612 or Yudh, EHT or 24.

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MaddyO

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Posted: 10 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: Arshics
Writing a common reply to all due to shortage of time...

@MaddyO - you hit the nail on the head-

The whole episode was about preservation... Dadi wants to preserve her world as it was - even Shiva is not allowed to threaten that

Rudra wants to preserve whatever little he has, and so revenge is no longer worth it..

Shiva is looking at the preservation of Shrishti itself, and knows that it is inevitable.

Quoting you - protection of that Amrut, not to let that fall into wrong hands - should also be their duty.

What of the guru?what is mouni baba's duty?should the gyan be allowed to fall into wrong minds?

that was the question that kept haunting me, So utkarsh carried it further through the Amrit parallel.

Thanks for that.

Thanks Arshics (what is your name btw, I am Medha)

As you wrote so wonderfully in reply to another post - Shiva's quest is for saving the world but Dadi has paid a huge price for that. It is another interesting thought - if Shiva had not corresponded about the Amrut saga - as it were - with foreigners (as Dadi told Rudra) would someone have learnt about it?

Nanu & Balivesh might have - or rather would have but it would have been a different kind of power struggle not involving the likes of Greyson. Why did Balivesh kinda hand over Shiva to Greyson & Co if he knew about the Amrut and Shiva's family's part in it? He would have tried to keep Amrut intact not destroy it by burning their house right?

Mouni Baba is another mystery - as Nanu so wonderfully explained how knowledge is acquired and flows like a river - they are learned men. Except they are using their knowledge for selfish reasons to acquire immortality. What if tomorrow Mouni Baba says he wants to be immortal so he can educate and serve?

I guess the quest for Amrut is on both sides - what they want to use it for separates the good and bad guys.
So Mouni baba is dispersing his gyan to wrong people.

BTW the idea is somewhat scary - I wonder why they would want immortality? Does it ensure that their bodies won't age? What if they become doddering old age but have to live anyway? what use long life if they cannot share it with their loved ones? Nanu already lost Animesh in his quest for Amrut - what will he do with it if at the end he is left alone?

It is somewhat very intruguing that Nanu & Balivesh do not seem to have much attachment to Maya - to their loves ones - but crave the idea of immortality - why would they want to live long sterile feelingless lives?! Is power the kind they enjoy now everything to them?!

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sashashyam

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Dear Maddy,

I would echo your heartfelt plaint, but after seeing what Sony did to Powder - arguably the best crime show ever seen on Indian TV - and then to the more viewer-friendly but still excellent Kismat, and now to Yudh (which did not have a single repeat telecast and no omnibus on the weekends either😡, and I am sure other channels must have done similar disservice to other intelligent shows), I am only surprised that any PH is willing to take a risk on a hatke show..Yashraj quit TV cold turkey after the debacles of Powder and Kismat.

But still, this PH has taken the risk with Mahakumbh, even though it is not as easily appealing as DKDM, and needs a lot of attention.

Now, you ask why, when offbeat Hindi films are succeeding by the dozen, off beat TV shows do not do well. But the former is due to the multiplex phenomenon, fuelled by the urban middle class and high ticket prices.

Moreover, if viewers spend money and effort to get to the theatre, they are more inclined to take the viewing seriously, and choose only what seems appealing to their specific tastes. Whence the huge advance publicity budgets for films these days. And in any case, they are stuck in a dark theatre for the duration of the film, and so cannot get distracted. Even very avant garde films, if they are good and are well publicised, can garner a respectable audience.

The TV audience is quite different, being composed largely of women of assorted ages. Very few men watch Hindi TV serials, because of the SBS pattern, but I had hoped that Mahakumbh would be able to pull in the young male audience. Apparently it has not yet been able to do so.

Then again, the ladies watch the prime time serial with one ear open for the whistle of the pressure cooker and with half their mind on the dinner ahead. They cannot be expected to watch a show with breathless attention even for 30 minutes. And apart from whether Mahakumbh, which is not mythological enough, like DKD Mahadev, to attract devout viewers, is to the taste of this audience, if a single episode in it is missed, too many details are lost. So the next time around, the ladies cannot make out many things and soon they quit and go on to the latest Ekta Kapoor offering.

I never expected Mahakumbh to do as well as DKDM, but I had hoped for better TRPs. Especially since the Star group seems to be publicising it quite well. But it was not to be so, which is disheartening. So the only thing to do is not to fret, but to enjoy a cracker of a show while it lasts.

