Mahakumbh 29-32: Of confrontations & revelations: Parts 1 & 2 - Page 5

Dear Aunty,

Originally posted by: adiana12

btw Shyamala, Sandhya, Kuba may be presented as the counter for Rudra by Naanu's Guru Maharaj

Originally posted by: sp108

Adi...is there any Pauranik Katha behind Snakes and Garuds being enemies?

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

Yup, Shreya...sorry for butting in...according to mytho, Kasyapa risi was father of Garuda and Vinata, his mother...the other wife of Kasyapa risi was Kadru, mother of serpents or nag.

There is a story of a wager over color of the horse of Indra...in which Vinata lost and she became a slave of Kadru, as decided upon in case of losing. Garuda requested his step mother to release Vinata, and Kadru asked for elixir or amrit from Devatas in return...Garuda defeated Devatas and got elixir with him, impressed Lord Vishnu made him his vahan...and Indra made a deal, such that the elixir be returned to Devatas...Garud, took the amrit to the nagas and freed his mother Vinata ... Garuda asked nagas to first purefy and cleanse themselves and covered the amrit pot with durva grass...when the snakes were gone, he let Indra, to take away the elixir...when the serpents returned, they licked the grass, thinking the amrit pot is beneath it...and thus, their bifid tongue cut due to sharp durva...thus, Garuda and snakes became arch rivals...and Garuda feed on snake but the latter also found a way out to counter Garud by swallowing stone and making themselves heavy...the war continues.

This is one of the stories, I've heard amongst many others.

yes sp108 misti is right. I also know about it. Garuda actually fools nagas. I mean among the Garuds in MK also there needs to be someone who can bluff these villians. I guess if Tapadiya Mai is Garuda she will be the one as she fits the bill perfectly.

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

yes sp108 misti is right. I also know about it. Garuda actually fools nagas. I mean among the Garuds in MK also there needs to be someone who can bluff these villians. I guess if Tapadiya Mai is Garuda she will be the one as she fits the bill perfectly.

Also we need to understand that nagas cant harm Rudra. As per mythology Rudra or Shiva wears the serpent as his neck ornament. In other words Rudra succeeds in taming the nagas.

But I guess in MK before the taming happens Rudra will have to drink the poison. Showing people with naga symbol is clear indication of poison coming Rudra's way. This is in sync with Samudra manthan story also.

Lovely analysis shyamala...MK has become interesting this week..What appeal most to me abt MK is that its a male dominated show like DKDM and leads are not fools..Intelligent writing by Utkarsh Sir...

Ela dear,

Thank you! I am glad that you liked this marathon!

You and I both like strong men! Yes, I agree about the strong male lead being a major plus point for Mahakumbh, instead of our being stuck with an Ekta Kapoor heroine who is always right and sports a 24 carat halo.

Thanks for the lovely picture. I saw this episode just yesterday. As I wrote to you some time ago, I am now watching DKDM retelecasts on Star Utsav, 1 hour daily 7 days a week, and though I missed the first few days, I caught up at the time of the Tulsi Vivah and Daksh giving Mahadev a shraap. I had missed all this during the original run, as I started only 9 months after DKDM began in Dec 20011.

I am enjoying this track tremendously, it is really a great piece of luck! You had advised me once to watch these episodes online, and look now I can see them in 50 inch glory!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: elasingh

A fascinating story, Mishti. I have read this in the context of how Garuda became the vahan of Lord Vishnu. There is literally no end to our treasure house of mythology, and almost every such tale has deep meanings and multiple interpretations.

Re: Vinata, this habit of making disastrous bets seems to be a staple of ours! At least Yudhishtira could not refuse the game of dyuth, as it was a tradition for Kshatriyas, but I wonder why Vinata landed herself in this horrendous mess! Do you know it?

The garuda-naga conflict is a staple of our mythology, and it recurs in the Mahabharata, when the Pandavas go to Khandavaprasta. Only there the naga king Takshak features prominently and there are no 7 elite nagas, which are an Utkarsh special!

It is really clever of Utkarsh to have picked up the idea of 7 nagas to try and take on our 7 garuds, for it fits in very neatly with our pauranic lore. I am very glad he did not go in for some outlandish thing like remixed Dementors! These sapta nagas do not seem to be different one from the other, however, unlike the garuds, for they seem to be all in lock step making exactly the moves.

Incidentally, Rishi Kasyapa was also the husband of Aditi, a daughter of Prajapati Daksh, who was, as you would know, the father of Sati. Shiva's first wife. The 4 sites of the Kumbh - Prayag, Haridwar, Nasik and Ujjain - are those where parts of her burnt body, that Shiva, devastated by her atmadahan, was carrying across the world in his arms, fell to the earth. The Manikarnika Ghat in Varanasi, where Rudra and Maimuyi were living, is said to be the place where her earrings landed.

