Mahabharat Retelecast Discussion Thread 2 - Page 124

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

I din't said why Draupadi was targeted , I know d reason .

I asked what if Subhadra was staked in place Draupadi.

Nodoubt Draupadi is great devotee of lord krishna . Anyhow krishna would had reacted d same way .

A wrong thing is wrong in every sense phir chahe vo kissi ke saath kyu na ho .

For his reason for saving Draupadi was not coz she was princess of Panchal .

Krishna and krishnaa were friends best friends soulmates. He always treated her as an equal. And she was very very important to him does nkt matter if you believe or not. He makes it very clear that she has always been a very important part of his life

And about krishna supporting pandavas only for drapaudi is concerned than if you remove panchali than pandavas were as guilty with whatever happened in dice game as kauravas there is no dharm on their part either. Pandavas only wanted a piece of land krishna being the man who delivered gita i expect that he would certainly not support a bunch of people just because they want a piece of land when it was there was dearest eldest who messed it up royally

Originally posted by: NoraSM

The quote I provided was from Mahabharata, not script of a Bollywood movie so I am aware that Mahabharata is not a Bollywood movie

Krishna and Draupadi being soulmates is your opinion, I am not arguing against it because opinions are not facts, you are entitled to your opinion, I am asking you to give citation where Draupadi is mentioned as Goddess Laxmi so I can consider this as a fact

Even Arjun is being called Krishna's soulmate, doesn't mean he was Goddess Laxmi, I am not saying anything against these beliefs

Krishna also makes it very clear that Arjun means the most to him, yet you say he would have left Pandavas

My wives, my kinsmen, my relatives, non amongst these is dearer to me than Arjuna. O Daruka, I shall not be able to cast my eyes, even for a single moment, on the earth bereft of Arjuna. I tell thee, the earth shall not be reft to Arjuna. Myself vanquishing them all with their steeds and elephants by putting forth my strength for the sake of Arjuna, I will slay them with Karna and Suyodhana

I am not arguing against anyone's opinion on any relationship, I just want to know about Draupadi being Goddess Laxmi

While not getting involved in the romantic pairing argument, Panchali is mentioned as Sri avatar twice in Mbh. Not just Sri, but an avatar.

CE, Book 1, Vaivahika Parva, 188

ill go from the world of gods to that of men. Salvation is difficult to

obtain there. Let the gods Dharma, Vayu, Maghavan

42 and the Ashvins beget us on our

mother.’ Having heard this, the wielder of the vajra once again spoke to the greatest of the

gods,43 ‘With my semen, I will create a man who can accomplish this task. He will be my son

and will be the fifth among these.’ In his good nature, the illustrious lord with the terrible

bow granted them the wishes they desired. He ordained that the woman, the most beautiful

in the worlds, who was none other than Shri44 herself, would be their wife in the world of

men. Thereafter, accompanied by them,45 he46 went to the god Narayana, who is beyond

measure. He47 approved of everything and thus it was that they were born on earth.

‘“Hari48 plucked two hairs from his body. One was white and the other was black. These

two hairs entered the wombs of two women from the Yadu lineage, Rohini and Devaki. One

of them49 became Baladeva and the second one that was black became Keshava. Those ones

who were like Shakra and were earlier confined in the mountain cavern are none other than

the valorous Pandavas, while the Pandava Savyasachi50 is a part of Shakra.

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https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m18/m18004.htm

He also beheld the princess of Pancala, decked in garlands of lotuses. Having attained to Heaven, she was sitting there, endued with a form possessed of solar splendour. King Yudhishthira suddenly wished to question her. Then the illustrious Indra, the chief of the gods, spoke to him, ‘This one is Sree herself. It was for your sake that she took birth, as the daughter of Drupada, among human beings, issuing not from any mother’s womb, O Yudhishthira, endued with agreeable perfume and capable of delighting the whole world. For your pleasure, she was created by the wielder of the trident. She was born in the race of Drupada and was enjoyed by you all. These five highly blessed Gandharvas endued with the effulgence of fire, and possessed of great energy, were, O king, the sons of Draupadi and yourself.

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That being said, I don't believe in avatars and reincarnations.

@Deepikagupta

Radha was a 14th century invention by Jayadeva who wrote Geeta Govindam. Forget Mahabharata, neither Harivamsha nor Bhagavatham mentions Radha. The closest there is to a Radha is probably the southern story of Nappinnai. She was a niece or such of Yashoda whom Krishna was married to in childhood.

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

And about krishna supporting pandavas only for drapaudi is concerned than if you remove panchali than pandavas were as guilty with whatever happened in dice game as kauravas there is no dharm on their part either. Pandavas only wanted a piece of land krishna being the man who delivered gita i expect that he would certainly not support a bunch of people just because they want a piece of land when it was there was dearest eldest who messed it up royally

No dear Sahdev was not at all ready for peace , that's why lord krishna asked him to tell which five places should be asked.

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

No dear Sahdev was not at all ready for peace , that's why lord krishna asked him to tell which five places should be asked.

I aware of that. It still does not counters my point of reason of whom and why krishna supported.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

@Deepikagupta

Radha was a 14th century invention by Jayadeva who wrote Geeta Govindam. Forget Mahabharata, neither Harivamsha nor Bhagavatham mentions Radha. The closest there is to a Radha is probably the southern story of Nappinnai. She was a niece or such of Yashoda whom Krishna was married to in childhood.

There is many theories for radha. I stay in north India , had visited birth place of lord krishna8ke gokul , vrindavan etc. Every place has story radha krishna .

Even some people believe radha don't exist only.

I believe both Draupadi and Rukmini were form of Goddess Lakshmi.Even Radha may be.

Nidhivan place in Vrindavan , it believe lord krishna comes every night there with radha & his Gopis to perform raas leela, neighbouring houses had heard notice of Payal but could not see anything

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In night entry to nidhivan is prohibited.

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

This was an amazing scene.. all the sons in background of their parents..

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBSUTwaiTNI/?igshid=pwompx833xcr

Never noticed this but I must say such minute details.