Mahakumbh will not, I think, flag. Not like, Everest. so full of early promise, which had begun to go downhill long before now, and seems these days to be more about the personal problems of the team members than about getting to the summit or about spectacular shots of the climb.And the vital sarpech recovery angle is too ludicrous to be even laughed at! They seriously want the viewer to believe that at 29,029 feet, with snow and winds blowing all the time, a climber can locate and dig out a 12" square box buried at the summit 3 months ago!😡

At least, that is what I plan to do with Mahakumbh, for I am pretty sure that whatever the TRPs, the producers or the channel will not pull out the show halfway.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: MaddyO

I just wish it was different though. Surely if Hindi & other language movies are making vastly different than "typical" films and they are becoming successful - why can't the same happen on tv? Surely the audience should be similar.

How long the sazish sbs sagas will go on? Unless serials like MK bring in big TRPs - other PH will be happy with their sbs's!
There are rare ones who take the risk like MK here and 2612 or Yudh, EHT or 24.

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@Maddy MK is intense. TRPs are always for shows which dish out the same set of stories in different format. You don't need half a brain to understand them.
But MK makes you think. It gives a shock treatment to some of your thought processes. It sends out poignanat messages and for a show like this you need mature audience who are willing to experiment. MK is promoted in SP , Star Sports and Channel V. Considering it in Life OK I feel it is doing pretty good though it needs to get much more.
But our TV has to go a long way before that can happen. But anyday I thankful to a EHT, Everest or MK that comes occasionally than the never ending unrealistic SBS

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sashashyam

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Posted: 10 years ago

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My dear Arshi,

I loved your take on this one - the parts @blue are especially good - more than the episode itself, about which, as you can see from my response to her post, I am mostly on the same page as Santhi.

But your enthusiasm for this episode is so infectious that I found myself wanting to tone down my irritation with Daadi and Rudra, and not compare this Sangam scene with the other one with Maimuyi. With her, I loved both the character and the actress. Here, it is only the latter.

You know, no matter what the circumstances, no loving mother would treat a son lost for 24 years the way Daadi receives Shivanand. It is unfeeling and cold - she does not go beyond a proforma Theek ho? before she starts hauling him over the coals for his supposed acts of commission and omission - and it pulls down the whole character.

And as for Rudra wanting to preserve what he has, after listening to his father a little earlier, how can he think that this is possible if they take to imitating ostriches? And what of his loud threats of the day before, has he forgotten all of them, like Aamir in Ghajini? It almost looked as if it was the writer who had had short term amnesia about the previous episode

Well, let us see what happens next. I am sure the DM knew Daadi and Daada when he was a boy, and he must have been from Allahabad before he joined the IAS and was assigned to his home state, UP. He cannot be much more than 40.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Arshics
what can I say about today's episode?
Each week, we get atleast one episode that is an example of excellence

And that is usually on Mondays

And I say to myself, it can't get better than this!

But every Monday as if, Babbal JI sends a message

...itni jaldi impress ho gayi... Last week toh kuch nahi tha...

Abhi toh shuruat hai excellence ki...
Today's episode was beyond words, I am so overwhelmed!
It was philosophical, it dealt with some very fundamental questions

And as dadi said, it heralded the breaking of dawn - abhyudaya
Nanu, for all his evil is a learned man, and has complete faith in the ancient gyan and Vidya and his explanation to Grerson, About ancient Indian system of learning - through Smriti ( memory) and Shruti ( listening ) was so wonderful
It is way of learning where knowledge resides in legends, stories, folk lore, where gyan is like river running through time, and put down such knowledge in books is like capturing the flow of a river in pages.

Such gyan requires a guru, and cannot be obtained by mere reading of books!

If this whole discourse by nanu wasn't impressive enough, the scene moved to the conversation between dadi shiva and Rudra

And then we were witness to a debate on another vital question. The question of what is Swarth,and paramarth - selfishness versus salvation, and how one can be mistaken for the other. It also delved into fight for personal revenge versus fight for greater good.

What shiva considers paramarth, dadi considers his swarth - because dadi sees it from a smaller view point - Shivas perseverance will once again put her kutumb ( family, clan ) into danger, hence to her it's his selfishness

Shiva, who knows that this game is much bigger and it's not about revenge - revenge is just a feeling, the enemies are not these, and war is about soemthing far bigger!

For Rudra, it's all about preserving what little they have, to save his own is more important than destroying the enemy... His desire to preserve his loved ones is becoming bigger than his quest for revenge - he too has a limited view and so chooses to side with his dadi...

And while I was still grappling with these profound questions, we had that beautiful beautiful beautiful conversation between dadi and pota... Dadi who hasn't been able to comprehend her son's larger vision and vishal budhdhi, could compeletly read her grand sons Chota sa dil and udaas eyes.