Aditi was the mother of all the Devas. His other wife Diti was the mother of all the Asuras. These Rishis seem to have really got around, with so many high powered wives!

And Adiana, while that is an intriguing idea, I somehow cannot believe that Kuba can be a force for bad. Let us see.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

Yup, Shreya...sorry for butting in...according to mytho, Kasyapa risi was father of Garuda and Vinata, his mother...the other wife of Kasyapa risi was Kadru, mother of serpents or nag.

There is a story of a wager over color of the horse of Indra...in which Vinata lost and she became a slave of Kadru, as decided upon in case of losing. Garuda requested his step mother to release Vinata, and Kadru asked for elixir or amrit from Devatas in return...Garuda defeated Devatas and got elixir with him, impressed Lord Vishnu made him his vahan...and Indra made a deal, such that the elixir be returned to Devatas...Garud, took the amrit to the nagas and freed his mother Vinata ... Garuda asked nagas to first purefy and cleanse themselves and covered the amrit pot with durva grass...when the snakes were gone, he let Indra, to take away the elixir...when the serpents returned, they licked the grass, thinking the amrit pot is beneath it...and thus, their bifid tongue cut due to sharp durva...thus, Garuda and snakes became arch rivals...and Garuda feed on snake but the latter also found a way out to counter Garud by swallowing stone and making themselves heavy...the war continues.

This is one of the stories, I've heard amongst many others.

Originally posted by: sp108

Adi...is there any Pauranik Katha behind Snakes and Garuds being enemies?

Originally posted by: adiana12

btw Shyamala, Sandhya, Kuba may be presented as the counter for Rudra by Naanu's Guru Maharaj

Dear Shreya,

Thank you so much, my dear, you are always suchva morale booster! There is of course no such thing as the perfect post - not that I am going to look such a gift horse in the mouth!😉 But the fact is that when I start a new one, I never know how it is going to turn out, and it is a relief if it ends up looking decent. This time, I had excellent material to work on, especially for Part 2.

Yes, Katharine is very confusing, and the only good thing is that since Utkarsh apparently said that he had the plot all worked out in advance, he cannot be making her up as he goes along!😉 And right now, there are too many candidates for the 3 remaining garuds.

No, the Amrit is not only for healing, it is really for eternal life, and that is how it has always been presented in our puranas. That would automatically mean that all human ailments would have to be healed by it as well.

But the point about the healing powers of the Saraswati Kund, which presumably did not make all the patients immortal😉, has to be explained. Presumably it is a matter of dosage - Greyerson, as you would remember, tells Balivesh that one kan, ie atom, or tiny particle, of the amrit was in the water of the Saraswati Kund. That is, a very small concentration, which must have been enough for healing, but nor for conferring immortality.

So there was probably a certain quantity of the amrit needed for ensuring immortality, which was why the Asuras, when Mohini was distributing it after the samudramanthan, were not at all sure they would get the required amounts. In the end, after Rahu's shenanigans were detected and punished, they did not get any, but their guru Shukracharya compensated them to some extent by acquiring the sanjeevani mantra to bring dead asuras back to life.

Yes, Shivanand is very impressive, but see, his mother is still far from pleased with him!

This week was 80% action and 20% emotions, and I missed the great confrontation scenes of the week before, but one cannot have that sort of thing every week, after all!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: sp108

Dear Aunty,

Another excellent analysis. Really amazed at how you make a perfect post each time. You are awesomeness personified Aunty...and I am not saying this to flatter you.

I liked all of Nanu's confrontations the best. Evil doesn't delight me, but the actor playing Nanu is a sheer delight to watch. You put it across very well about his heart.

This Katherine-Greyerson angle is sort of confusing, I feel that she might not be a Garud. I feel Rao's interest in Katherine is merely to trace her bosses. But Katherine seems to be playing along. She doesn't seem too disturbed about Charles' coming to give her phone and hugging her. But the data on her phone is no red-herring either. It traces her to Greyerson because of the call from his satellite phone.I find her behaviour very confusing and strange.

So the Amrit is a panacea. And dried up due to some mysterious reason. But replenishes every Mahakumbh. Longevity and good health and not immortality seem to be the virtue of the Amrit - me thinks. Why was Shivanand's family entrusted with the care of the waters of Saraswatikund? Is it because of the Garuds in the family? And maybe the waters dried up because the Garuds were no longer around.

I too liked the actor playing Shivanand. He is just brilliant. And you described him so well. His character feels like he IS Daadi's son.

And the current week promises many more surprises. Wonderful.

Take care , and heal well.

Thanks for the PM.