And again we heard the wonderful old lady talk about what is the real meaning of a home, and how it's ok to be nirash( disappointed ) but not hataash( defeated ).

As the wise old woman soothed her grandson, by the side of Ganga, compeletly at home, dawn broke and she proclaimed - abhi tak hamara ast ho raha tha, ab Uday hoga ( till now we were like the setting sun, now it's time for sunrise - our stars are poised to rise ,...)

Also impactful was the simple trick played be tiwari ji to explain how we are polluting Ganga - a simple yet very very impactful, tad a little dramatic way of winning over all sides !

And to win the religious gurus, Tiwari ji spoke their langauge and used their aastha in Ganga Maiyya to sensitize them to the ill treatment being done to Ganga Maiyya !

His Joy at seeing dadi was so spontaneous and he called her dadi too - kya Kahani hai? Yeh Sawaal Kal ke liye...

And the one scene that I have left for the last - the shortest scene of the day probably,

but for me it was also the most telling - the scene between Maya and balivesh -

she has changed and how, by physically tying her in ropes, he has freed her of all bondages - her

smile, her words - what was that smile - a mixture of scorn for him, a sense of liberation,

the smile of woman who has no fear, for whom death will be a welcome relief!
It was not a simple episode. Nor was it easy to understand, it was the kind of episode where we will learn something new everytime we watch it.
It was a gagar main sagar episode, it was peep into our past, it was a step towards the future, it stood still, it moved forward, it looked within, it expanded outward ...

It was really really the best episode for me till now.

utkarsh - you really were yatha naam tatha gun - superlative - the writing was per excellent

The scene on the sand - brilliant camera work!

See this episode, savour it, reflect upon it, it has so much food for thought...

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Shymaladi I know it is not the right place to talk about Everest. But as a viewer watching it, it completely satisfied me. It was never about those summit. AG was very clear in his interview. It was a journey by each protoganist to conquer their personal Everest. And it has been done beautifully also. Summit is just a metaphor, actual is conquering your fears and finding yourself which all 3 of them have to do. Though dragging at times Everest never lost on the theme and in the end I am sure it is gonna deliver the right message also. Nothing is above love. Love is the means to life and love is the true transformational force. Not many shows can deliver such a message but yes you need some patience to watch it. it is just my view as I love it ( And I don't love anything which I cant connect to in the first place) but then as I always say perception differ and I just felt like putting it here.

Now Maddy coming to movie vs tv show. There was an article in the " The Week" couple of months back where off beat movies especially with leading ladies is doing good business. Queen, Mardaani, Mary kom, Kahani etc.. has been commercial success. In addition to that last year in Malayalam Cinema the biggest hit was done by a woman director " Bangalore Days" with a refreshing theme and take on new gen problems. So they were analyzing the small but significant change in the mainstream cinema. As Shymaladi said multiplex phenomenon has helped , but in addition to that woman are making choice now due to the financial freedom they have. They are no longer dependant on men to watch the movies, the working woman chooses herself what she wants to watch and need stories she can connect to which is def not SBS or arm candy heroine. So off beat movies with leading ladies in hatke roles are also having takers.

But coming to TV you need to understand that the woman who can keep aside her weekend to watch a hatke movie cannot do that on a daily basis. Me being a working woman I know how tough it is. I am able to watch MK because I had loved EHT so much that I had adjusted my work in such a way to watch it. So 8pm somehow is kind of ok for me now. But not for many. Also sometimes we are too tired to watch anything serious and switch to music channel or some comedy show to lighten up ourselves and then catch the show online. Most woman with hatke taste has a very tight schedule on weekdays trying to balance it out between work and family.

Unfortunately our TRP system does not account the repeat viewings, viewings online etc which we so often do. They only look at the people who watch it on TV.

So for hatke shows to succeed, TRP needs to be measured for repeated viewing, it needs to combine Indian and overseas viewing above all it needs to consider online viewing to understand the real picture.

Many hatke shows have huge online fans. I know when EHT was struggling to get TRP in India , it was a topper in UK, had a huge online following and the repeated telecast at 11:30 too had good viewership. But unfortuanely for it what counted was 8pm time only which was SBS time and didn't feel the audience was mature enough to understand a free willed determined woman Durga Thakur.

So just like multiplex and financial freedom for woman for movies, change of TRP measuring has to happen in TV world for some change to occur.

But don't be sad. It is much better than what it was couple of years back. Also channels like Life OK gives a chance to offbeat as they are not aiming for the top spot.

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